Classic & Vintage - Cinelli Saronni

can anyone tell me what the little three-holed plate is on the bottom of the chain stay in the second pic?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Cinelli-SARONNI-Columbus-SLX-tubing-Frame-Set-C-C-53-/110686132106?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c568578a

Looks like a repair to me. When I built my first frame, I tried to set the rear end width before it had cooled down and I rippled the non-chain side chainstay. I used a fork reinforcement tang to strengthen it up. Likely the same idea here to repair a crack.

PS: The bike is not a Cinelli, it only has a Cinelli bottom bracket shell.

nice looking frame but I haven't a clue. I can't imagine it is some sort of stiffner.

http://web.me.com/ugyved/GarageSaleImages/GarageSale_04010_1305047109.jpg

blow out patch

That's where they wire it into the box at Toys R Us, so no one steals it off the shelf.

Looks like a repair to me. When I built my first frame, I tried to set the rear end width before it had cooled down and I rippled the non-chain side chainstay. I used a fork reinforcement tang to strengthen it up. Likely the same idea here to repair a crack.

PS: The bike is not a Cinelli, it only has a Cinelli bottom bracket shell.
I agree, and since it has the "can opener" IC Cinelli BB shell, I wonder if it's an attempt to protect the stay from future damage...naaaah.
Probably a repair, but note the tang added to the top of the BB, maybe a guy with more tangs then he had places to braze them.
Another half-thought: I thought Saronni was associated with Colnago, and that Ernesto had an allergy to anything with a Cinelli brand on it. ;)

Could it just be a Saronni fork? In Italy, you see a lot of bikes from small frame-builders, who'd use pretty much whatever parts they or the customer wanted. A friend of mine has a beautiful frame built by a shop here in Rome called Brunetti, which uses the same columbus tubing as the Colnago Master and has Cinelli BB, lugs etc. Also, the lugs used look like the ones I always see on the old Olmos.

http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/Bicycles_Table/Italian_Bicycles/Olmo_Bicycles/Olmo_GrandPrix_Orange/OlmoOrange_LugSeatTube.jpg

Also: nice-looking frame. Good luck with the bidding.

The only thing "Cinelli" I see on this frame is the bottom bracket shell, and perhaps the brake bridge. The lugs look like Bocama "Professional" that were used on many different makes:

http://www.velobase.com/VeloImages/FrameParts/2D92B687-C343-4537-874B-9BB40A20E6CA.jpeg

My guess would be Saronni fork and something else. Here are some shots of my Colnago built Saronni. If the front drops are Saronni, so too should be the rears. Also, I would expect Saronni to appear on the tops of the seat stays.

I have little experience with the Saronni but I do like the one I have. I should let the frame set go to a new home as I will likely never get around to restoring it. But it does not take up much room in The Old Shed (http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/FREE_SITE_1/FREE_SITE_10_Old_Shed_1.htm)...

201465 201466

201467 201468

201469