Professional Cycling For the Fans - Lance Armstrong Autobiography movie???

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X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 09:16 AM
Anybody else have any other info on this? Was going to buy the book anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBezJdZmyZU
jet sanchEz
12-15-11, 09:34 AM
That looks to me like a fan-made trailer for a non existent film.
Commodus
12-15-11, 09:39 AM
Last info I heard on this movie was years ago. I think it was shelved. If not, I imagine they're waiting for the last chapters to be written...
Bob Dopolina
12-15-11, 10:03 AM
Won't he please just go the **** away!
LemondFanForeve
12-15-11, 10:07 AM
Won't he please just go the **** away!
Lol, I wish it were that simple. The name of the movie should be :"Duped/Fraud", both certainly fit him. Hopefully, with a looming grand jury investigation decision right around the corner, he does "go away" for years. One could only hope.
Homebrew01
12-15-11, 10:09 AM
Lol, I wish it were that simple. The name of the movie should be :"Duped/Fraud", both certainly fit him. I agree w/you 100%.
Or, "It's Not About The Dope"
ravenmore
12-15-11, 10:20 AM
The world does not need a Lance movie. Everyone knows his story inside and out.
LemondFanForeve
12-15-11, 10:21 AM
Or, "It's Not About The Dope"
Sad part is, that ******* will go to his grave, being in denial.
LemondFanForeve
12-15-11, 10:23 AM
The world does not need a Lance movie. Everyone knows his story inside and out.
Actually, we dont, & hes spent ALOT of money & duped ALOT of people into believing otherwise.
ravenmore
12-15-11, 10:28 AM
Lol, I wish it were that simple. The name of the movie should be :"Duped/Fraud", both certainly fit him. Hopefully, with a looming grand jury investigation decision right around the corner, he does "go away" for years. One could only hope.
Not sure he deserves that. He might be arrogant and narcissistic, but he has also been very friendly and approachable when I've run into him. Doped or not, he did come back from cancer that had spread to his brain and lungs. Just beating that is pretty amazing. Then to win the TDF 7 times in a row against heavily doped competition after surviving that is ridiculous. He also really cares about helping people fight cancer. Thats genuine.
tagaproject6
12-15-11, 10:30 AM
:popcorn:
Homebrew01
12-15-11, 10:30 AM
I think it's time for some popcorn
:popcorn:
(edit: damn ... beat me to it)
ravenmore
12-15-11, 10:32 AM
eh, its winter. It's what we do around here. :D
Commodus
12-15-11, 10:36 AM
Geez guys you didn't have to get it locked like immediately.
alexvpaq
12-15-11, 10:37 AM
WHAT IF...
The guy is so great and so humble that in fact he's really totally clean but paid people to Tarnish is reputation and get them to say they doped with him when actually no one did . All that because he was feeling bad about the other guys losing everytime against him.
What a great man! :O
eh, its winter. It's what we do around here. :D
What winter? You are in Austin! Isn't it 65 today? Go on ride'n.
Homebrew01
12-15-11, 10:48 AM
Geez guys you didn't have to get it locked like immediately.
It's not locked ..... yet ..... tick ... tick ... tick ...
http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/itvyorkshire/yorkshire_images/programmes/countdown_2001a.jpg
ravenmore
12-15-11, 10:54 AM
What winter? You are in Austin! Isn't it 65 today? Go on ride'n.
It's raining right now and cool'ish. Not complaining about that either because of the darned drought. I'd be out riding in it but I'm stuck behind a desk. This is what I do when I should be working. :D
ravenmore
12-15-11, 10:58 AM
WHAT IF...
The guy is so great and so humble that in fact he's really totally clean but paid people to Tarnish is reputation and get them to say they doped with him when actually no one did . All that because he was feeling bad about the other guys losing everytime against him.
What a great man! :O
Why did you capitalize tarnish? Just seemed odd. The guy is no saint. At all. The hate and cynism just seemed like a bit much though is all.
And I'll repeat myself - we REALLY don't need a Lance Armstrong movie.
ravenmore
12-15-11, 10:59 AM
and why do you guys think this is gonna get locked? ;)
punkncat
12-15-11, 11:00 AM
The envy and hate on the 41 continues to amaze and baffle me. If winning the TdF as many times as he has doesn't win any respect from you guys, what does? Really?
Commodus
12-15-11, 11:02 AM
The envy and hate on the 41 continues to amaze and baffle me. If winning the TdF as many times as he has doesn't win any respect from you guys, what does? Really?
That's just cuz you don't know anything about pro cycling. It's okay, few do. Don't beat yourself up over it.
LemondFanForeve
12-15-11, 11:43 AM
The guy is no saint. At all. The hate and cynism just seemed like a bit much
Exact same thing could be said about Lemond here, couldnt it? People give him **** all the time, but when its Lance, we're being too harsh? Cant have it both ways gang. Besides, he's kind of brought it on himself.(Armstrong).
Pete In Az
12-15-11, 11:50 AM
WHAT IF...
The guy is so great and so humble that in fact he's really totally clean but paid people to Tarnish is reputation and get them to say they doped with him when actually no one did . All that because he was feeling bad about the other guys losing everytime against him.
What a great man! :O
I'll have what alex is having...
The envy and hate on the 41 continues to amaze and baffle me. If winning the TdF as many times as he has doesn't win any respect from you guys, what does? Really?
Ha ha ha no way.
And I'll repeat myself - we REALLY don't need a Lance Armstrong movie.
Maybe WE don't, but THEY would probably love it. Sure, WE fanatics of the cycling forums are totally saturated with Mr. Lance and all the stories surrounding him. But I would argue that all the regular members of all the cycling forums combined don't amount to 5% of the total bicycling population in America. And that's being generous, I would actually expect the figure to be closer to 1% or less.
There's a ton of people out there who jump on a bicycle of some sort at least a couple times a month who don't spend ANY time on these cycling forums and do not scour the media outlets looking for cycling-related information. I'd bet THEY would be inspired enough to plunk down a few bucks to watch a movie about this phenomenon.
Sure many of THEM have heard of him . . . if they haven't I think it's a really sad reflection on them . . . but THEY just haven't spent any time reviewing any detailed information about the man. Cycling just isn't that important in their life (yes, that's something WE can hardly understand). Many would be inspired to learn about his life. And that doesn't count the millions of people who don't cycle at all, but yet would love to watch such an inspiring movie.
That's who I'm talking about, THEM, not US.
PS: . . . and at least 50% of US would go watch it too. :lol:
you guys makin some progress on this one?
Homebrew01
12-15-11, 12:30 PM
you guys makin some progress on this one?
Yup .... It's US vs THEM .........
X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 12:37 PM
So, really I just wanted to know if anybody has heard anything of the status of this project. Your thoughts on how much greater you are than Lance really has no bearing. When you write a book that somebody in here might want to read, your opinions of Lance might then become relevant. Until then.... Is this thing still coming out in 2012 or is it as previously suggested, just a home project?
PS: . . . and at least 50% of US would go watch it too. :lol:
I'm not too sure the non-cyclist movie-goer will be very interested in seeing a Lance biopic. The more time that passes since his last TdF victory he becomes more and more irrelevant. He'd need to have some high impact event to make him newsworthy again, like winning Ironman or getting indicted for running an international drug ring on the government's dime.
On the flip side, the USPS can use all the free advertising it can get right now.
Lance threads become doping threads. It's like the tides coming in; completely predictable.
Doping threads go to Pro (the 217) also predictable.
patentcad
12-15-11, 12:43 PM
That's just cuz you don't know anything about pro cycling. It's okay, few do. Don't beat yourself up over it.
if you actually operate under the delusion the any alleged doping that Armstrong may have engaged in gave him anything approaching an unfair advantage in pro cycling c. 1998-2005, you know less about pro cycling.
X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 12:43 PM
I'm not too sure the non-cyclist movie-goer will be very interested in seeing a Lance biopic. The more time that passes since his last TdF victory he becomes more and more irrelevant. He'd need to have some high impact event to make him newsworthy again, like winning Ironman or getting indicted for running an international drug ring on the government's dime.
On the flip side, the USPS can use all the free advertising it can get right now.
He's so irrelivent almost nobody could stay on topic....
rooftest
12-15-11, 12:45 PM
Your thoughts on how much greater you are than Lance really has no bearing. When you write a book that somebody in here might want to read, your opinions of Lance might then become relevant.
I didn't get any of that by reading this thread, but I'll throw in that I am much greater than Lance. Not hating on Lance - it's just that I'm pretty great.
As for his books - you should have said "When you hire somebody to ghost-write a book for you that's worth reading..."
Commodus
12-15-11, 12:49 PM
if you actually operate under the delusion the any alleged doping that Armstrong may have engaged in gave him anything approaching an unfair advantage in pro cycling c. 1998-2005, you know less about pro cycling.
This is actually an interesting conversation to have, but I suspect you have some learnin' to do before we could really have it.
I think we went around this before, and frankly I got tired of just writing out ancient history.
Terry66
12-15-11, 12:53 PM
So, I really don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about Lance. I will say it is impressive to beat cancer. It is also impressive to win the TdF just once. It is cool that whatever the motives, LiveStrong has raised a bunch of money and helped people in need. I mean those are all good things.
As far as doping. Can't say I approve of it, cause I certainly don't.....just have to wonder what percentage of his competition was also doping at the same time. I guess my feeling is that if a majority of the field was doping, then I guess all things considered, it was a level playing field and he was the best those years.
As far as TdF winners....seems nice guys rarely finish first. Cadel might be one of the exceptions
X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 12:57 PM
I didn't get any of that by reading this thread, but I'll throw in that I am much greater than Lance. Not hating on Lance - it's just that I'm pretty great.
As for his books - you should have said "When you hire somebody to ghost-write a book for you that's worth reading..."
Point being, whether you or steven king wrote your biography, nobody would care to read it.
X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 01:02 PM
So, I really don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about Lance. I will say it is impressive to beat cancer. It is also impressive to win the TdF just once. It is cool that whatever the motives, LiveStrong has raised a bunch of money and helped people in need. I mean those are all good things.
As far as doping. Can't say I approve of it, cause I certainly don't.....just have to wonder what percentage of his competition was also doping at the same time. I guess my feeling is that if a majority of the field was doping, then I guess all things considered, it was a level playing field and he was the best.
As far as TdF winners....seems nice guys rarely finish first. Cadel might be one of the exceptions
Looks like a similar point that PCad was trying to make. Cheating is all relative to whether or not the competition is fair or cheating as well. I don't know why so many people forget this point.
Commodus
12-15-11, 01:03 PM
Point being, whether you or steven king wrote your biography, nobody would care to read it.
Really? THAT'S your point? Cuz it seems pretty pointless to me.
Doesn't it follow that your opinion is irrelevant too? So by your own logic, I guess you should just stop posting altogether...
X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 01:16 PM
Really? THAT'S your point? Cuz it seems pretty pointless to me.
Doesn't it follow that your opinion is irrelevant too? So by your own logic, I guess you should just stop posting altogether...
I should except then you might think people actually care what you think about somebody else. Besides that, it is exactly what the thread is about. Lance's Biography and it's status. Not yours, not mine, not anybody else's posting in this thread. Not even PCads, though I would probably read that one...
Homebrew01
12-15-11, 01:19 PM
Looks like a similar point that PCad was trying to make. Cheating is all relative to whether or not the competition is fair or cheating as well. I don't know why so many people forget this point.
Cheating isn't relative. Cheating is cheating.
"everyone else is doing it" is not a valid reason to cheat.
X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 01:27 PM
Cheating isn't relative. Cheating is cheating.
"everyone else is doing it" is not a valid reason to cheat.
Well all hail every imposter president we have ever elected then. You're right, you cannot relinquish them of the fact theat they cheated, but it helps you recognize talent above most amongst an ocean of cheating. Allegedly braking the rules is different than having an unfair advantage over the field. But the UCI can't afford to start handing out the yellow jersey to 15th place riders who MIGHT be a legitimate first.
For us in the crowd, there is no valid reason. For those collecting a paycheck, I am sure there are plenty of reasons. Validity is up to the judges, but WELL AFTER the paychecks are handed out.
ravenmore
12-15-11, 01:34 PM
Exact same thing could be said about Lemond here, couldnt it? People give him **** all the time, but when its Lance, we're being too harsh? Cant have it both ways gang. Besides, he's kind of brought it on himself.(Armstrong).
I like Lemond too. Just because you like one doesn't mean you have to hate on the other. I wouldn't say I'm a huge idol worshiping fan of either of them, but they were both great cyclists.
Terry66
12-15-11, 01:34 PM
Cheating isn't relative. Cheating is cheating.
"everyone else is doing it" is not a valid reason to cheat.
No question you are 100% right. I am just saying that if everyone is doping, then it is a "level" playing field and winning the TdF 7 times in a level playing field is seriously impressive.
Now if you run out into a Spanish field in the middle of the night and inject a cow with performance enhancers and then during the tour you kill and eat that cow to get an advantage? Well, that is totally unforgivable.
ravenmore
12-15-11, 01:43 PM
Cheating isn't relative. Cheating is cheating.
"everyone else is doing it" is not a valid reason to cheat.
I remember in another thread someone said something along those lines. I told him to go play with his batman action figures. He then posted pictures of his batman action figures. :D (that wasn't you, was it?).
Doping is cheating, but its been going on since the dawn of the sport and is engrained in the culture of the sport IMO. Not defending it, or Lance. More just trying to explain it to people outside of it. I do think they are starting to make in roads into cleaning it up finally though.
ravenmore
12-15-11, 01:44 PM
You know what I always thought would make a bad ass movie? Doing a movie about Major Taylor.
X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 01:47 PM
No question you are 100% right. I am just saying that if everyone is doping, then it is a "level" playing field and winning the TdF 7 times in a level playing field is seriously impressive.
Now if you run out into a Spanish field in the middle of the night and inject a cow with performance enhancers and then during the tour you kill and eat that cow to get an advantage? Well, that is totally unforgivable.
And unimaginable. Lol. It takes a different amount to impress people, but I'm with you. 7 wins is overly impressive, not matter WHAT the circumstances were. There is not a single member on this forum who has gotten anywhere beyond just dreaming about riding a stage at the TdF. That is NOT to say that he deserves more credit than anybody who did it without cheating, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve any credit for what he accomplished which is more than 7 times the amount anybody in here has accomplished.
X-LinkedRider
12-15-11, 01:49 PM
You know what I always thought would make a bad ass movie? Doing a movie about Major Taylor.
Or this dood. I always wanted to know more than wiki had to offer on him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Miller_%28parachutist%29
Lance threads become doping threads. It's like the tides coming in; completely predictable.
Right on cue.
Ya know, as competitive as you guys claim to be, wouldn't you think that FOR ONCE you would want to prove this hypothesis wrong . . . I mean, just for the challenge of it?
Asking too much??
Commodus
12-15-11, 02:34 PM
I did try...
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