Foo - Yelling at your boss.

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Anyone ever done that before?
I kind of feel bad for this guy, almost everyone at one time or another in the 3 years that he's been here has yelled at him at least once. He's kinda slow at picking up things and is kind of arrogant sometimes.
So this morning the director of engineering has me put together a design package of all the design options for this project we're doing. Anyway, the senior engineer, whom I work for, comes over and has me explain some crap to him about the design package.
Goes like this.
Guy: So how does this and this and this work.
Me: Explains it.
Guy: Right... so what does this do?
Me: Explains again.
Guy: So if we use this, what are the final specs?
Me: I can't really say cause that's what we're meeting on this afternoon.
Guy: Well why can't you tell me.
Me: Cause we haven't met on it yet, it won't be fair for me to make the decision without getting input from the other engineers.
Guy: How am I not fair to people?
Me: We can't just bypass everyone and I don't have time to sit here and explain these things over and over again.
Guy: You don't have time? You work for me, you make the time, you give everyone else time.
Me: That's cause I don't have to explain things to everyone else over and over again 4, 5 times.
Guy: You don't have to do that with me!
Me: Good. This conversation's over.
Director: Guys guys, calm down, don't kill him!
cycleprincess
12-08-04, 09:10 PM
Does he have pointy hair? Sounds like Dilbert's boss!
I had a similiar situation with someone, but he wasn't my boss. There was a situation I was working for this guy (who is a boss for another department). I emailed him twice on the status and "plan of attack." I also talked to him 2 times on the phone to let him know what was going on. Suddenly, he emails me to ask me what was going on. For the fifth time, I had to repeat to him what was going on. It wasn't that complicated. All I did was cut and paste what I sent him before. He replies, "Thanks for the explanation."
Hmmm, lets see. Yep, been there done that... :rolleyes:
Try explaining VPN to Phds, MDs, and CPAs. (Psychologists, Psychiatrists, and bean counters)
At least the CPA hooks on the cost savings and is pacified..LOL
It's like I'm living in Office Space.
alanbikehouston
12-08-04, 10:18 PM
I have yelled at two bosses in front of co-workers. Once when I was 18. And again at age 40. What I learned (eventually) was this: have your resume ready. You gonna need it.
clancy98
12-09-04, 09:05 AM
my boss is a bastard. the other day he told me one of the christmas print ads I designed looked "faggish"
Nice mullet, assh*le!
I have yelled at two bosses in front of co-workers. Once when I was 18. And again at age 40. What I learned (eventually) was this: have your resume ready. You gonna need it.
Cept this guy has almost no pull or authority in the company. Almost everyone who works under him either ignores him or bypasses him.
His inferiors yell at him, his superiors yell at him, people from other departments yell at him. Frankly, I'm starting to feel bad for yelling at him now. Arrogant and slow as he is, he must be pretty miserable working at a place where 90% of the people don't like him and 10% don't care.
my boss is a bastard. the other day he told me one of the christmas print ads I designed looked "faggish"
Nice mullet, assh*le!
Wasn't a family in cycling spandex decorating the tree was it? :)
LordOpie
12-09-04, 09:42 AM
I once fired a boss.
He was stealing, so i told him that if he didn't have his resignation on the owners desk by 5pm that i was gonna rat him out.
I once fired a boss.
He was stealing, so i told him that if he didn't have his resignation on the owners desk by 5pm that i was gonna rat him out.
Wow that was nice of you. I would've turned him over to the authorities.
hoodlum
12-09-04, 10:32 AM
I am one of the lucky ones. My boss is actually competent. I have had the dumb boss situation before, and it's no fun.
Most bosses are a joke.
Around here they simply delegate work and prance around making
phone calls. They tell other people if someone else has finished something.
They can barely operate their Email. They have higher bonuses.
"Got that done yet?" is not a skill.
Yeah, at my last boss. She had no idea how to run things, let alone be professional. She kind of stood around in her expensive pumps with her coach briefcase and chanel suits looking like a clueless idiot, then when we got the work done, she took the credit. Then if you tried to talk her out of her (always) stupid decisions that ALWAYS backfire later (which she would then blame us for), she would go medieval and lose it. So finally, I quit. Just cleaned up my office and walked out of the door that night and never looked back. It just made me laugh so much every time I replayed those messages from her asking where I was the next day after she read my "I quit cause you suck" letter I left on her desk.
Plus, she sucks at being my sister too. I can't stand being around her.
Koffee
Yeah, at my last boss. She had no idea how to run things, let alone be professional. She kind of stood around in her expensive pumps with her coach briefcase and chanel suits looking like a clueless idiot, then when we got the work done, she took the credit. Then if you tried to talk her out of her (always) stupid decisions that ALWAYS backfire later (which she would then blame us for), she would go medieval and lose it. So finally, I quit. Just cleaned up my office and walked out of the door that night and never looked back. It just made me laugh so much every time I replayed those messages from her asking where I was the next day after she read my "I quit cause you suck" letter I left on her desk.
Plus, she sucks at being my sister too. I can't stand being around her.
Koffee
Ouch....I can't wait for my "liberation day" from a 40 hour work week.
You're self employed now aren't you, Koffee? Must be nice :)
I once had a boss that micromanaged me to the extreme. I once threw a pencil at him... crumpled up paperwork in front of him... cut him off... walked away during conversations, etc.
Did I get fired? Nope, I now have his job :D and he's working for me as a consultant.
tspinning
12-09-04, 11:05 AM
ha koffee thats great! i had a boss yell at me once tho too, well more of a supervisor anyway she said something stupid about me not working hard enough and spending too much time on some internet forum....humm wonder what she ment
Man, my sister is a stupid heffa. She micromanaged so much it was like no one could breathe. Everyone was afraid of her... well, except me. I would call mom and dad on her if she was way out of control, and she hated dealing with our parents. But still, she was just a terrible manager who didn't have any business sense. Last I heard, the manager of her facility walked out on her in a fit. She finally quit. But she lied to the investors and told them she fired the manager. But they're all running around there like chickens with their heads cut off. I am laughing my butt off.
I am self employed. I'm poor, but at least I'm happy and I don't come home at night hating my job and myself for being part of something I hated so much. And I couldn't stand seeing her anymore anyway. My life is soooooooo much better poor and self employed than less poor and working for her. Bleah.
I haven't seen her in a year, but I hear she's not happy.
Koffee
ngateguy
12-09-04, 04:48 PM
Hmmm, lets see. Yep, been there done that... :rolleyes:
Try explaining VPN to Phds, MDs, and CPAs. (Psychologists, Psychiatrists, and bean counters)
..LOL
I must be something like explaining reality to sales or marketing :D
Allister
12-09-04, 05:27 PM
I sometimes feel left out since I have always had competent, intelligent and friendly bosses that largely leave me alone. I have no anecdotes. :(
pitboss
12-09-04, 05:56 PM
"faggish..."
Wasn't a family in cycling spandex decorating the tree was it? :)
guaranteed it was for Old Navy
revGonzo
12-09-04, 07:33 PM
I got written up for writing a sarcastic email. I was asking for a decision from my supervisor and when I didn't get any I said "I guess I will just do it the best I can and everyone will have to live with the consequences."
Lesson learned: Don't wine on company email.
clancy98
12-09-04, 07:40 PM
haha, old navy! actually, the problem was that it had to be holiday-oriented without being suggestive of any actual holidays (the PC way of life, of course) so it was plain, except it had snowflakes on it, ya know, to suggest the holiday. It was that or snow tires. He said "thats not in your nature, is it?" which I assume was a joke. I said dryly "no sir, I love the *****" then there was akward silence.
CLancy
What would you all do if you really liked working at one place except for one person that almost no one likes, that everyone knows is incompetent, and he's your superior?
haha, old navy! actually, the problem was that it had to be holiday-oriented without being suggestive of any actual holidays (the PC way of life, of course) so it was plain, except it had snowflakes on it, ya know, to suggest the holiday. It was that or snow tires. He said "thats not in your nature, is it?" which I assume was a joke. I said dryly "no sir, I love the *****" then there was akward silence.
CLancy
Man that's sad when everyone's afraid to show any holiday spirit for the sake of being PC.
at least he ain't some crank addict subway boss that fires ya for not buying copy paper (something the manager does).
you shoulda heard the yelling she got. i bloody well tore her head off. ended up callin' her a child... she was like 30 something... seemed to fit in a fractional sorta way.
tspinning
12-10-04, 07:38 AM
i always wonder about PC issues because, not that i really care, but my office (a bank) is fully decked in christmas stuff, the flowers, tree, wreaths, garland, its sick really, but what about the GASP! non-religious, or could there be another religion, no no course not my mistake! To make matters worse, i complained about this to my girlfriend and she replied with "christmas tress arent religious......" i nearly died...anyway where's the rest of the holiday representation??
i always wonder about PC issues because, not that i really care, but my office (a bank) is fully decked in christmas stuff, the flowers, tree, wreaths, garland, its sick really, but what about the GASP! non-religious, or could there be another religion, no no course not my mistake! To make matters worse, i complained about this to my girlfriend and she replied with "christmas tress arent religious......" i nearly died...anyway where's the rest of the holiday representation??
I'm non religious and christmas trees don't offend me ...LOL
aluckyfiji
12-10-04, 08:05 AM
i wish i could yell at my boss, but since i dont have my degree yet (still about 2.5yr left) i just cant say much
my boss tries to micromanage us from where ever he is (he travels about 20-25 days a month, all on grant money so thus your tax dollars) but since he is never in town he really has no clue what we do, so when he is in town we spend all the time explain (in meetings which he has the attention spend of a three year old) what we have done, why and why his ideas did not work (this takes four-eight months of explinations for him to quite asking about it), and what makes it worst (for me at less) is that my boss is money driven, he is more worried about can he patent it than understanding the chemistry behind (something a chemist should worry about, and leave the patent to someone else)
oh how i love graduate school
I must be something like explaining reality to sales or marketing :D
Hmm, could be ngate. Could be. :rolleyes:
Another great boss moment today. We had a college educated boss, who has been a boss for a few years, decide that he knew more about email than a 7-year email/network technician. There was an problem where an outside organization could not send us email. The email technician figured it out about 10 seconds after it was addressed(on a Monday). However, the boss decided to micromanage the troubleshooting and managed to drag it out until today(Friday). What more can I say?
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