Mountain Biking - Poison Ivy

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toobusi
07-08-11, 07:29 AM
Ok, my last two times out, (Greenbelt, L.I., N.Y.) i came home with poison ivy on my shins and ankles.:( Yes, many areas the track is very narrow with thick vegetation.

Would love to hear other poison ivy stories and solutions.

Eric


scyclops
07-08-11, 08:03 AM
Last year I got a dose of something - poison ivy/oak/sumac, one of those - anyway, bad. I'm used to chigger bites and such and usually just tough it out, but this was extra nasty. I woke up in the middle of the night ready to tear my skin off, and the kind of stuff that was handy (alcohol, calamine lotion, etc.) didn't even give momentary relief. So out of sheer desperation I grabbed a bottle of generic kitchen/bathroom cleaner - the kind with bleach in it (at this point I was ready to use a flame thrower if necessary) - sprayed some of that on and rubbed it in.... and slept like a baby for the rest of the night. I repeated this roughly once a day for the duration of the outbreak with minimal symptoms.
Ok, this is just my little story, I'm NOT recommending this as a remedy, but if you are unable or unwilling (read: too cheap) to go to the drugstore for the ~$30 stuff, well... YMMV.

twenty-fourer
07-08-11, 08:03 AM
A quick and easy solution is to keep your legs covered. That's about the best advice I can give. While you may still get some, it should greatly reduce the irritation.


scyclops
07-08-11, 08:17 AM
A quick and easy solution is to keep your legs covered.

That's true, but I can't imagine riding in 90+ degree heat in anything but shorts.

toobusi
07-08-11, 08:31 AM
Yeah, I've been thinking about wearing my lightest tights, what's worse 3 hours of heat or itching for two weeks. And will those thin tights really stop the P.I.

twenty-fourer
07-08-11, 08:33 AM
You get used to it. I used to skate in 100+ weather in jeans.
The heat and sweat was better than rashing up your legs. Sometimes, you have to deal with the lesser of two evils.
I think personally that I'd rather come prepared to keep myself hydrated to compensate for the additional sweating than to deal with poison ivy.

scyclops
07-08-11, 08:51 AM
...what's worse 3 hours of heat or itching for two weeks.

Fortunately for me, where I mostly ride, it's a fairly rare event. So my equation looks more like this: what's worse, 300 hours of heat or itching for two weeks.

johnMATX
07-08-11, 09:00 AM
I feel for people that get it, and a lot of places here in ATX where people ride have it. For some reason it has no effect on me.

toobusi
07-08-11, 09:06 AM
From what I understand, about 1/3rd of the population are not effected by the oils in Poison Ivy, oak or sumac.
But for those who are each exposure can become more severe than prior ones.
Lucky me.

ShimmerFade
07-08-11, 09:19 AM
I always use rubbing alcohol after I think I have come into contact with poison ivy. I liberally pour rubbing alcohol on the exposed areas rubbing it a bit with my hands to get the oils off, and then wash really well with soap and water afterwards.

twenty-fourer
07-08-11, 09:24 AM
I've tried that on my last case of poison ivy, and it just aggravated it.

zandoval
07-08-11, 09:29 AM
Long clothing is the best protection from Ivy and the sun - Remember that Baking Soda is an organic buffer - That is it will neutralize an acid or a base and also poison ivy and bull nettle toxins - Dry or wet...

I remember one of my young scouts on a hike telling another "Look..., just don't touch anything green"... Ha...

Crazydad
07-08-11, 09:51 AM
I hate poison ivy. I am so allergic that if I get some, nothing short of going to the doctor for a shot will work for me. The last 2 times I have had it, my arm and leg looked and oozed so bad I had to wrap them like a mummy. After every ride I make sure I don't scratch anything until I have made it home and showered really well because I am terrified of possibly spreading it if I got it.

ShimmerFade
07-08-11, 10:02 AM
I've tried that on my last case of poison ivy, and it just aggravated it.


LOL you have to do it ASAP after potential contact. You can't wait until the rash forms..by then the oil has already caused the reaction.

eddubal
07-08-11, 10:15 AM
I've said it before on BF and I'll say it again: "Tecnu (http://www.teclabsinc.com/store/poison-oak-ivy)" The label used to say that it can be used as a barrier during activity, but now just says to use it after exposure, but before the rash starts. I'm very allergic to poison ivy and the ilk, but this stuff has saved me. I used to have to take steroids because it would get so bad, but I haven't gotten a bad rash since I've started using it.

My dad volunteers for the National Park Service doing trail maintenance and building. They buy it by the gallon for the rangers and volunteers.

You can probably wash off at the trailhead. Take the Tecnu with a gallon of water, and wash your legs and ankles right there. Once you get back home or to camp, you can do a better cleaning job to make sure you got it all.

I think most drugstores sell the stuff. Hope it helps.

bones_mcbones
07-08-11, 10:53 AM
take a Reactin(allergy med) prior to riding. Works wonders. If you get poison ivy, take reactin everyday till it's gone. It suppresses the allergic response and thus makes the ivy ineffectual at itchiness.

crazyotte
07-08-11, 11:25 AM
Lace a joint with it. Increase your resistance.

cryptid01
07-08-11, 12:00 PM
Lace a joint with it. Increase your resistance.

Not sure about the efficacy of that method exactly, but for a couple years when I had regular PI exposure due to work, I used a product called Oral Ivy with great success. It's a homeopathic remedy - basically urishiol oil extract taken orally over time to build a tolerance. Think iocane powder. Anyway, it is super effective and I highly recommend it.

When symptoms of exposure have already appeared, I find relief through treatment with hot hot water (as hot as you can stand it). The heat releases histamines, which make you itch like crazy, but after a few minutes your stores of histamines are depleted and it'll buy you 4-6 hours of relief until they replenish.

Northwestrider
07-08-11, 12:01 PM
I've said it before on BF and I'll say it again: "Tecnu (http://www.teclabsinc.com/store/poison-oak-ivy)"I think most drugstores sell the stuff. Hope it helps.

Its worked for me as well, on the similar posion oak, I found mine at REI, drug stores may be a bit cheaper

phoebeisis
07-08-11, 12:26 PM
If you notice the signs of poison ivy first order of business it to use soap/water to remove any oil that is still there.
Wash the clothes- by themselves in a sink- very well also.
Best otc stuff is any topical steroid-slather it on.
Folks with really severe reactions can be treated with systemic corticosteroids.
They keep hoping it will get better so they put off going to their MD-it can takes weeks to get better without treatment.
Miserable weed!! Best bet-Bath and wash well after walking/riding in "weeds."

bones_mcbones
07-08-11, 12:29 PM
Lace a joint with it. Increase your resistance.

That will actually kill you.

sknhgy
07-08-11, 01:15 PM
Last year I got a dose of something - poison ivy/oak/sumac, one of those - anyway, bad. I'm used to chigger bites and such and usually just tough it out, but this was extra nasty. I woke up in the middle of the night ready to tear my skin off, and the kind of stuff that was handy (alcohol, calamine lotion, etc.) didn't even give momentary relief. So out of sheer desperation I grabbed a bottle of generic kitchen/bathroom cleaner - the kind with bleach in it (at this point I was ready to use a flame thrower if necessary) - sprayed some of that on and rubbed it in.... and slept like a baby for the rest of the night. I repeated this roughly once a day for the duration of the outbreak with minimal symptoms.
Ok, this is just my little story, I'm NOT recommending this as a remedy, but if you are unable or unwilling (read: too cheap) to go to the drugstore for the ~$30 stuff, well... YMMV.

I know they say not to, but I have put bleach on the rash and it takes the itch away right now. I don't know what the adverse affects could be but I don't remember having any. Not saying that I recommend this.

Best thing is learn - from a book - what it looks like and avoid it. I say learn from a book because there is a lot of mis-information out there about poison ivy.

crazyotte
07-08-11, 02:41 PM
That will actually kill you.

;) Indeed. I've had buddies unknowingly burn a bonfire with some of the stuff in it. The allergic ones were hospitalized approximately 3 weeks.

Milice
07-08-11, 02:52 PM
Pre ride when your standing in the parking lot I use a product called Ivy Block Lotion. Its good for 4 to 5 hours of protection. When I get back to my truck I do a parking lot wipe down, baby wipes are your friend and there is a 5 gallon army jerry can of water also in the truck bed.

When you get home head right for the shower and scrub down. I use a hand made lye and beeswax soapn that is really good at taking care of it.

YamiRider1316
07-08-11, 05:20 PM
Some of the trails around here you have to ride through a literal tunnel of poison oak. During the summer months its really bad due to the leaves oozing oil. Ive found that if I apply a decent layer of sunscreen and then just make sure i take a cold shower immediately after riding it will usually prevent any type of reaction to it. I don't know if its the oil in the sunscreen acting as a buffer layer or what but i have yet to get poison oak this year and i am very very allergic. Also ive heard that from some other local riders that they will apply technu before a ride and then shower with it after words.

rothenfield1
07-08-11, 10:55 PM
Technu is standard treatment for the real stuff on the West Coast, Poison Oak. Should be good enough for that sissy poison ivy you have back East.:D

sscyco
07-09-11, 07:21 AM
Think iocane powder. Anyway, it is super effective and I highly recommend it.



That's inconceivable!

twenty-fourer
07-09-11, 09:43 AM
Technu is standard treatment for the real stuff on the West Coast, Poison Oak. Should be good enough for that sissy poison ivy you have back East.:D

Try living in Texas. We have both.
Also, everything is poisonous.

On second thought, everything in southern California is deadly, too.

Bikernator
07-09-11, 09:53 AM
I've get poison ivy very easily and violently. I've tried and heard about several things that are supposed to work great. Here's what I know.

Pre-rash:

Tecnu has worked on and off for me, though I've never thought about bringing some and washing down at the truck with a spare gallon (or so) of water. I will now be doing this.

The standard initial step is shower absolutely as soon as possible and no scratching until you do, for ovbious reasons.

The last time I got a shot from a doctor I asked her not to give me any bull**** and tell what the hell I can do to prevent it and she referred me to the Hypothecary Shoppe, which is an all-herbal all-natural semmingly hippie paradise with a bunch of potions to help various things. Frankly, I'm down to kick it with some hippies if the itching will go away (which puts another idea into my head, if you catch my drift...).

Post-rash:

Using the $30 cream is the only thing that I've done that legitimately helped anything at all (minus the steroid shot). It did not apear to get rid of it faster, but one application every morning and I could essentially forget about it for the rest of the day - which is like a godsend compared to how it usually affects me.

My dad puts egg-whites on it, and he says after it dries it helps a lot with the itching.

I've heard taking a cold shower, lathering up in lye soap and standing there for five minutes out of the shower, then rinsing off in the cold water again, gets rid of it. Couldn't find lye soap, so I don't know, but several different people have heard of this.

Bleach. I hear hardass old timers taking a wire brush to the poison ivy, pouring bleach on it, and all is gone. I tried this (though I just rubbed with a rough cloth to open up the rash, not a wire brush) and got nothing but scabbed over poison ivy. This also came from multiple, unrelated sources.

That's about all I know about Satan's flower. But of course, not coming in contact with it is the best way, but understandably not always doable.

ibis_ti
07-09-11, 10:41 AM
You could also try Ivy Block for the ride, but definitely tecnu and a good wash right immediately after the ride. You can't really tell you've been exposed until it's too late(rash starts)

jboyd
07-09-11, 04:09 PM
I took my bike for a ride today. Notice I did not say I rode my bike today.

I drove to a local single track park, unloaded and headed in. Go to the edge of the first set of rollers and was greeted with a sea of poison ivy and sumac.:twitchy:

Screw it, I loaded the bike up and went and had a beer instead (no reason to waste a good day:thumb:

The last couple of years I have started having terrible reactions. Could roll in it as a kid, not anymore. I probably spent $200 the last three years on Zanfel.

Malemute_Kid
07-09-11, 08:46 PM
I am getting itchy just reading about this!

fuji86
07-10-11, 12:08 AM
advices ? poison ivy, etc., just don't ride thru it.

twenty-fourer
07-10-11, 12:27 AM
Boom. Problem solved.

sknhgy
07-10-11, 08:01 AM
When I used bleach in the rash, I just dabbed it on gently and sparingly.

meaculpa
07-13-11, 08:46 PM
I started wiping mud on my shins and arms where Poison Ivy will show up - and all too often. Also spread mud on my shoes. It doesn't need to be a lot, just so when I wash the mud off at the watering hole/dog-swim area (or my water bottle), the oils wash away with the mud.
Having said that, whenever I forget to do this, my girlfriend gets mysterious itchy 'bug bites' on her arms & legs...& I just act like we gots a mosquito problem.

ed
08-04-11, 08:21 AM
Think iocane powder.

:lol: I never read this until today!!! Inconceivable!

-_RebelRidin'_-
08-04-11, 11:12 AM
My cousin gets poison ivy BAD, to the point he has to go to the hospital. What we do to help is take chlorox bleach and a scrub brush. Scrub it in under warm water and try to make it bleed, helps run the oil out and dry it up.

Water neutralizes poison ivy oils, as soon as you realize you got the oil on you, wash down with cold water.

After you get the rash, something I heard and tried with a bit of success was:
Soak the body part in warm-hot water. Hot water helps release histamines, which is a trigger for inflammation and itching. It will itch like a B**ch while in the water. If you go long enough, you can actually deplete the histamine reserves in the cells in that area, should give you 4-8 hours of relief.

catmandew52
08-04-11, 11:21 AM
Think Mil Surp BDU's. They are lightweight. They tie off at your ankles, or blouse if you wear real boots. They are usually cheaper than dedicated attire, and think BIG POCKETS!

dminor
08-04-11, 01:35 PM
I never read this until today!!! Inconceivable!Leave it to gastro to again send me scrambling to google and IMDB to decipher his references :lol:

ed
08-04-11, 03:49 PM
You must watch the whole thing, D.