Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - Anyone riding a Trek 1.1?
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05-14-11, 09:43 AM
I am training for a MS150 ride and I am thinking my mountain bike isn't going to cut it. There's s 2010 Trek 1.1 on closeout for $500 at my LBS. The weight limit is around 275....just about the same as me. Should I go for this? I don't want to do the used, craigslist way because I wouldn't know if the bikes are solid or not. I'd rather a new bike with a shop to support me. The 1.2 and 1.5 looks tempting as well but it easily gets up to 1K. To me that makes $500 sound like a steal. Will I be happy for these charity type rides and a few 20-30 mile weekend jaunts or should I pry the wallet open a bit for more?
05-14-11, 09:54 AM
I looked at all of them recently when I was buying, and like you I was used to my mountain bikes. I ended up riding about all of them all of the way up to a 2.1. The 2.1 was the best - but being a new rider, I could tell very little difference in the 105 components vs. the tiagra other than aesthetics (the 105 cables are under the bar tape). I will say there is a very noticeable difference in the sora vs. tiagra. Not that the sora didn't get the job done, the tiagra shifted more quick and accurrately, and the shifters behind the brake levers are just as easy to work in the drops or on the hoods. I debated a week or two over the two. I would have liked the 105's on the 2.1, however, that was at the top of my budget and I still needed pedals and shoes. I went with the 1.5 and broke down and got some good shoes. I am glad I made that choice.
Like other have said on here plenty of times - go with the most bike you can afford. You will never regret the upgrade when you are riding.
05-14-11, 10:59 AM
I don't have this bike, but the components are comparable to what came on my bike, the Shimano 2300 shifters and rear derailleur and a compact double crankset. These parts are durable enough and will offer decent performance for a novice rider. In other words, they will get the job done.
My biggest concern is that the bike's ride quality may lead a little to be desired. This model comes with an aluminum fork which isn't going to soak up the buzz and vibrations you get from the road like what a carbon fork will. You have to ask yourself how much are you going to get into road cycling. If you plan to ride the MS150 or longer charity rides every once in a blue moon and you limit yourself to more frequent shorter rides, you may not feel that the bike is too uncomfortable. I think if you get more into riding, you will maybe want a nicer bike, but maybe not. Compared to your mountain bike, this may just be the bee's knees.
I always recommend buying the most expensive bike you can afford. If you can truly afford a certain amount for a bike, it is much less likely you would regret not getting the bike with lesser components. I have bought a few bikes wishing I had spent a little more up front to avoid spending much more to upgrade an existing bike. Sometimes, you don't have the choice and have to buy the bike you can afford even if it isn't ideal.
I would look at the 1.2 or 1.5 and see if your LBS can cut you a deal on one of those. I'd say $700-750 would be a pretty good deal for the 1.2 which may be something to consider if you could get it for that price. This bike is going to have a carbon fork and a bit nicer components.
You may also want to look at different brands. Trek sells nice bikes, but there are others out there that offer more bang for the buck. I think you are paying a little bit for the name, though you seem to have found a pretty good deal.
05-14-11, 11:01 PM
The bike will be fine. I started out on a 1.2 which I purchased for about the same price. I bought a 2008 right when the 2009's came out in 2008. I ended up selling it last fall for $500 with an extra set of wheels after purchasing a Madone 5.2. The only problem you may have, and more than likely will, will be the wheels. The Alex rims are absolute junk that the bike comes with. If you aren't planning on racing, the bike is fine. Maybe try getting a wheel upgrade to something stronger. You can actually get a set of Velocity wheels pretty cheap that will dance circles around the stock wheels on that bike.
05-14-11, 11:10 PM
The only thing I do not like about the bike is the Sora Brifters. My bike had them, and I wound up getting a set of Ultegra shifters on ebay. I am much happier now.
The Sora brifters has brake for up and thumb for down toggles
The other brifters in the Shimano line have the same lever for up but the down is on the inside of the brake and is much easier to use.
05-14-11, 11:46 PM
So you dont get the lbs support but for probably 100 they will assemble a bikes directs bike for you. this mercier is only 599 and a superior option to the trek 1.1
boy scout 161
05-15-11, 03:34 PM
I have a 1.1 and have never regretted purchasing it. Like you, I had been riding a Mountain Bike (gravel grinding) and was asked to ride the cycling portion of a charity Triathlon event. I didn’t want to spend a lot of money on a Road Bike since that really wasn’t my thing. I got a good deal on a 1.1 and it was a logical choice. I have never really had any issues with the Shimano 2300 group, but my expectations where realistic. As far as buzz from the Al forks, I ride gravel 90% of the time so I am not a good judge, but it’s never been an issue for me.
I would like to share with you that the switch to a Road Bike was really fun. Fast and responsive is the best way to describe it. It was like going from an F150 pickup to a Mustang. As a result of this, I ended up buying a Specialized Tricross Sport for my gravel adventures.
05-15-11, 04:16 PM
My Father In Law rode a trek 1000 (older model very similar to the 1.1) for several years. He was a big guy and put thousands and thousands of kms on that bike for years.
If your LBS has a 1.1 that fits you, and you like dealing with that LBS, then get that bike. You won't regret it.
As for the slightly lower level components on the 1.1 than on other options, don't worry about it. Even lower end shimano parts can be made to work very well when new.. the difference between low end and high end is that the higher end stuff takes longer to wear out and is easier to keep tuned for a few years, while low end stuff takes more fiddling and adjustment over time. But they work very much the same.
05-15-11, 06:54 PM
Thanks for all the great advice. I'm still playing out all options in my mind 1.1, 1.2, 1.5. I am focusing on Trek because my LBS has been really good helping me maintain the old mtb and I'd like to stay loyal. I was wondering about the components. Obviously the price goes up and they get better, but does that mean they also get more delicate? Would I be more likely to grind, smash, or otherwise misuse the components because I am a newbie? Also, no one mentioned my weight concerns. I guess 265ish is acceptable?
05-15-11, 07:03 PM
I don't think weight will be an issue, I have a 2.1 and was 298 lbs when I got it. Put a little over 2,000 miles on it so far and no issues at all. I believe the frame is similar to the 1.1
I think you'll enjoy the feel of a road bike.
boy scout 161
05-15-11, 07:31 PM
My LBS told me he's put 300lbs riders on this frame w/o issues. At 250lbs I haven't had any issues with the wheels. But I am careful regarding potholes and such.
05-15-11, 08:20 PM
consider replacing the fork with a $100 nashbar carbon fork if you find it to be a bit uncomfortable. otherwise, definately consider the bikes direct route got my gf a Dawes lightning DLX from bikesdirect for $399. It had a few parts i replace immediately like the adjustable stem that weighed a ton and looked like crap. I also had a nicer crank kicking around so i put that on but just the barebones bike was quite nice for the price.
05-16-11, 05:25 AM
If a 1.5 is something you are looking at, then I would recommend trying to see if they have last years model for about $1000. It comes with 105 components, and my dad who is a big guy, rides that bike hard, stock, and hasn't had a problem. As the price goes up the components not only get better but much stronger. The components on the 1.1 and 1.2 are good, but the bottom brackets are fairly junk.
05-16-11, 12:00 PM
I have been riding the 1000 for 3 years. It does have some road buzz but I put on a B17 and double wrapped the bar tape. It has been okay with that, but I do have a bad back and am now facing shoulder surgery so the road buzz is a concern. I just ordered a new bike, but the 1000 has been a really good value IMO.
05-18-11, 09:40 PM
right now nashbar.com has their flat bar roadbike on sale for $399 and free shipping. it would probably be about 7-8 lbs lighter than your mtb and it has a carbon fork. it's essentially an entry level road bike with flat bars instead of drops. you could easily upgrade it to drops if you so desired as it comes with a 9spd drive train. most entry level flat bar road bikes come with 7 or 8 speed drive trains so upgrading them typically is more of a chore. the free shipping is only for today and tomorrow but you should really take a serious look at this. you can pay your LBS to assemble and still be under $500 and have a nicer bike than the 1.1 in my opinion. http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_511753_-1_202650_10000_202339
05-18-11, 10:17 PM
... and have a nicer bike than the 1.1 in my opinion.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
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