Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - 1975 murray scout bike - need information

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bluebear2297
12-23-11, 06:44 PM
PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS LINK FOR THIS SCOUT BIKE THAT I NOW HAVE. I CAN NOT FIND ANYTHING ELSE ANYWHERE ON THE WEB FOR THIS BIKE. I HAVE LOOKED AT SCOUT SITES AND EVEN FOR THE COMPANY. NO LUCK. CAN ANYONE TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS BIKE. IT IS THE SMALLER ONE WITH THE BANANA SEAT. THANKS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-MURRAY-bicycles-ad-OFFICIAL-BOY-SCOUT-BIKES-/370534638653?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item564595e43d


FastJake
12-23-11, 06:56 PM
Title in all lowercase, post in all caps. Curious indeed.

Murray was a department store brand so the bike is probably nothing too special. Probably a response to the hugely popular Schwinn wheelie bikes of the 60s. You know the year of the bike and have a catalog picture, what other info were you looking for?

bluebear2297
12-23-11, 07:07 PM
That is not all i know. These bikes were made specificly for the boy scouts for 2 years only 1975 and 1976. They where made by murray ohio manufacturing company in brentwood, tennessee. From what i can tell they have since been bought out by another company and now produce lawn mowers. This is a promotional ad that ran in the boys life magazine for the cub scouts and boy scouts back in 1975 and 1976. I can not find this bike itself anywhere which leads me to believe that it is very rare. If you enlarge the photo you will see that is has scout emblems on the seat, chain guard and front bar. I am looking for a rarity and maybe even a value. Thanks


bluebear2297
12-23-11, 07:14 PM
Hello

bluebear2297
12-23-11, 07:16 PM
Can anyone give me more info?

bluebear2297
12-23-11, 07:22 PM
All of these bike people on here and no one can help me. What is the point of a forum?

10 Wheels
12-23-11, 07:23 PM
Can anyone give me more info?

Murray was a department store brand so the bike is probably nothing too special.

What he said...Their lawn mowers were low quality.

bluebear2297
12-23-11, 07:25 PM
Ok. But it was made just for the scouts. Can't find another one anywhere. That equals rare. Also it is 35 years old.

10 Wheels
12-23-11, 07:27 PM
If you have one post some good pics of it.

bluebear2297
12-23-11, 07:29 PM
Why? What is that going to do?

10 Wheels
12-23-11, 07:31 PM
http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/2766253472.html

bluebear2297
12-23-11, 07:33 PM
What am i supposed to do with that site?

10 Wheels
12-23-11, 07:36 PM
Put it up for sale and find out what you can get for it.
Pics help.

http://erie.craigslist.org/bik/2766872907.html

http://erie.craigslist.org/bik/2693597073.html

bluebear2297
12-23-11, 07:43 PM
I know about craigslist. I have an account with them and have sold items from that site already. I am not currently looking to sell this bike. I am simply looking for more information. I thought that most of the people on a bike forum would have great knowledge of bikes in general. Does anyone or am i in the wrong place? Is this bike not rare? Have you or anyone else seen one of these bikes before? It was made just for the scouts. Did you even look at the link that i posted and enlarge the photo to read and see this bike?

bluebear2297
12-23-11, 08:00 PM
Anyone want to help?

wrk101
12-23-11, 08:17 PM
Try one of the boy scout collectible groups. Google is your friend. As others mentioned, the Murray bike was a crapper. At the same time, there are boy scout collectors (NOT bicycle collectors) that may have interest from that end. I have sold a few oddball boy scout collectibles (not bikes) on ebay (anything from old uniforms, boy's life stuff, etc), and did pretty well with some of them.

I can also tell you that the boy scout stuff is hit or miss. Some of the items do well, others don't get any response. Seeing the lack of response to that vintage bicycle ad is a clue (negative). Once an item is highly sought after, collectors often want other items that go with it: brochures, price lists, ads, maintenance books, or whatever.

They may have made this model just for the scouts, but that does not make it any better than worse than the other crappy bikes they made. Notice they had nine models of Scout Murrays? Bet they were all standard Murray products, with the boy scout paint, and maybe a couple of decals.

You really need a scout collector. Its all about scouting, and nothing about the bike itself (other than its link to scouting).


Ultimately, value of a niche item like your bike is determined through an auction on ebay. Local interest would most likely be zilch.

catmandew52
12-23-11, 08:37 PM
Basically not much, except to a Boy Scouts of America memorabilia collector. As a Murray bicycle alone maybe $50 to $75. A non Schwinn "Stingray" type bicycle has never garnered much collector interest with very few exceptions.

Rare does not always equal high value.

FastJake
12-23-11, 11:58 PM
Hello


Can anyone give me more info?


All of these bike people on here and no one can help me. What is the point of a forum?

FYI - this isn't a chat room. Not all of us are on here 24/7. At least give people a day or two to check the site and respond.

degan
12-24-11, 12:59 AM
Here is all the info you could possible need for your garbage bicycle.

Designed and sanctioned by the boy scouts of America. Nine models were made available which incldued 27", 26" and 24" 10 speeds, 26" 3 speeds, coaster brake and the 20" eliminator hi-rise, as well as two motocross styles. All models were finished in Scout colors. Make yourself a part of the Scout safety program and earn your merit badge on the official Scout bicycle.

bluebear2297
12-24-11, 10:13 AM
you all are idiots. you don't know any more about bikes then I do. I don't know crap about bikes the same as you all do. thanks for nothing.

Snydermann
12-24-11, 10:31 AM
you all are idiots. you don't know any more about bikes then I do. I don't know crap about bikes the same as you all do. thanks for nothing.

Obviously we've reached the Airing of Grievances part of the Festivus celebration.

3alarmer
12-24-11, 10:46 AM
you all are idiots.

Some are, some are not, just like in life, Blueballs.


you don't know any more about bikes then I do.
I don't know crap about bikes the same as you all do.

Thank you for setting the bar low on this one.:D



thanks for nothing.

Really, I think I speak for most of the people here when
I say you are quite welcome. :p Merry Christmas, baby.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1xyYQhSuHg&feature=related

FastJake
12-24-11, 11:42 AM
Typical case of someone unhappy to find out their item isn't worth a fortune. Learn to get over it. We do know about bikes, that's why everyone put your bike into the department store category it belongs in. As a bike it is worth very little. As a scouting item, maybe it's worth something. I suggest you ask a boy scout expert.

http://sheldonbrown.com/gloss_da-o.html#department


Obviously we've reached the Airing of Grievances part of the Festivus celebration.

Classic! I just saw that last night.

3alarmer
12-24-11, 12:13 PM
I was an eagle scout (little known historical fact:p.)
I even earned the cycling merit badge, a very long time ago.:o

It's still a POS, no matter how you decorate it.:bike2:

wrk101
12-24-11, 12:54 PM
you all are idiots. you don't know any more about bikes then I do. I don't know crap about bikes the same as you all do. thanks for nothing.

While I know nothing about bikes, I do know how to not type in all caps. I also know the difference between "then" and "than".

Typing in all caps = real genius.

brian3069
12-24-11, 02:39 PM
Discovering I'm not the lone idiot here is oddly comforting.

kc0yef
12-24-11, 07:13 PM
I was an eagle scout (little known historical fact:p.)
I even earned the cycling merit badge, a very long time ago.:o

It's still a POS, no matter how you decorate it.:bike2:

VERY COOL!!!


NOT COOL

you all are idiots. you don't know any more about bikes then I do. I don't know crap about bikes the same as you all do. thanks for nothing.

Ahhh Festivus they should have used 4130 instead of crappy Aluminum

Obviously we've reached the Airing of Grievances part of the Festivus celebration.

Just got home, wow
I wanted one of those bikes in 1975 Thank goodness I got a Nishiki instead...
That Bike in the B.S.A. collectors realm if perfect could be worth several Thousand yen to say the least.

Also a little known Fact I taught the mountaineering badge at the Kandersteg International Scout Centre... in CH (Switzerland) and Amateur radio badge in Missouri(MO)

DX-MAN
12-24-11, 07:38 PM
Wow, Bluebear . . . . . . . . . Really? Because we don't have Commander Data memory about something maybe 3% of us had any contact with, then we know nothing about bikes.

I have a short quiz for 'people' like you:

1. What's an Ashtabula crank?

2. Aside from the number of parts, what are the two differences between 1-piece and 3-piece cranks?

3. What brake system adapts a 20" wheel to a 26" fork?

I know these answers; do you? If not, then you know LESS than I do, which enables me to tell you to STFU. (I could do it, anyway, but I just wanted to ask you those questions....)

jeepseahawk
12-24-11, 08:28 PM
Actually, that bike is rare indeed, my boyscout leader is looking for that exact bike. I overheard him state he would pay top dollar, not positive but I think he said up to 3,000 U.S. dollars. Give me your full name, address, social security number, bank account number and date of birth and I will have him wire the money to you. Of course I would expect some kind of finders fee, though.

steve0257
12-25-11, 08:36 AM
Wouldn't being the official Boy Scout bicycle be like Pepsi is the official NFL cola?

unterhausen
12-25-11, 08:45 AM
the bike really is a piece of garbage, and the only thing special about it is that Murray tried to exploit a paid commercial Boy Scout connection. The only way you will get money from it is if someone wants it for the Boy Scout connection and knows nothing at all about bikes. I always resented the companies like Murray, Columbia, AMF, and Huffy that cynically made bike shaped objects to sell to gullible parents.

On that note, closed