Classic & Vintage - Regina Extra 5 speed freewheel

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DirtyHarry714
09-01-11, 07:56 PM
Discovered i had a Regina Extra cassette on a Weinman rim i got off an Austro Daimler AD-SL bike i purchased yesterday. I've looked at other Regina Extras online but they are more like a compact cassette compared to mine. There is holes punched all around the last two gears, the gearing is 14-16-20-24-28. Is it worth using for myself or should i sell it? If anybody has info on this gear i'd love to know more, thanks.


bikemeister
09-01-11, 09:17 PM
5-speed freewheels are kind of rare these days. Mostly for older frames with the (now) obsolete 126mm rear spacing. If you can't use it, sell it to someone who needs a classic little hummer like that for their vintage steed.
The Regina freewheels were durable units. And, you can take them apart and clean/lube them. It's not easy, but I do it all the time. I never know when a repair's going to come to me through a referral and they need an inexpensive freewheel to get on the road again.

noglider
09-01-11, 09:26 PM
Actually, it was 120mm spacing in the 5-speed days! 126 was invented for 6-speed.


DirtyHarry714
09-01-11, 09:48 PM
Thanks guys! i'm going to use it on my Bottecchia cruiser project, should work out nice on my Radaelli rear wheel, You can take this sucker apart? Explain how?

noglider
09-01-11, 09:48 PM
First, explain why. I wouldn't recommend it unless absolutely necessary.

DirtyHarry714
09-01-11, 11:53 PM
Fosho it's not on my road bike so it's not that big of a deal

Sixty Fiver
09-02-11, 12:01 AM
If it is humming smoothly then just let it do it's thing... servicing freewheels is not for the faint of heart and if it isn't broken...

Running a little medium weight oil into the freewheel and letting it work it's way through will be good for it and quite often, this is all old freewheels need.

DirtyHarry714
09-02-11, 12:40 AM
It was a little locked up when i got it but i sprayed the penetrating oil in there and it worked like a charm.

pastorbobnlnh
09-02-11, 06:46 AM
Taking apart a freewheel can be an adventure. I serviced this Regina Corsa for Frank the Welder. One advantage is the ability to easily clean the cogs. If they have 40 years and tens of thousands of miles worth of road grime caking them, a disassembled freewheel makes for an easier job.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20Corsa/ReginaCorsa2.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20Corsa/ReginaCorsa4.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20Corsa/ReginaCorsa6.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20Corsa/ReginaCorsa7.jpg

noglider
09-02-11, 08:01 AM
Great pictures!

jimmuller
09-02-11, 08:17 AM
"Big Shrinking Pastor" knows what he's doing! (See FreewheelSpa.com (http://www.FreewheelSpa.com).)

pastorbobnlnh
09-02-11, 09:33 AM
Thanks for the plug! I wish I were shrinking a bit faster. Time to head back to Weight Watchers now that the daughter is safely off to college!

Speaking of pictures, here is another set from a Regina CX rehab.

Before:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20CX/ReginaCX7spdFW.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20CX/ReginaCX5.jpg

Cleaned:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20CX/ReginaCX14.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20CX/ReginaCX15.jpg

Assembled:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Parts/Free%20Wheels/Regina%20CX/ReginaCX17.jpg

Sixty Fiver
09-02-11, 09:58 AM
I love Regina freewheels... have a 7 on my road bike and have built up a few more for friends to use on their vintage bikes and what makes them so nice is the virtual silence of these freewheels.

Have a nearly complete Regina cog board here so building up new freewheels is pretty straight forward.

DirtyHarry714
09-02-11, 05:14 PM
I love Regina freewheels... have a 7 on my road bike and have built up a few more for friends to use on their vintage bikes and what makes them so nice is the virtual silence of these freewheels.

Have a nearly complete Regina cog board here so building up new freewheels is pretty straight forward.

Silence? mine is pretty loud compared to other cassettes i've had.

Sixty Fiver
09-02-11, 05:18 PM
Silence? mine is pretty loud compared to other cassettes i've had.

The quiet running of Regina freewheels is something they are known for... this is an NOS freewheel so it is not a function of wear but just how it came and other freewheels in similar new shape I have had are also very quiet.

DirtyHarry714
09-02-11, 06:09 PM
Why is the Demand for Regina freewheels so high?

noglider
09-02-11, 09:30 PM
I don't know! They were well made and had interesting technical designs, but I really like all the work Shimano has done to sprocket teeth to aid shifting. I don't want to go back.

Sixty Fiver
09-02-11, 11:01 PM
Over a closely spaced 7 speed the Regina shifts beautifully.

noglider
09-03-11, 06:05 AM
I take your word for it. If I come across one at a good price, I'll grab it and learn to appreciate it.

I worked in a shop that didn't have any documentation on how Reginas were designed, and he figured it out himself. It was impressive because it was somewhat complex. There were various different sprocket positions etc. But you could make a nice custom freewheel more easily with Regina than with any other brand.

norskagent
09-03-11, 06:16 AM
Why is the Demand for Regina freewheels so high?

I think italian threaded hubs are somewhat scarcer than english, and italian threaded regina freewheels are more common than other italian threaded freewheels? So if you have an italian hub you are limited to the regina sellers, and they know it. Plus their quality, history, "correctness", etc. would keep the price high I suppose.

VintageSprinter
09-03-11, 06:55 AM
Here is a pic of a dirty Regina Gransport Corse 5 speed freewheel.

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b dub
09-03-11, 07:08 AM
How does the 5-speed G.S. Corse compare to the Extra? I have one as well (NOS) and I have been wondering if I should use it for my Raleigh International or sell it.

repechage
09-03-11, 07:21 AM
I love Regina freewheels... have a 7 on my road bike and have built up a few more for friends to use on their vintage bikes and what makes them so nice is the virtual silence of these freewheels.

Have a nearly complete Regina cog board here so building up new freewheels is pretty straight forward.

I will have to double check deep in my boxes and ask you for the cost of a 25 or 26t cog. I bought a pair years ago from a guy and one has a cupped inner cog, not totally uncommon for these, but it's a 4 speed until I have a replacement.

repechage
09-03-11, 07:25 AM
How does the 5-speed G.S. Corse compare to the Extra? I have one as well (NOS) and I have been wondering if I should use it for my Raleigh International or sell it.

Way back G. S. Corsa freewheels were always considered better machined at the bearing surfaces than any of the other and all later models. Early ones still used the dark cogs, later they got the brass plated "oro" treatment. It is hard to pin down the start of the Oro era, '71 or '70 from the best of my referencing.

repechage
09-03-11, 07:29 AM
I take your word for it. If I come across one at a good price, I'll grab it and learn to appreciate it.

I worked in a shop that didn't have any documentation on how Reginas were designed, and he figured it out himself. It was impressive because it was somewhat complex. There were various different sprocket positions etc. But you could make a nice custom freewheel more easily with Regina than with any other brand.

And there are two different body type forms, the close ratio body where the largest cog only loaded from the spoke side and the regular body where the inside two cogs loaded onto the same threaded land.