Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - What chain tool will work on a KMC Z710SL?

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JDMKidBill
12-02-11, 01:53 AM
Title says all. Also purchasing Park Tool SR-18 chain tool for my new 1/8" chain conversion, and white lightning.
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 06:27 AM
I always use my trusty little Rivoli (http://www.retro-gression.com/product/cyclo-rivoli-chain-tool) chain tool without any issues.
Stay away from wax lubes. Wet lube is much better.
Street rider
12-02-11, 06:57 AM
Thats the one I use too because I have a KMC 410H on my BMX bike. Works like a charm.
JDMKidBill
12-02-11, 07:43 AM
I always use my trusty little Rivoli (http://www.retro-gression.com/product/cyclo-rivoli-chain-tool) chain tool without any issues.
Stay away from wax lubes. Wet lube is much better.
I'm trying to get it from amazon because my friend is buying a 2 dollar guitar chord, and wants free shipping. So I'm picking up a prk tool sr-18. What model is the Rivoli? And what chain lube do you recommend?
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 07:48 AM
The Rivoli Universal 9-10SP chain tool is the way to go. As far as lube goes, my favorite is Finish Line Ceramic Wet.
AngryScientist
12-02-11, 07:58 AM
for a chain tool that you're going to leave in the shop, full size is the way to go. that Rivoli looks like a pretty good design, but the smaller ones simply are not as comfortable to use as the full sized ones you can use your whole hand to operate, as opposed to fingers.
if you need a tool that is more portable, by all means the smaller ones work perfectly fine, but a good shop tool cant be beat.
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 08:03 AM
I've used/own just about every chain tool in existence and the one that works best on the K710-SL chain is the Rivoli - which is specifically what the OP was asking about - and is actually the most reliable chain tool I have. At the shop or at home, it gets used the most and I've never broken one.
In my experience, full-size chain tools are overly cumbersome. You don't need a full hand grip to remove a chain pin.
JDMKidBill
12-02-11, 08:06 AM
The Rivoli Universal 9-10SP chain tool is the way to go. As far as lube goes, my favorite is Finish Line Ceramic Wet.
http://www.amazon.com/Cyclo-Rivoli-Universal-Chain-Speed/dp/B0012Q4FDO/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1322838303&sr=1-1
That?
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 08:09 AM
Yes. Or this:
http://www.amazon.com/Cyclo-Rivoli-Bicycle-Breaker-Universal/dp/B001CK0OS0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_1
AngryScientist
12-02-11, 08:09 AM
In my experience, full-size chain tools are overly cumbersome.
not my experience at all, but - you've probably operated on many more chains than i have, i guess we each have our preferences. in my opinion, this is the greatest chain tool in the free world.
http://www.excelsports.com/image/Campagnolo%20Chain%20Tool%2011%20Speed%20UT-CN300.jpg
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 08:12 AM
The Campy tool is nice but the oversized/oddly-shaped plates of the K710-SL won't fit inside it.
This and the fact that it costs 200 bucks makes me not need it.
AngryScientist
12-02-11, 08:14 AM
The Campy tool is nice but the oversized/oddly-shaped plates of the K710-SL won't fit inside it.
good to know. :beer:
ddeadserious
12-02-11, 08:18 AM
x2 on the Rivoli for that chain, as if the Mighty Scrod's opinion needed support. When I needed extra leverage, I just attached a set of vice grips to give me a good handle to hold. Only needed to do this once though.
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 08:18 AM
Yeah, it's a weird chain. It's like KMC should make a specific tool.
The Park CT-3 will work on it too but I've broken more pins on that thing than I can count when using it on the K710 or K710-SL.
I use a X-Tools chain tool and it works like a charm, and it's small too.
sungam123
12-02-11, 08:51 AM
Will that Rivoli work on a Shadow Conspiracy chain?
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 09:03 AM
It works on KMC half link chains so it should.
He is talking about Chainwhip tool Parktool SR-18 not chain break tool... anyway to the point: I use SR-18 and its pretty good to tighten your cogs
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 09:30 AM
He is talking about Chainwhip tool Parktool SR-18 not chain break tool... anyway to the point: I use SR-18 and its pretty good to tighten your cogs
Learn to read:
Will that Rivoli work on a Shadow Conspiracy chain?
learn to read the OP: "Also purchasing Park Tool SR-18 chain tool for my new 1/8" chain conversion, and white lightning."
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 10:31 AM
Learn to read the THREAD TITLE and the rest of the OP's posts regarding the chain tool.
Never once did he ask if that Park chainwhip would fit his cog.
Also, learn to use the 'Reply With Quote' button.
The Park CT-3 will work on it too but I've broken more pins on that thing than I can count when using it on the K710 or K710-SL.
Man. I'm going to buy the Rivoli from you later. My Park Tool one sucks! I broke about 3 pins, and the little screw on drive pin. I bought a new one for 6 (6!) bucks and it still wouldn't spin straight anymore. **** this. :notamused:
BigglyPuff
12-02-11, 11:51 AM
Wish I woulda known this before I got a Park CT3. I figure I won't be using it too often though, and some of the parts are replaceable right?
(Internet fights won by Scrod: 13893475, Internet fights won by opponents: -7)
Well thats the difference between one person owning a tool versus a Coop or a LBS where the tools are used all day long. My Parktool is lucky if I use it once a week. It will last me a long time!
(Internet fights won by Scrod: 13893475, Internet fights won by opponents: -7)
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I wish I heard of all these tools before I bought the more popular ones. Bah. Oh well.
hairnet
12-02-11, 12:01 PM
Scrod, did you buy your Rivoli retail or from a wholesaler? The shop is closed today so I can't see if QBP or other carries it.
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 12:54 PM
My Parktool is lucky if I use it once a week.
What a lucky tool indeed!
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 12:54 PM
Scrod, did you buy your Rivoli retail or from a wholesaler? The shop is closed today so I can't see if QBP or other carries it.
We get them wholesale.
hairnet
12-02-11, 01:04 PM
QBP? The co-op needs to replace all the Park chain tools because they're all broken.
Scrodzilla
12-02-11, 01:08 PM
No but QBP does carry them.
hairnet
12-02-11, 01:11 PM
thanks
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