Classic & Vintage - Modern Classics

What is the sickest looking and riding steel, classic looking, lugged bicycle that is being made today? Could be custom or mass produced, cheap or expensive, modern edge threadless + CF fork or die hard quill-stem classic.

I'll start it off with the inevitable Colnago Master-X:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/adavis1212/DSC_0567.jpg

And Cinelli Supercorsa:
http://www.coopertechnica.com/_image/2000-Cinelli-Super-Corsa-Bicycle-default.jpg

Pegoretti comes to mind. Most of his bikes are unique pieces, but his site is worth a few visits.

Max if I wanted to do so where would I go to order that Cinelli? is Cinelli still building steel bikes? also is it just me or does something look odd about it?

As for goodlooking modern steel bikes.... the newest steel bike I have actually ridden is my '09 Motobecane Fantom Uno so I can't speak of ride quality. as for styling and classicness I'll say most any steel bike in the shop from the humble tigged (or whatever) trek 520 to the stalwart Bianchi Volpe to the Dolomite or the sexxy peacock colored Colnagos. I just love the classic lines of steel bike. the smooth lifeless (or should I say souless?) cookie cutter carbon bikes are nice to look at but they all seem to be the same.

People here are bound to complain about.the top tube slope,but I love my Hunqapillar (http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2010/12/elves-of-rivendell-are-delivering-for.html).
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KBapuNJORZ8/TVmZD7MfEXI/AAAAAAAABL4/keLB-fuMvPI/s320/IMG_0389.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JqWLpFf-rBY/TVmZMYQCDfI/AAAAAAAABMA/V54cUZzmpIQ/s320/IMG_0394.JPG
It's just an incredibly comfortable ride.

Marc

Mercian. http://www.merciancycles.co.uk/

Max if I wanted to do so where would I go to order that Cinelli? is Cinelli still building steel bikes? also is it just me or does something look odd about it?

http://www.cinelli-usa.com/framesets/supercorsa

Find a dealer, pay your $$$ :)

Max if I wanted to do so where would I go to order that Cinelli? is Cinelli still building steel bikes? also is it just me or does something look odd about it?


He doesn't have any in inventory at this time, Tom at GVH Bikes can certainly get one. In addition to the SC, Cinelli also has the Gazzetta and the XCR steel bikes although the XCR is tig welded.

Here is a partial list of Italian modern steel,

Ablocco
Basso
Bellesi
Bianchi
Carrera
Casati
Cinelli
Ciocc
Colnago
DeRosa
Guerciotti
Masciaghi
Masi
Moser
Olmo
Pegoretti
Scapin
Somec
Tommasini
Torelli
Viner

Yeah, for an across-the-product-line classic vintage look, nobody beats Rivendell.

Had I the cash to spend, I would look at a DeRosa Neoprimato in red, with an all-alloy Athena groupset. A supercorsa would be my next choice.

Sure to annoy someone, my Rivendell.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/077.jpg

I used to feel bad about not being able to get my hands on a Vanilla.

http://vanillabicycles.com/frames/randonee/2/lrg/4.jpg

Not so much anymore, as I'll get around to one eventually.

After riding a Kirk Terraplane two summers ago, I decided to start saving for one.

http://www.kirkframeworks.com/owners%20gallery%20photos/Stell1_400.jpg

I'll finally have the $$$ to place an order in the spring.

...and after NAHBS, another builder came on the radar for me.

Chris Bishop.

He had a silver touring bike that was my hands down favorite at the show, aside from a bike from Dave Kirk and a Signal.

Chris Bishop though, just has a special flair.

For example, I can't imagine a nicer looking track bike/Pista.

http://www.cycleexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/bishop-bikes-nahbs-track-1.jpg

So many other outstanding "classic" American builders like Chris Kvale, Curt Goodrich, Bruce Gordon, Roland Della Santa, Mike Zanconato, Martin Tweedy, etc.

The list seemingly goes on forever.

Modern classics?

I don't know, I just dig 'em!

Photos from their sites, but I wish they all were mine.

Sure to annoy someone, my Rivendell.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/077.jpg

I don't know why, as that's a nice looking bike.

Looks like a fine all-day rider.

Bet she rides great.

I think my Waterford RS-22 falls into that category.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/k4drd/Bicycles/Waterford%20B07014/953_RS-22_DriveSideFrontQuartersm.jpg

I think my Waterford RS-22 falls into that category.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/k4drd/Bicycles/Waterford%20B07014/CIMG6523med.jpg

Of course it does.

What an attractive bicycle!

Scooper's Waterford defines that category IMO.

I don't think the Cinelli or Colnago are classic at all and I honestly don't think either will be desired down the road. My reasons are:

1. Neither bike is tearing it up on the market and I don't think teenagers are dreaming about them. Classics are the bikes teenagers see, can't afford and remember the rest of their lives.

2. To me both of these bikes are stylish "retro" pieces aimed at the folks like us...guys who grew up in the 80s and dreamed of a Cinelli. They're really not much different than the re-release of Schwinn Krates - it's nostalgia, and nostalgia isn't classic to me.

I think the trend is that if people want steel, they want hand made customs or they want workman like function (Surly)...these are just recreations of what people wanted 20 years ago. I'd rather have the bike I wanted 20 years ago personally...it's cheaper and real. If I want new high end steel, I'm going to get it from Waterford, Kirk, Serotta...etc. If I want an everyday steel bike, I'm getting a Jamis, Surly, etc.

You can still get a frameset, custom or "off the peg", from Bob Jackson, of course.

http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/custom.php
http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/default.php?cPath=28

http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/images/Vigorelli_500.jpg

http://www.pelizzoliworld.com/products/corsa-gp/

Still built in Giovanni "Ciocc" Pelizzoli's shop in Curno, Italy.

Not steel but it is lugged. And on paper it's a very traditional build:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6158/6176706616_9ccf84ab3b_b.jpg

Not steel but it is lugged. And on paper it's a very traditional build:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6158/6176706616_9ccf84ab3b_b.jpg

...and gorgeous!

FWIW I couldn't care less if folks like Colnagos or not though.

I rode the tires off an Extreme Power this summer, and it is far and away the nicest racing bike I've ever ridden.

By far.

Hardly classic styling, but entirely wicked in its own right.

I don't know why, as that's a nice looking bike.

Looks like a fine all-day rider.

Bet she rides great.

Rivendell just grates on a lots folks, in this section of the forum. The bike does ride great IMHO ( I am biased). I find it very comfortable and am trying to get myself enough miles in to really do it justice.

Scooper's Waterford defines that category IMO.

I don't think the Cinelli or Colnago are classic at all and I honestly don't think either will be desired down the road. My reasons are:

1. Neither bike is tearing it up on the market and I don't think teenagers are dreaming about them. Classics are the bikes teenagers see, can't afford and remember the rest of their lives.

2. To me both of these bikes are stylish "retro" pieces aimed at the folks like us...guys who grew up in the 80s and dreamed of a Cinelli. They're really not much different than the re-release of Schwinn Krates - it's nostalgia, and nostalgia isn't classic to me.

I think the trend is that if people want steel, they want hand made customs or they want workman like function (Surly)...these are just recreations of what people wanted 20 years ago. I'd rather have the bike I wanted 20 years ago personally...it's cheaper and real. If I want new high end steel, I'm going to get it from Waterford, Kirk, Serotta...etc. If I want an everyday steel bike, I'm getting a Jamis, Surly, etc.

I can't say about Colnago, but I will stick my $0.02 about Cinelli. No, they don't have a huge market share in the US. But they are a pretty big hit with the hipsters. They are targeted with the RVCA, Mash and Gazzetta. Cinelli is a major sponsor of the CMWC and the ECMC. With this, Cinelli is targeting the early adopters, something that will give them the reputation as leaders and will keep their bikes desirable for some time.

Also, Cinelli is one of the first companies to use stainless. And while the die-hards here insist upon lugged construction, in reality, lugs only offer a different aesthetic, it is not "better". Instead of being a slave to the past, Cinelli looks to current trends and brings steel bikes forward with their XCR, whick I personally would consider a modern classic.

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac311/iabisdb/Bikes/XCR001.jpg

That Colnago is sweet
Good point about the XCR

From: http://ruedatropical.com/
http://ruedatropical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/front44051.jpg

-Kurt

Hetchins or Bob Jackson with Vibrant Stays tops my list but for the time being I'm enjoying a 2010 Raleigh Clubman ( Oh the horror!)

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I can't say about Colnago, but I will stick my $0.02 about Cinelli. No, they don't have a huge market share in the US. But they are a pretty big hit with the hipsters. They are targeted with the RVCA, Mash and Gazzetta. Cinelli is a major sponsor of the CMWC and the ECMC. With this, Cinelli is targeting the early adopters, something that will give them the reputation as leaders and will keep their bikes desirable for some time.

Also, Cinelli is one of the first companies to use stainless. And while the die-hards here insist upon lugged construction, in reality, lugs only offer a different aesthetic, it is not "better". Instead of being a slave to the past, Cinelli looks to current trends and brings steel bikes forward with their XCR, whick I personally would consider a modern classic.

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac311/iabisdb/Bikes/XCR001.jpg

IAB - I'm not talking about Cinelli's entire line, or Colango's. I'm talking about those two particular bikes.

He doesn't have any in inventory at this time, Tom at GVH Bikes can certainly get one.

That's where I got mine.

Rivendell just grates on a lots folks, in this section of the forum. The bike does ride great IMHO ( I am biased). I find it very comfortable and am trying to get myself enough miles in to really do it justice.

Having seen that Rivendell, I'd let that grate on my nerves any time...BEAUTIFUL bike and your build was inspired.

I like mine. Going on 3 years old, though:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/completed.jpg

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/drivetrain.jpg

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/ht-pc.jpg

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/bb-pc.jpg

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/do-pc.jpg

IAB - I'm not talking about Cinelli's entire line, or Colango's. I'm talking about those two particular bikes.

My bad. I think you're right, the SC is still around for nostalgia. But with a 55 year history, I think Cinelli will be able to make a buck off of it for a while.

A taste of the extravagant? Columbine Cycles

http://www.columbinecycle.com/images/photos/earth_to_sky.jpg

I like mine. Going on 3 years old, though:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/completed.jpg

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/drivetrain.jpg

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/ht-pc.jpg

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/bb-pc.jpg

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/fixed-frame/do-pc.jpg

that paint job is bomb...

expanding on my Pegoretti suggestion... this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Mor_YzOu23M/ThJlSVNxQ3I/AAAAAAAABvc/RJfPhxCMgvM/s1600/IMG_3940.JPG

[QUOTE=Italuminium;13272908]expanding on my Pegoretti suggestion... this.

...or this:

A Luigino SE

http://www.bikyle.com/images/Road2010/PegLuigBrown.jpg

Since this forum drools over Varsitys, Surly bikes will be a big hit in another 10-15 years. Same for Soma. And Torelli makes some nice steel frames. And Mondonico.

Tommassini has some very nice steel frames.

Not sure if you can get them in the U.S. but Basso has a nice lugged steel bike: http://www.bassobikes.com/en-Uk/viper-vintage.php

And don't forget all the builders that attend the NAHBS.

Like Ahearne
http://www.ahearnecycles.com/picture/profile%20picture?pictureId=7975053

http://2012.handmadebicycleshow.com/exhibitors/exhibitor-list/

http://2012.handmadebicycleshow.com/exhibitors/exhibitor-list/

This will keep me busy for the next hour or so.

So nobody has posted any inexpensive bikes...

Modern Classic or Retro Classic?

Modern:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ZhZegqmNnI/TjrwABz4ePI/AAAAAAAAGGk/4FaLs_nEaAc/s576/P1010839.JPG


More modern:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JNZziu_gFhw/TicSa3ZTpjI/AAAAAAAAF8Y/Nv1TOoYDq4k/s800/P1010735.JPG

Gomango,

A Luigino spotted in the wild, double fork frown:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SjRHGhW05sU/TGtIXaWwj6I/AAAAAAAADBU/9UeXzqgcWDo/s800/IMG_6417.JPG

Owner seemed like a nice guy, foreigner, from someplace northwest of MN.

Surly, Soma, Raliegh & Masi could all be had for around a 1K, rather inexpensive in comparison to the rest of the herd.

So nobody has posted any inexpensive bikes...

They are called "used bikes". ;)

Gomango,

A Luigino spotted in the wild, double fork frown:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SjRHGhW05sU/TGtIXaWwj6I/AAAAAAAADBU/9UeXzqgcWDo/s800/IMG_6417.JPG

Owner seemed like a nice guy, foreigner, from someplace northwest of MN.


Gorgeous.

If it's one of TMB's bikes, they are beyond my "mortal" means.

Man, he has some beauties. I miss seeing them on the forums.

I've only seen one of these in person, but that fork burned a hole in my brain.

Pretty, and so distinctive.

So classy.

Good taste in cars as well. :)

Are all Pegoretti's highly regarded? Reason I ask is that a shop near me has about 10 unbuilt frames for sale. Lots of other high-end carbon & steel as well. I thought that they were uncommon until I went there. None were lugged if that means anything.....

Here is a link to their current stock of Pegoretti.

http://www.bikyle.com/search_results.asp?txtsearchParamTxt=pego&txtsearchParamCat=ALL&btnSearch.x=7&btnSearch.y=11&txtsearchParamType=ALL&iLevel=1&txtsearchParamMan=ALL&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&txtFromSearch=fromSearch

Sure to annoy someone, my Rivendell.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/077.jpg

That is one gorgeous Hilson,what do you call that color?

Marc

Are all Pegoretti's highly regarded? Reason I ask is that a shop near me has about 10 unbuilt frames for sale. Lots of other high-end carbon & steel as well. I thought that they were uncommon until I went there. None were lugged if that means anything.....

Here is a link to their current stock of Pegoretti.

http://www.bikyle.com/search_results.asp?txtsearchParamTxt=pego&txtsearchParamCat=ALL&btnSearch.x=7&btnSearch.y=11&txtsearchParamType=ALL&iLevel=1&txtsearchParamMan=ALL&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&txtFromSearch=fromSearch

Well, they are to me.

I happen to "enjoy" his take on the modern bicycle.

Clearly, a Luigino would be an incredible bike to own.

I met Dario Pegoretti at NAHBS and he was so nice, it floored me.

I like what he has to offer a great deal, but I must admit, he is a little out of my price range for the next few years or so.

I don't see used Luiginos ever, so that is no option.

Yeah, the beefcake chainstays are radical!

On another note, does anyone know what the hell this bike is sitting on top of?


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SjRHGhW05sU/TGtIXaWwj6I/AAAAAAAADBU/9UeXzqgcWDo/s800/IMG_6417.JPG

Yeah, the beefcake chainstays are radical!

On another note, does anyone know what the hell this bike is sitting on top of?

Maybe a Yakima on an Audi A4 wagon?

I'm a fan of Folk Engineered bikes, hand made in Newark, NJ, a short bike ride away from me.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/5707311855_3bf46a0d95_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3619/5707866862_226cf5a129_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/5707208575_52ddaaa7f9_b.jpg

The rest of these pictures are at http://www.folkengineered.com/store/Stitched-Bike and http://www.flickr.com/photos/volcanicgiggles/sets/72157626690736360/

No, the frame isn't actually stitched. It's just made to look that way, but the handlebar wrap is stitched on.

Fender...bikyle has a relationship with him, or had one. That's a pricey shop.

expanding on my Pegoretti suggestion... this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Mor_YzOu23M/ThJlSVNxQ3I/AAAAAAAABvc/RJfPhxCMgvM/s1600/IMG_3940.JPG

you got more pics of this beast?

[QUOTE=Bianchigirll;13271730]Max if I wanted to do so where would I go to order that Cinelli? is Cinelli still building steel bikes? also is it just me or does something look odd about it?

Something does look odd about that cinelli... i think it's the very short stem that is also too high.
It just looks TOO big! sorry...!

That is one gorgeous Hilson,what do you call that color?

Marc

Thanks Marc! They call it "Grilver" (Grey & silver). The paint was a mistake but hey gave me a good discount. They offered to repaint it any color I wanted but after checking out you Hunq, I thought the color would work out, so I kept it. Glad I did!

you got more pics of this beast?

nope. googled it. the paint scheme is called Guantanamo and is available in white on black and vice versa.