Mountain Biking - Anyone runnin the NoTube wheels??

Been lookin at the Stans NoTube Arch 29er wheelset.Anyone runnin these wheels??You like um?Dislike..discuss..thanks:thumb:

Are you talking about the full ZTR wheelsets(with ZTR hubs)? Or just the rims?

Anyways....I've been very happy with the Stans ZTR rims - I've specifically owned Flows and Arches; currently own one set of Arch 29's and one set of Flow 29s, and used to own a set of Flow 26's. I have never had an issue with them. The rims are a little more finicky with spoke tension - in general they take a lower tension than an eyeletted rim, so find yourself a good wheel builder(if you don't build them yourself). I would highly recommend locally handbuilt wheels - we have plenty of good wheel builders in our state.

I like that the Stans rims set up easily with most NON-UST tires. If you want a true UST setup, the stans rims are not for you - they are specifically meant to be run with non-UST tires. I have never rolled a tire off a Stan's rim, but I also don't experiment with extremely low pressures.

Any specific questions?

Im looking at a whole wheelset hubs and all.Well my LBS is sponsered by American classics..so ya know he is going to push those.But he can get NoTubes too.He said the notubes are hard to keep true.

I don't find that to be the case. The only reason that would be the case, is if the wheelbuild was poor to begin with - if your shop has that problem, I would not have them build the wheels(with ZTR rims).

I've thrashed ZTR rims throughout our state(and several others). The only time I have really thrown one out of true was in Pisgah - sideways landing and it was my fault(that was a 29er Flow), but easy enough fix and hasn't needed any attention since.

Bontrager also makes super tough/durable rim. One of my favorite rims to build with because of the Offset Spoke Bed - this lends itself to a really strong rear wheel, because you can build the Non-drive side of the rim with higher spoke tension compared to rims without offset spoke bed. In my experience(if properly built), it leads to a wheel that really holds true over an extended period of time. I literally have not touched my Bontrager Mustang 29/King wheelset in a couple years.

Pretty similar experience to ncfisherman here....but not with Archs.
-I had a set of Flow's built (wagon wheel size) b/c I know with the terrain I prefer, Archs wouldn't survive long under me. They ran true till I pulled a digger last year & trashed the front. (I replaced it w/a Velocity P35, so far so good) Run tubeless sometimes, tubed when I've trashed a sidewall.

-My other ride sport Bonty Dusters. I prefer their TLR strips over the Stan's - easier to install & the strips last for a long time. I was afraid of how they would fare, but they're running true, even outlasting the frame they came attached to...it lasted me almost a year. Their OSB pattern does its job - stll haven't to touch them.

I run Flow 26" rims. Go with the Flow if you are > 200 lbs, otherwise the Arch should be fine. The weight difference is small and the Flows provide a wider 28mm profile.

No problem mounting any tire I own tubeless with just the "yellow tape" with a floor pump (Maxxis Crossmark, Ignitor, ADVantage... UST and Non-UST)

Stans is making a wider Arch I saw on bikerumor.com something called a Arch XT or EX it will be about the width of a flow but lighter as I understand.

Wheels may be one of the most important places to splurge. A good hand built wheelset will be stronger / lighter than your avg OEM setup. Noticeable in lateral rigidity. Noticeably quicker/snappier. I 'bout puked when I dropped 5bills on a wheelset...I've carried the same wheelset over from 3 builds now.

Thanks for the insight, ed. I was just trying to decide whether I wanted to fully build my new wheel-set myself or just lace it loosely and take it to the shop and have them finish it up since I'm a total newbie (built one wheel). I think I'll go ahead and pay up to have someone who knows what they're doing do it right. It'll probably be worth it.

my stans ZTR Race wheels are the cats ass and 1198 grams. Never trued them and I am 175 pounds. I dont huck or jump, I just hammer.

my stans ZTR Race wheels are the cats ass and 1198 grams. Never trued them and I am 175 pounds. I dont huck or jump, I just hammer.
This is true....