Mountain Biking - What is the highest cost custom new 2004 mountain bicycle ever made in the USA

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bluetriforce
11-15-04, 08:26 PM
What is the highest cost of a new custom 2004 mountain bicycle ever to be made in the U.S.A.


arboc!
11-15-04, 08:31 PM
$7500000000000000000000000000000000

Maelstrom
11-15-04, 08:46 PM
That would be hard to calculate. But it could easily break 10,000 with the price of say a nicolai frame, super montser and or that dorado. Those two alone would make around 7000$ american without wheels or drivetrain. Tack on A set of deemax a around 1000$


arboc!
11-15-04, 09:07 PM
word on the streets is building cost on hondas rn 01 is near $75000 us

Maelstrom
11-15-04, 09:09 PM
Doesn't count. non-Publicly availble bikes shouldn't count.

arboc!
11-15-04, 09:12 PM
yeah besides the fender alone is rumored do cost 1000 bucks in manufacturing.

arboc!
11-15-04, 10:13 PM
i know its not the most expensive, but hairy gary bikes in my town sell a hardtail frame for 1500 u.s.

blue_neon
11-15-04, 10:14 PM
What is the point in buying a bike that is like over $10 000?

Maelstrom
11-15-04, 10:29 PM
That nicolai will only require maintanence for the next 6 ot 7 years under the most abuse the best freeriders can dish out...thats under 2000$ a year for that time period. with a bike that won't break and that can under HUGE hucks amongst other things. Most freeriders doing big big drops replace their bike1 to 2 times a year, maybe more depending on the rider

Also nicolai offers full warranty no matter what the usage. And specifically names racing as something that can be warrantied. THAT is unheard of in this industry

Funkychicken
11-15-04, 11:39 PM
wow - never thought buying a 10k frame could ever be justified, but hey that says it all.

ever since its been mentioned up top, i've been looking around the net for info on the rn01 - with nothing really specific, anyone hear of updates since this was last discussed in may?

cryogenic
11-16-04, 12:42 AM
I know that a fully equipped Seven Duo-Lux can get around $8000 US. That's no small change and it's readily available at bike shops... My LBS carries Seven cycles and basically you tell them what you want, they send the order to Seven and Seven builds it to your custom specs. I'm sure there are fully assembled bikes that are more expensive, but $8000 is still a ton of money in my book.

Raiyn
11-16-04, 12:50 AM
One hundred Billion Dollars
http://img10.exs.cx/img10/1905/Drevil-pinky1.jpg
It even comes with a "laser"

cryogenic
11-16-04, 01:42 AM
I want one! But failing that, I'll take one of those Sevens I mentioned before. :)

swifferman
11-16-04, 04:29 PM
One hundred Billion Dollars
http://img10.exs.cx/img10/1905/Drevil-pinky1.jpg
It even comes with a "laser"


OMG TEH OFF TOPICS!!!

kekekekekeke

arboc!
11-16-04, 04:32 PM
no aolese please it just makes people stupider.

Maelstrom
11-16-04, 04:46 PM
ummm stupider is not a word or any combination of words...sarcasm i hope

mtnbiker66
11-16-04, 06:16 PM
If you ever spend time in WNC you'll find that stupider and other words stupider than that are in the hillbilly language. :D

cryptid01
11-16-04, 06:20 PM
"That's unpossible!"

FoX Rider
11-16-04, 06:21 PM
If you ever spend time in WNC you'll find that stupider and other words stupider than that are in the hillbilly language. :D

One time driving thru Tennesee (for 15 minutes to get to NC) I saw a sign for "Free Dirt" As if all dirt isn't free and a place that sold Missles.

FoX Rider
11-16-04, 06:26 PM
Break this and i'll PAY you.

http://www.freewebs.com/jeffc19/nicolai.JPG

mtnbiker66
11-16-04, 06:28 PM
YeeeHaaa, welcome to my world. I have 2 goats,1pig,and a coon dog named Ellymay. Jed Clampet ain't got nuthin' on me.Well, he does have a lot of money, how stupider of me. :D

cryptid01
11-16-04, 06:28 PM
Break this and i'll PAY you.



Bench press it and I'll pay *you*. :D

mtnbiker66
11-16-04, 06:33 PM
[QUOTE=FoX Rider]Break this and i'll PAY you.
What is that? looks brutal.

FoX Rider
11-16-04, 06:35 PM
The Nicolai Mael was talking about.

FoX Rider
11-16-04, 06:54 PM
The Honda Prototype bike pics:

http://www.mountainbike.org.mx/2004/downhill/8-queretaro/minnaar.JPG

http://www.esmtb.com/galeria/7091.jpg

trekkie820
11-16-04, 06:56 PM
I feel like this thread falls under the catagory of WHO GIVES A CRAP!!

FoX Rider
11-16-04, 06:57 PM
I feel like this thread falls under the catagory of WHO GIVES A CRAP!!

It's actually interesting to me.

mtnbiker66
11-16-04, 07:39 PM
I feel like this thread falls under the catagory of WHO GIVES A CRAP!!
Then reply to another thread

issues034
11-16-04, 07:49 PM
HOLY S*** THAT THING IS GNARLEY IT LOOKS LIKE A DIRTBIKE :eek: , I've only seen a little pic that showed the crank and thats pretty much it. When that thing come out Im gonna buy it... if I had the money.

issues034
11-16-04, 07:50 PM
Im with FOX this is a very interseting thread.

blue_neon
11-16-04, 10:13 PM
I feel like this thread falls under the catagory of WHO GIVES A CRAP!!

If you dont like it dont post in it. I hate people who post for the sake of posting. That yellow honda bike dropped my jaw open. WTF that is soo cool!

arboc!
11-16-04, 10:20 PM
to bad youll never get your hands on one... i would want one to and for all the people who say its an unfare advantage they just wish they could ride for team g-cross. look at minnars standings before the bike... he still dominated.

Dannihilator
11-16-04, 10:25 PM
Actually if the reports that I have heard on ridemonkey are true, the Honda DH bike will be for sale in 2005.

arboc!
11-16-04, 10:31 PM
are they going to strip it down, to lessen the price, or will they sell it as is with the $1000 front fender.

Funkychicken
11-16-04, 11:40 PM
alright, in the last couple of days, my eyes have been opened about 4 things:
1. Honda RN01
2. Nicolai
3. that they exist
4. wtf is with their drivetrain?

i suppose the question is directed about the 4th item - whilst i dont think anyone yet knows much about the honda internal cam/gear system, what about the nicolai frames? on the website some of the fully built frames seem to show some kind of internal mechanism as well? maybe a rohloff hub but on the cranks?

Hopper
11-17-04, 12:36 AM
Mozt likely its another version of a gearbox, there are some called Pete something Gearboxes, basically it's a derailleur in a bx, seriously. Know the Honda one is a form of CVT (think that's what it is) it's like an auto transmission on a car, but redesigned quite a bit to be smaller and lighter and be ran with a shifter. They do however have them set up to have infinite gears, So if Minaar used a friction shifter, he could ultimately have infinite gears. However due to NORBA and UCI rules he must use a shifter, amazingly he uses a 7spd shifter.

As yes the RN01 is meant to be coming out to the public, but I heard somewhere that it would be using a more traditiona 7spd gearbox, similar to that on the Nicolai.

FWIW a very similar gearbox to that of the RN01 can be found on some electric scooters.

Maelstrom
11-17-04, 12:15 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27948&item=7114025686&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

rasheed
11-17-04, 01:27 PM
firstly, didn't the guy who originally post the question ask about bikes made in the states? if so, if i'm not mistaken, nicolais are made in germany and the hondas in japan... aren't they?




4. wtf is with their drivetrain?

i suppose the question is directed about the 4th item - whilst i dont think anyone yet knows much about the honda internal cam/gear system, what about the nicolai frames? on the website some of the fully built frames seem to show some kind of internal mechanism as well? maybe a rohloff hub but on the cranks?
not exactly sure what the honda uses, but nicolai's been using g-boxx technology on their frames (http://www.g-boxx.org)
evil bikes based in boston are also developing it along with nicolai. they released a prototype of their evil imperial frame that incorporates the g-boxx tech... pretty dope stuff.

FoX Rider
11-17-04, 02:42 PM
firstly, didn't the guy who originally post the question ask about bikes made in the states? if so, if i'm not mistaken, nicolais are made in germany and the hondas in japan... aren't they?

You are correct. I posted those pictures only because some members showed an interest in those bike, said they had never seen A pic. So I helped them out. After all thats what this forum is for. Helping out mountain bikers correct?

Maelstrom
11-17-04, 02:48 PM
And I was the first that brought it up. I guess for me. There are not many american made companies worth mentioning. And the ones I like, have most stuff done in other parts of the world.

FoX Rider
11-17-04, 02:52 PM
The most expensive american made bike that I can think of is probably one of the BMW bikes.

Maelstrom
11-17-04, 02:53 PM
Or maybe hood :) Or Karpiel...

SuBHuMaN12356
11-17-04, 02:55 PM
I feel like this thread falls under the catagory of WHO GIVES A CRAP!!

comming from a trekkie... i think ill ignore that :)


That honda bike is fricking ugly... i dont like it, it looks like it wieghs about 90 lbs

Maelstrom
11-17-04, 02:56 PM
Ummm do you actually know anything about the bike?...it isn't anywhere NEAR that heavy. In fact I remember numbers being one of the lightest dh bikes

DjRider04
11-17-04, 03:08 PM
Hoods expensive, but not too bad if I remember right......Karpiels outta business for good. BMW is up there at around $3500 or $3700 for a frame.....no idea though.

SuBHuMaN12356
11-17-04, 03:12 PM
Ummm do you actually know anything about the bike?...it isn't anywhere NEAR that heavy. In fact I remember numbers being one of the lightest dh bikes


Notice how i said IT LOOKS LIKE IT WIEGHS 90lbs... that doesnt mean i think it does... if they spent 75k to make it, then i think its common sence to think that it wieghs pretty damn light... I am aloud to voice my opinion.

mtnbiker66
11-17-04, 03:14 PM
A friend of mine raced NORBA and some WC in Canada. He was telling me about the Honda. Said that thing Minaar rides is sick. Anyone have an idea on cost?

FoX Rider
11-17-04, 03:14 PM
Notice how i said IT LOOKS LIKE IT WIEGHS 90lbs... that doesnt mean i think it does... if they spent 75k to make it, then i think its common sence to think that it wieghs pretty damn light... I am aloud to voice my opinion.

75k seems like a lot to use but its just pocket change to Honda. Not that it has much relevance to this topic. Just thought I'd mention it.

Maelstrom
11-17-04, 03:19 PM
Notice how i said IT LOOKS LIKE IT WIEGHS 90lbs... that doesnt mean i think it does... if they spent 75k to make it, then i think its common sence to think that it wieghs pretty damn light... I am aloud to voice my opinion.

Fine, opinions are your right, but research them a bit. I assumed you were saying it did weight, my mistake for misreading. For reference. 40pounds.

Its allowed...you are allowed to voice your opinion aloud.

Maelstrom
11-17-04, 03:21 PM
Hoods expensive, but not too bad if I remember right......Karpiels outta business for good. BMW is up there at around $3500 or $3700 for a frame.....no idea though.

But in its day, karpiel was dang expensive. I just assume hood was, I really don't know anything about the company itself, I am not a fan of steel duallies.