Classic & Vintage - 1st gen nouvo record front derailleur

Hi
I believe i have a 1st gen fd.It has the cable stop ,with a nut and bolt attachment for the parallelogram and only one adjuster screw.All original fittings and perfect working order.It is as light as any modern one. But how can i use it on a modern bike with the cable stop?
Will it work as well as a modern one?
Cheers

Any chance we could see a picture of what your derailleur looks like? This one is purported to be first generation (http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=C10C6511-208A-41DD-A369-D3FC7016C8E3&Enum=113&AbsPos=7) and it has two adjuster screws. I would like to see the OP's single adjuster screw example.

I will stick up a photo later but on second it appears the inside adjuster screw is sheared off.I have to give it a clean to be sure
Cheers

Your link is to a Record rather than Nuovo Record FD. I'm thinking the first generation NR's (http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=7872E656-467E-4E21-83CF-E14C89053ED7&Enum=113&AbsPos=17) are the ones with the spring arm holding the arm to the steel post rather than using a circlip. The attachment point for that post is also thinner in back and so the post had a tendency to pull out of its swagged fitting.They had no intrinsic cable stop. I see on Velobase that the Nuovo Record/ Record distinction is questionable. My thinking on this is conjecture. I'm certain I'll find my further education delightful.

Any chance we could see a picture of what your derailleur looks like? This one is purported to be first generation (http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=C10C6511-208A-41DD-A369-D3FC7016C8E3&Enum=113&AbsPos=7) and it has two adjuster screws. I would like to see the OP's single adjuster screw example.

Well i took some photos but i don' know how to put them here.
So they are here http://www.flickr.com/photos/blamester/
Cheers for lookin any gen welcome

That is a very early Record derailleur, not a true first generation which would have a screw holding the upper pivot in place.

I don't think you would want to use this on a modern bike.

Hi lads
So what year do you think it is?
If i can't use it i may sell it or pass it on to someone who can, really it's no use to me i don't have a bike (and probably won't) have one to install it on.
Cheers
By the way nice photos otis

Your link is to a Record rather than Nuovo Record FD. I'm thinking the first generation NR's (http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=7872E656-467E-4E21-83CF-E14C89053ED7&Enum=113&AbsPos=17) are the ones with the spring arm holding the arm to the steel post rather than using a circlip. The attachment point for that post is also thinner in back and so the post had a tendency to pull out of its swagged fitting.They had no intrinsic cable stop. I see on Velobase that the Nuovo Record/ Record distinction is questionable. My thinking on this is conjecture. I'm certain I'll find my further education delightful.

They were all "Record." There was no "Nuovo Record" front derailleur.

They were all "Record." There was no "Nuovo Record" front derailleur.

What he said.

In fact, only 2.5 components in a "Nuovo Record group" were Nuovo Record. (Nuovo = new): The rear derailleur (new because it was made of aluminum instead of chrome-plated brass), the bottom bracket (new because it had the rifling in the cups and revised spindles to match), and sometimes the headset (just a box-marking thing; the headsets were exactly the same, regardless of what the box said).

Everything else in that 'group' was Record. Everything.

Hi lads
So what year do you think it is?
If i can't use it i may sell it or pass it on to someone who can, really it's no use to me i don't have a bike (and probably won't) have one to install it on.
Cheers
By the way nice photos otis

It is approx. 50 years old. Second-generation Record. The sheared-off adjuster screw is a problem that may or may not be fixable. If you can carefully extract that broken screw from below, then the derailleur is useable. If not, then it is a decorative item.

Hi cheers for the replies
I have been offered 40 dollars shipped for this which practically amounts to zero.Ireland to the States ain't gonna be cheap.
I quite like it actually a little piece off cycling history.
I think i will be able to remove the sheared screw but i will wait till i am in work next week.
The guy i got it off said he had the whole bike he just took this off, why i don't know?
He had no idea what it was it was just an old bike to him, hopefully i will see him again.
Thanks again

Hi dudes
I can't reply to private messages, post count to low.I bought it off a dude in a market near Drogheda where i live he had general bit's and bob's with some bike parts mostly junk / cheap.
Hopefully ,fingers crossed, next week i will see him again, I sure would like to see that bike, but i think it's probably been pulled apart