Classic & Vintage - What brand is this nice repainted road bike?
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11-16-11, 04:20 PM
We received this donation. It's a tall man's road bike with Shimano 600 components. It has been repainted.The repainter removed the name, but the serial number stamped on the bottom of the head tube is 6FIxxxx or 6F1xxxx. I'm attaching a photo of the lug work hoping that might help. As usual thanks in advance for your help.
11-16-11, 04:37 PM
The lugs look similiar to a bianchi limited but it might be a different brand or model.
My guess would be a bianchi but other members will chime in.
What are the dropouts? Stamped with any name - Italian, Japanese, etc?
11-16-11, 06:39 PM
components look to be from around 1987, give or take a year.
11-16-11, 09:50 PM
that thing looks a whole lot like my 85 trek 310. made in taiwan by the merida company (according to vintage-trek website). mine doesn't have a mark on it, that i know of, except for the serial number on the bottom bracket.
short point lugs too. these were made c-c using inches not cm. take a look on the v-trek website. they've got catalogs. could be the 87 model. mine came with suntour, araya, SR components.
11-16-11, 09:55 PM
A UJB from that era, I'd say,... don't worry just, go ride it..
The frame is from 1986. The serial number format matchs Panasonic. The strange part is that the stays are chromed but the forks aren't, suggesting either that the forks are replacements or the chrome was badly pitted. Given the possibility of the former, I'd be looking closely for signs of ripples on the underside of the tubes, immediately behind the head lugs ande checking the alignment.
11-17-11, 10:40 AM
can we see some more/better pics? closeups of the cropouts? the headluggs, and the BB shell? is there a B on the head/downtube lug? any idea what the BB threading is?
11-17-11, 11:15 AM
Just by looking at it the first thing that popped in my head was Panasonic. The location and format of the serial number, pretty much confirms that it is a Panasonic, but as to which model, your guess is as good as mine.
01-29-12, 04:40 PM
Well, the only Panasonic that comes to mind with the rear chrome work like that was the '79 Touring Deluxe model. Problem is that the brake cable routing would be under the top tube if that were the case rather than on top like this frame plus the fork looks to be much newer as well. What does the cable routing look like on the BB shell?
01-30-12, 09:30 AM
Thanks to all for your replies. I think this might be a repainted 1986 Panasonic DX5000. The serial number format is Panasonic (begins with 6 for 1986), and the the lugwork is definitely panasonic. The chainring is Shimano 600 Biopace, as spec'd in the catalog. The only thing that doesn't fit is the chrome and color. I didn't find any likely panasonic with chrome on both seatstay and chainstay. When we pull this out of the stacks for refurbishing I'll get more detail photos and answer some of the questions above. Any other thoughts?
I found the catalog at a great panasonic site:
See bigger photos at:
Focus on the frame, and not the components. Components change, sometimes many, many times. I have a 1987 bike right now, I've owned it for two years, its on its FIFTH drivetrain since I bought it. Someone trying to ID based on components will come away with a migraine.
It could be a Panasonic built bike, rebranded to another company. At this point, with the graphics gone, and the original paint gone, its value will not be changed by identification. Its a nice bike, with a repaint. Around here, ready to ride, $200, $250 max come riding season in ready to ride condition. Someone wanting a DX5000 is going to want original paint, graphics and decals. So the market for this bike is someone looking for a nice rider.
Often, the fork steering tube will be marked with a simple date code and a tubing company. That would be another clue, again, IMHO, has no affect on value.
01-30-12, 11:27 AM
With the right decals, it can be any bike you want it to be.
02-01-12, 02:35 PM
First thanks to all who contributed. We're going to clean, tune and sell this bike to help pay our expenses (check our website), so our main purpose was to get some idea of what brand it is for advertising.
So, here's a few more pictures. The rear dropouts marked Tange TR. BB shell. Serial number, pedal and bar tape with pattern (might match original?), serial number. We know that components may have been switched but what we see is consistent with a repainted 1986 Panasonic. The Shimano derailleur is a RD-6208, introduced in 1986. We'll ask $200-$250 for it.
For max return, you might want to clean those pedals up and sell them separately, via ebay. 600 pedals go pretty well and won't influence the price of the bike.
02-01-12, 04:19 PM
A couple observations... the bottom bracket shell lugs and cable routing does indeed look like Panasonic's work. The rear drops being stamped Tange is not typical of what I see on other Panasonics however. Most simply say Panasonic although my Team Japan has Suntour Superbe drops. Another odd thing is the serial number. The weird thing is that the third digit appears to be slightly larger than the rest and the final digit appears to be set slightly lower. This isn't something I am used to seeing on other 'sonics as the typography seems to be pretty uniform and level on most.
The rear chrome? No idea what to make of that as it doesn't jive with anything Panasonic made in '86. My guess would be a Panasonic build for some other label... but who knows which it could be?
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