Classic & Vintage - super vitus 980 peugeot

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adscft
11-13-11, 05:40 PM
which years and what models of peugeot are using this type of tubing? thanks


Roger M
11-13-11, 05:54 PM
I am not the expert on this, but I am pretty sure the first model year was 1982. I am not sure how long they ran with it. Here is my 83 PSV 10. It looks similar to the 82

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/72tunaboat/winter2010photos531.jpg

adscft
11-13-11, 06:08 PM
beautiful~~~

peugeot's models are too complicate, always confused.



I am not the expert on this, but I am pretty sure the first model year was 1982. I am not sure how long they ran with it. Here is my 83 PSV 10. It looks similar to the 82

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/72tunaboat/winter2010photos531.jpg


Roger M
11-13-11, 06:41 PM
Chombi and Scozim will most likely chime in here and give you some accurate info on these bikes. Mine has a couple of upgrades, and is my lightest bike(other than a Carbon Trek)

balindamood
11-13-11, 07:47 PM
About '82 to '87. PSN/PSV10. I think they may have done one other model before '85, but that is it.

20grit
11-13-11, 08:05 PM
The main triangle and fork of some of the triathlon models were 980 as well. The stays seem to be some mystery steel though.

scozim
11-13-11, 09:22 PM
Seems to me they started around 1982 and finished with the Triathlon and PSN10 with that tubing in 1987 or 1988. Super Vitus tubing is my favorite frame material to ride. My 983 equipped Gitane is respectably light, nimble and a great climber. If I had a 980 Peugeot in my size it would see a lot of miles every year.

mrrabbit
11-13-11, 10:39 PM
The best ones eye-candy-wise were the light silver-blue one's from the very early 80s. Know a family who's patriarch died owning one - never ridden - with mostly Stronglight parts. Was very light at the time for a steel bike.

=8-)

Chombi
11-14-11, 02:16 AM
I think the PSV first came to be with the 82 model, 84 was PSV's last year. The SV980 frame was carried on by the PSN (With Campagnolo Victory Gruppo) and Triathlon models till 87 and that was it for SV980 on Peugeot bikes,.....at least for the US market.

Chombi

miamijim
11-14-11, 04:46 AM
'N' is Peugeot speak for clincher tires

82-83 PSV10 with tubulars. Normal seat post pinch bolts. French/Swiss threading.

84 there were 2 models PSV10N with clinchers and PSV10L with tublars. Goofy behind the seat tube set screw for seat post. French/Swiss threading.

'85-'86 PSN10 and Triathlon clincher modesl with intenally binding seatposts. FULL Super Vitus tubing. BSA threading. Triathlon has 32rd set bottle bosses.

'87 PSN10 and Triathlon models. PSN10 Mont Cenis with full SV tubing, Triathlon with main tubes and fork SV. BSA threading. Triathlon may have conventional seatpost binder bolt. PSN10 has internally expanding post.

Nicolas Ehrhart
11-14-11, 05:30 AM
sound simple Vitus 972>1972,viyus 980>1980.......

20grit
11-14-11, 06:47 AM
sound simple Vitus 972>1972,viyus 980>1980.......

Vitus 181.

Wrench in the works?

scozim
11-14-11, 08:08 AM
'N' is Peugeot speak for tubular tires

82-83 PSV10 with tubulars. Normal seat post pinch bolts. French/Swiss threading.

84 there were 2 models PSV10N with clinchers and PSV10L with tublars. Goofy behind the seat tube set screw for seat post. French/Swiss threading.

'85-'86 PSN10 and Triathlon clincher modesl with intenally binding seatposts. FULL Super Vitus tubing. BSA threading. Triathlon has 32rd set bottle bosses.

'87 PSN10 and Triathlon models. PSN10 Mont Cenis with full SV tubing, Triathlon with main tubes and fork SV. BSA threading. Triathlon may have conventional seatpost binder bolt. PSN10 has internally expanding post.

The only difference to this list (at least in my shop) is the 84' PSV10 hanging on my wall which has an english threaded bb. I'm not sure about the headset. My brother switched out the bottom bracket on the '84 PSV I unfortunately gave him and it also had an english threaded bb.

miamijim
11-14-11, 10:53 AM
The only difference to this list (at least in my shop) is the 84' PSV10 hanging on my wall which has an english threaded bb. I'm not sure about the headset. My brother switched out the bottom bracket on the '84 PSV I unfortunately gave him and it also had an english threaded bb.

Thats certainly a possibility. Catalogs prior to '85 dont differentiate threading so it's members like yourself who provide additional information to fill the gaps!! Somrtimes its possible to fit British BB's into Swiss frames.

SvenMN
11-14-11, 01:52 PM
'85-'86 PSN10 and Triathlon clincher modesl with intenally binding seatposts. FULL Super Vitus tubing. BSA threading. Triathlon has 32rd set bottle bosses.

My 1986 example... tag says PSN10T60, I believe the only year for tulip red. Very comfortable for longer, easier rides. The ghost shifting can be a bit un-nerving when you get on it. I suppose some fine-tuning of the Sachs-Huret RD is in order.

Bryan

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/SvenMN/IMG_4815.jpg

Wino Ryder
11-14-11, 02:19 PM
My 1986 example... tag says PSN10T60, I believe the only year for tulip red. Very comfortable for longer, easier rides. The ghost shifting can be a bit un-nerving when you get on it. I suppose some fine-tuning of the Sachs-Huret RD is in order.

Bryan

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/SvenMN/IMG_4815.jpg



Thats a nice bike Bryan.

miamijim
11-15-11, 06:37 AM
My 1986 example... tag says PSN10T60]

PSN10T60 =

P = Peugeot
S= Super Vitus tubing
N= Clinchers
10 = racing series
T = either a color code for tulip red or suffix designation for Triathlon
60 = frame szie in CM

The serial number under the BB will tell year and month of frame production.

SvenMN
11-15-11, 11:33 AM
Thanks Jim.

OK, for the record and to further my education, at least on this bike... BB number appears to be:
B 601 72320
So possibly made in January, 1986
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/SvenMN/IMG_4907.jpg

Here is the usually lost paper tag:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/SvenMN/IMG_4910.jpg

And the SV980 label located just above the DT shifters:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/SvenMN/IMG_4911.jpg

dddd
11-15-11, 11:52 AM
I wonder what the suffix "E" was for?

I've had PX10's with that letter, and possibly my former PKN10(E?).

I've got a French custom Tipo Limongi (Guisseppe Limongi) that's made of the 980 tubing, it rides and handles very well but of course flexes noticeably more than a couple of 1990's OS steel frames I own.

miamijim
11-15-11, 01:22 PM
Thanks Jim.

OK, for the record and to further my education, at least on this bike... BB number appears to be:
B 601 72320
So possibly made in January, 1986

Here is the usually lost paper tag: 4788936

And the SV980 label located just above the DT shifters:


Yes, January of 1986 for the frame, 72320 would be the sequential number the frame. 478936 would be the sequential number or internal code for the model. Does your right pedal 'click' on the down stroke? I only ask becasue the fixed cup appears loose...but it could be an illusion.


I wonder what the suffix "E" was for?

I've had PX10's with that letter, and possibly my former PKN10(E?).

I've got a French custom Tipo Limongi (Guisseppe Limongi) that's made of the 980 tubing, it rides and handles very well but of course flexes noticeably more than a couple of 1990's OS steel frames I own.

As far as I've been able to determine 'E' means 'different than' I think it simply means different than the previous version as in a slight specification change.

RNDM
11-15-11, 01:24 PM
Wow, those bikes are so clean. Especially svenmn, so nice.

SvenMN
11-15-11, 02:00 PM
Does your right pedal 'click' on the down stroke? I only ask becasue the fixed cup appears loose...but it could be an illusion.

No click, fixed cup is tight... goofy camera angle trying to get stamped characters to show. Thanks for the info Jim.

And it not as clean as the pics seem to show RNDM. It was well used when I got it, and I keep on using it ;-)

illwafer
11-15-11, 03:58 PM
1985 Peugeot PSN-10 / Mont Cenis
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4436672688_13f64c47ae_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4435901247_af5b558145_b.jpg

Creme Brulee
11-15-11, 04:15 PM
i love these bikes. people here in san francisco treat them like huffys though :(

quantumnchaos
11-15-11, 04:21 PM
btw, how is super vitus 980 comparing reynold 531 or other materials in stiffness, riding quality if same geometry? their weight is roughly same, am i right?

Chombi
11-15-11, 04:31 PM
btw, how is super vitus 980 comparing reynold 531 or other materials in stiffness, riding quality if same geometry? their weight is roughly same, am i right?
IIRC, from circulating tubeset tables I've read through the years, the weight of the SV980 tubset is comaprable to what the Reynold 753 weighs in at. but maybe the special heat treatment of the 753 makes it stiffer. SV980 also features a rifled head or steerer tube (can't remember exactly which one.)
So you can maybe consider the SV980 as falling in between Reynolds 531 and 753.

Here's pics of my modded up 84 PSV for reference:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/BeckVFR/DSC02003.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/BeckVFR/DSC02004.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/BeckVFR/DSC02005.jpg

It's with me in SF currently,.....and no, it's never treated like a "Huffy"..........

Chombi

quantumnchaos
11-15-11, 04:43 PM
wow, beautiful.


IIRC, from circulating tubeset tables I've read through the years, the weight of the SV980 tubset is comaprable to what the Reynold 753 weighs in at. but maybe the special heat treatment of the 753 makes it stiffer. SV980 also features a rifled head or steerer tube (can't remember exactly which one.)
So you can maybe consider the SV980 as falling in between Reynolds 531 and 753.

Here's pics of my modded up 84 PSV for reference:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/BeckVFR/DSC02003.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/BeckVFR/DSC02004.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/BeckVFR/DSC02005.jpg

It's with me in SF currently,.....and no, it's never treated like a "Huffy"..........

Chombi

scozim
11-15-11, 07:16 PM
If we're sharing SV980 photos :)

Not the best backdrop - '84 PSV 60 cm, original drivetrain. My dad put a lot of miles on this. I had an identical 52 cm version.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m191/scozim/Bike%20stuff/IMGP0284.jpg

Too bad this is a SV980 thread or I'd post my SV983 bike.