Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Who uses Miche track hubs?

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A3rd.Zero
11-11-04, 11:41 AM
I was thinking of using these so that I can Locktite the adapter onto my Suzue Jr. hub and prevent against stripping.
Milo
shiftlessbast-
11-11-04, 12:43 PM
You mean Miche splined track cogs, not hubs, right? Using these on any hub would only be beneficial if you were planning on swapping out different sized cogs on a regular basis and wanted to avoid threading/unthreading them onto the hub. As far as preventing stripping, the rotational forces you apply through braking/skidding will still be transferred through the adapter to the hub, so you won't be avoiding a problem there. Loc-tite and a tite lockring will help prevent slippage.
Nobody has conclusively stated why the Suzue Basic hubs tend to have a high failure rate; it could be soft metal or shallow-cut threads. Or boneheads who don't set them up properly (finger pointing directly at myself).
ink1373
11-11-04, 12:52 PM
maybe this is a good time to check in on the status of IRO hubs...has anyone had a failure with an IRO rear hub yet? (so far, i'm happy with mine, but not looking forward to any situations where i have to use my palm as a brake...hope i have gloves on that day)
A3rd.Zero
11-11-04, 01:00 PM
Yes I meant the cogs. And for the ability to JB weld or Locktite it on so that the small slippage that causes thread stripping would be avoided. If the threads on any device are stripped off it is because of slipping forces, otherwise they would be stripped when you tightened them down. There is a book called "Screw to win" all about threaded devices used in auto racing applications. Its major claim is that once a device is tightened down and the threads have not failed they will not fail unless the device slips and greater force is applied to the threads.
In other news, I have spun my cog (because I didn't tighten it down enough) twice on my IRO hubs and once i wrenched the cog and lockring into place I have had no problems. I have put about 300 miles on them so far.
Milo
<edit> With the IRO hubs I don't use brakes, but I don't lay down long skids either. I skip, but I imagine less then most.
A3rd.Zero
12-09-04, 08:35 AM
*Update*
Got the Miche cog in the mail yesterday. Its really really nice, there is absolutely no play whatsoever on the adapter. Its really tightly machined, now I buy the "don't use standard ISO cogs on the adapter" statement. The threaded area is nice and large, really excited to get it on the wheel and start riding it.
Regarding IRO hubs: I have heard of one guy strip his IRO hub, after he had spun it loose (he was using a lock-ring) three times. This may be more of a, didn't crank the lock-ring down hard enough problems than an IRO hub problem.
Milo
I've used Miche sprocket and carrier for a couple of years with no problems what so ever. They certainly seem to be well machined for the money
Cynikal
12-09-04, 11:04 AM
It has been my understanding that the issue with suzue hubs is from cogs that are too thin like the surly's. I've been using one for over a year with a DA cog with out issues, except for my mistake (not tightening the lockring down enough).
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