Fifty Plus (50+) - Getting near N+1

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stapfam
01-07-12, 02:08 AM
I ride road and MTB although the MTB is getting less nowadays. Through lack of practice the offroad 15% slopes are getting harder and although I can manage them--They are done fairly slow.

Road riding is not always an option over here though. Weather is getting a bit extreme occasionally and the change in weather means that Flooded roads and icy mornings couldl keep me off the road bike in the winter.

So looking at the bike to "Compliment" my range of bikes- I have been looking at a bike that could do the "gentler" offroads for when I do not feel like chancing the roads. That means that I am looking at a Cyclocross beastie. My idea is that this sort of bike will do road rides if required aswell as the offroad trails. An MTB- although it is suited to the aggressive XC we have round here- is not a good bike on asphalt. A Cyclocross (CX) would do both. Almost sold on it but still have a few doubts. So I am looking at bikes- the options within them and prices. Narrowed it down to a couple and this is the front runner so far. Whyte bikes are a UK manufacturer of top rate Mountain bikes and this is their first Foray into Road/CX. There have been a few very favourable write ups in the mags but they are a bit scarce on the ground right now. Hence the problem of test rides but I do have a couple of months before a decision is made.

232716 http://www.whytebikes.com/2012/bike_page.php?ModNo=W-1-040-12

The other is the Giant TCX2. A make I know but still the problem of test riding.Both are similar specs and prices so I dare say it is going to be down to where I can get a test ride and deal.

232717 http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/tcx.2/9022/48878/

So I now have the problem of finding time to hunt down bikes that are available for testing and the time to Do it in.

May be retiring sooner than my governor wants me to.


LesterOfPuppets
01-07-12, 02:20 AM
Wow, quite a slack head tube on that Whyte.

stapfam
01-07-12, 03:39 AM
Wow, quite a slack head tube on that Whyte.

For a road bike-- YES

But Whyte are bringing some of their Mountain Bike experience to their CX bikes. For an MTB-It is not severe but that is why a test ride is necessary.


LesterOfPuppets
01-07-12, 03:54 AM
I ride 90s XC style MTBs, they all have 73-74° headtubes. ;)

I'm used to the sub-70° action on bikes today with 4+ inches travel, kinda odd on a rigid fork. Curious to read ride reviews.

Barrettscv
01-07-12, 08:17 AM
Consider: http://www.wheelbase.co.uk/product_17840.htm

The best aluminum frame for recreational CX riding. 2x10 or 3x10 Shimano Tiagra Drivetrain. 950 UK Pounds.

http://www.cannondale.com/2012/bikes/road/cyclocross/caadx/caadx-6-tiagra

LesterOfPuppets
01-07-12, 08:35 AM
Not very CXable, though.;

Barrettscv
01-07-12, 08:38 AM
Not very CXable, though.;

He wants a town & country bike for road & easier trail. ...It would work well enough at an event, too.

LesterOfPuppets
01-07-12, 08:56 AM
Ah, I see. I didn't notice X on second link. Maybe I shoulda clicked on 'em ;)

stapfam
01-07-12, 10:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S78WTCNPTFQ&feature=g-all-u&context=G257e6eaFAAAAAAAAKAA

This is the sort of trail I want the CX for. Plenty of "Rough" trails along the bottom of the hills that do not require a Mountain bike but a road bike won't make it. This is one of the smoother trails in Summer. Winter and there will be mud and a few ruts and loose scree.

And on geometry--My mountain bikes have a head tube angle of 71 1/2. That works but 72 and it gets a bit twitchy on the slow technical stuff. Road bikes have an angle of 72 deg and that seems to be about right . But offroad and the 69 Head tube angle on the Whyte seems as though it would be about right. I won't need fast reaction on a bumpy trail and I definitely will not be doing any CX racing. I don't like carrying bikes.

Barrettscv
01-07-12, 11:32 AM
This is the sort of trail I want the CX for. Plenty of "Rough" trails along the bottom of the hills that do not require a Mountain bike but a road bike won't make it. This is one of the smoother trails in Summer. Winter and there will be mud and a few ruts and loose scree...

Tire selection will be key. I've started using 700x38 Schwalbe Marathon Cross for the kind of riding in your video. These are very good on pavement and are good on gravel. Serious wet and soft mud can be a problem for this kind of 50/50 trekking tire, however.

http://reviews.wiggle.co.uk/7867-en_gb/5360007838/marathon-cross-mtb-tyre-reviews/reviews.htm

Not all CX bikes will take a 700x38 and full fenders.

One bike that is very popular in the US for this kind of riding is the Surly Cross Check. It will take 700x40 and full fenders with plenty of clearance. The Cannondale will be stiffer and lighter, and will take a 700x38, but fitting a full fender and a 38 might be a challenge.

http://reviews.wiggle.co.uk/7867-en_gb/5360029229/cross-check-cyclocross-frameset-2011-reviews/reviews.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvbfUC6Ib-I&feature=player_embedded

pat5319
01-09-12, 07:54 AM
onsider a steel frmed cyclocross, yes is a bit heavier but far far more comfortable to ride