Professional Cycling For the Fans - Floyd Landis Interview

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/news/Graham_Bensinger_InDepth/25954415

I hope he does well in NASCAR. I'd get a kick out of that.

He does a real good job explaining how/why you can still be a fan of cycling despite all the doping going on. That's exactly how I feel and he puts it into words better than I ever have.

If you haven't seen Floyd's latest interview, definitely check it out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/news/Graham_Bensinger_InDepth/25952996#news/Graham_Bensinger_InDepth/25952996

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/752094-Floyd-Landis-Interview

I don't know why they let you shamelessly pimp that POS website all the time.

Immediate ban of the OP!

Why does anyone listen to Floyd Landis any more?

Why does anyone listen to Floyd Landis any more?

Because he knows more about this stuff than you do.

Why does anyone listen to a doper any more?

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Which pro cyclist should we listen to?

So I guess Landis and Armstrong don't exchange Christmas cards anymore . . .

Because he knows more about this stuff than you do.

Just because he is an expert doper does not mean he is telling the truth about anyone else.

Just because he is an expert doper does not mean he is telling the truth about anyone else.

The expert dopers are the ones who don't get caught.

So I guess Landis and Armstrong don't exchange Christmas cards anymore . . .

Well, they do, but they always have the local PD's bomb squad disarm them.

after watching this interview, I'm more inclined than i was yesterday to believe he's telling what he thinks is true.

Whether Landis is telling the truth or not. I could care less. He took public donations for his defense knowing he was guilty.

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Why does anyone listen to Floyd Landis any more?

Because he was an insider that knew just about as much than anybody. Because he has more balls than Lance ever had. Because, in spite of his long time dishonesty he still has more integrity than Lance. And he is far more interesting than Lance who can do nothing but smoothly bull**** everyone.

Lance's way of BSing doesn't seem all that smooth to me

The expert dopers are the ones who don't get caught.

Do ya mean like Lance?

Do ya mean like Lance?

Not even. He seems to have left plenty of credible evidence. The experts would be found among those who we don't read about. Take Hincapie for example. You didn't hear much accusing him other than having been on LA's teams until he reportedly admitted it to the Feds.

How exactly can you still watch it even when there is doping? What's the difference 1 mph?

I got a lot more than that out of it anyway, very insightful not that he had a choice, thanks for posting.

because he has more balls than lance ever had.

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Doping is awesome. I'd do it if the products were cheap and readily available at my local pharmacy.

Doping is awesome. I'd do it if the products were cheap and readily available at my local pharmacy.

There's probably cheap way to get into blood doping. And you probably could get most of the stuff at your local pharmacy.

At this point in time, Floyd's best career move would be to change his surname to Kardashian. He'd be just as relevant. Sorry, I got burned by that a*****e a few years ago. If he said it was sunny out, I'd pack my wet weather riding gear.

Whether Landis is telling the truth or not. I could care less. He took public donations for his defense knowing he was guilty.

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Yeah, someday I'd love the chance to ask him about the donation I sent him. Preferably with a cricket bat at arm's reach.

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If nothing else, Floyd is one intelligent guy. Smart? Ahh.... but intelligent, yes.

Lance's way of BSing doesn't seem all that smooth to me

I understand and feel the same way. But that's because of a long history of knowledge and experience with Lance. In the early days nearly everyone has been taken in by Lance and the Lance machine.

You guys need to understand doping in professional cycling and other professional sports is not a decision, it is a requirement. There are likely guys that chose not to dope, and you have never heard of them, because to win you have to dope. Just like in baseball everyone knew it was happening, and no one talked about it. Then one day someone decided it was bad. Now old timers like Lance, Jan, Ivan are getting called out for playing within the "unwritten" rules that were changed.

Do you really expect Lance to come out and say "I did PEDs? He has a multi-million dollar empire based on his reputation. He knows he did it, and all the others know to, but as long as he can keep a doubt out there he will, and I don't blame him. Floyd is bitter because he got busted, and now has nothing to really fall back on. Unfair maybe, but such is life.

What would you do? You can ride the Tour, or find a job? Of course if you want to ride the tour doping is required. Really what would you do? Would you give up professional cycling? Really?

Heck there are desk jockeys at my gym on roids just to look better.

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I think for anyone with good moral character (i.e., knows the difference between right and wrong, truth and lie), it is a bitter pill to swallow (pun intended). Pandora's box has been opened, and too many top officials at UCI are implicated and they cannot close the box. There would need to be a complete purging of the ranks and it would gut the sport's reputation for at least a year and huge fortunes would be lost. Anyone with any common sense realizes that this scenario will never happen.

It was a great interview in any case. It opened my eyes a bit.

It is better for blind Americans to feel outrage and pretend that anyone who doesn't test positive is racing clean, including Lance, and those who get caught are intent on bringing down all of the "clean" cyclists. LOL.

It was a great interview in any case. It opened my eyes a bit.

Getting the blood bag delivered in public in front of everyone was *great*!:lol:

Whatever else he may be, Floyd Landis has a ton of heart. When he lost all that time in 2006, he didn't blame his team, he didn't make any excuses, he just said he had a bad day and the next day he put in one of the most courageous attacks in Tour history.

"then there going to come back with, would you jump of a bridge"? "That's just ****ing dumb." ha.

Whether Landis is telling the truth or not. I could care less. He took public donations for his defense knowing he was guilty.

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+1 I quit listening to that db a long time ago. People can't sugar coat his character by saying he's somehow admirable in some other area. He's a liar, a cheat and an admitted doper. His 15 seconds expired years ago.

So now it's being said that Lanids lied (http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/news/lim-says-hes-clean-in-wake-of-usada-findings-tried-to-thwart-landis-doping_261680) ("blew things up") when he "came clean."


Allen Lim says that Landis’ accusations against him were false and that he has testified under oath to that effect...

though a bulk of Landis’ original memo on doping to authorities has proven true, Lim, a Boulder-based exercise physiologist says this account is inaccurate. In an e-mail, Lim told VeloNews that Landis named him because the former U.S. Postal rider had an axe to grind and knew that Lim was aware of his doping in 2005...

“I believe that Floyd made the accusations he did about me in 2010 because he knew that I knew what he had done in ’05. I also figured, but don’t know, that he was mad at me for working for Lance and that he resented my attempts to thwart his doping,” Lim wrote.

It's not Halloween yet, you shouldn't resurrect threads from the dead

well if there's one cycling zombie that just won't die, it's floyd.