Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Kilo TT help

I recently decided to cut my dependence on gas. I live fairly close to my social life. My friends and girlfriend live 10 miles away. With a 20 miles round trip it isn't far at all! my problem arose when i wanted to buy a kilo(stripper probably, i like the color options, white to be exact). I thought i was set by just searching road bike sizing. Acording to my inseam (34 inches) and height (6 foot 1) i needed a 60cm bike. Sounds right, right? Well upend further investigation i read the kilo ran big. So now I'm worried. Since as you all know, the kilo is the easiest to get from bikes direct. Since i would have to order it i fear returns, or worse, having to keep the bike that doesn't fit me. So what do you guys suggest?

58cm

57 is the closest option

I'm 5'11", 31.5" inseam, and have a 53cm with a really short stem, so yeah, the frames do run large. I'd go with a 55cm for you.

i read somewhere someone had the same measurements as i did. he had the 55 but said it was a little small. he didn't specify if he was big enough to go to the next size. ugh so difficult

57cm then, 53cm sounds ridiculous for someone that size.

well think of it this way:
If your frame is a little small, get a longer stem and raise the seat.
if its too large, smack your nuts on the top tube.

your choice.

so you think 51 is about the right size then? won't be too big??

yeah thats what people have told me. Eventually i MIGHT need a new bike since I'm 18 idk how much more ill grow but i think i might go 55 then.

51cm? typo?

I'd say get the 57cm. 57's usually fit people who are 5'8" - 5'11" with 31ish - 32ish inseams. So if they truly do run a little large, your in good shape. And if they don't run as large as you think, you wont feel a difference unless you're riding long distances, and from the sound of it, you wont be.

yeah sorry. Im a little bit tired and my contacts are going weird. haha. alright so 57 it is! that what i thought. I had to do a little math and look at the geometry of the bike. and i was in between the 57 and 60. but I've heard always go down a size if you're in between sizes. So you just verified my calculation. thanks! :)

no problem, whats the stand over height on the 57?
or can you link me to the geometry?

839mm? im assuming that millimeters since if it were centi it'd be hella tall.

Fitment question?

http://i.imgur.com/YQM4D.jpg

>>>Fitment Calculator<<< (http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=FIT_CALCULATOR_INTRO)


Seriously, stop all the guesswork. Why not just be sure that the bike will fit you by using a calculator?

sorry I've never owned a road bike before. so the measurements are new to me

alright, thats 33 inches. Myself, at 6' with a 33.5" inseam, I'd also get the 57cm, no question about it. It would be a a little tight for me, not too much at all, but it should fit you like a glove.

Fitment question?

>>>Fitment Calculator<<< (http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=FIT_CALCULATOR_INTRO)

Seriously, stop all the guesswork. Why not just be sure that the bike will fit you by using a calculator?


11 o clock at night? time to wake up mom and tell her to get the level out!

i don't think shell be too thrilled about that. hahahah. ill look at that link in the morning. I tried to read it and it made no sense to me. probably due to my exhaustion ahha.

i don't think shell be too thrilled about that. hahahah. ill look at that link in the morning. I tried to read it and it made no sense to me. probably due to my exhaustion ahha.

disregard link. purchase 57cm.

the link is a really in-depth fitting for like racing and what not. not really necessary for your sub15 mile treks.

disregard link. purchase 57cm.

the link is a really in-depth fitting for like racing and what not. not really necessary for your sub15 mile treks.

So you're suggesting to ignore the better information, when it's there and easily accessible.

Why would you not want to have a bike that fits correctly? What makes you think he'll never ride for longer than 10 miles? That link isn't even "in depth race fitting" it's more of a baseline. Pro-fits are something else.

Basing bit fit over standover height alone is stupid. Reach is much more important.

You're even recommending a size 57, not even knowing geometry. Hell, not even knowing that Kilo's don't "run big" they are sized by measuring from c-c instead of c-t on the seat tube.

So you're suggesting to ignore the better information, when it's there and easily accessible.

Why would you not want to have a bike that fits correctly? What makes you think he'll never ride for longer than 10 miles? That link isn't even "in depth race fitting" it's more of a baseline. Pro-fits are something else.

Cause its a Kilo TT that he's buying from Bikes Direct................... <__<
If his junk doesn't get smashed when he gets off the bike, he's doin' it right. He can make little adjustments till it feels fine.. move the seat around, etc.
Although the info is there and easy to get, its a lot more than he needs.

57's usually fit people who are 5'8" - 5'11" with 31ish - 32ish inseams.

57cm would be too big in that height range, esp. that poor 5'8"er

http://i.imgur.com/sle3S.png

C-C woulda been cool to know... my bad...

get the 55cm OP

For what it's worth i am 5'8" and I ride a 50cm

5'9" riding a 58cm...measured by LBS....

Oh, you guys.

Standover only matters if the main purpose of the bike is to stand flatfooted over that sweet fixay while chatting up squirrels.For any kind of riding go by TT length.

Standover only matters if the main purpose of the bike is to stand flatfooted over that sweet fixay while chatting up squirrels.

You should have at least an inch or two clearance between top tube and your junk, standing flatfooted, no matter what, no? That seems like basic safety.

5'9" riding a 58cm...measured by LBS....

Sweet Jesus..are you an orangutan?

You should have at least an inch or two clearance between top tube and your junk, standing flatfooted, no matter what, no? That seems like basic safety.

Only if you are clueless as to how to properly mount and dismount a bicycle.

The competitive cyclist online calculator isn't that difficult and if you're not worried about being race ready, they have the french "fit" which is what I go by and between me, my wife and son all riding bikes based on their measurements, I figure its accurate.


Only if you are clueless as to how to properly mount and dismount a bicycle.

I stop pedaling and then when the crank kicks me off like a bucking bronco, I use my taint-to-top tube dismount while holding my hands above my head like Richard Nixon. Isn't that the only way?

I stop pedaling and then when the crank kicks me off like a bucking bronco, I use my taint-to-top tube dismount while holding my hands above my head like Richard Nixon. Isn't that the only way?

Absolutely !

http://cdn0.hark.com/images/000/001/114/1114/original.png

Only if you are clueless as to how to properly mount and dismount a bicycle.

It doesn't rule out accidents or emergencies. Don't get me wrong, I DGAF about it also but it's still kind of important in that sense.

6'0", 32" inseam, riding a 57cm TT w/ pursuit bars and very comfortable.

You should have at least an inch or two clearance between top tube and your junk, standing flatfooted, no matter what, no?

No matter what? No.

Wow, didn't realize "you should be able to stand over your bike comfortably without leaning it" was such a controversial opinion - always thought that's why it was called "standover" in the measurements. I stand corrected I guess. No pun intended.

eta: from sheldonbrown.com - It is obvious why you shouldn't have a bike that is too tall to stand over with a reasonable safety margin (although even this sizing practice was not universally accepted for the first 30 or 40 years of the diamond frame.)

How often are you actually standing over your top tube? A bike that fits you while you're riding is much more important than having two inches of clearance when you're standing still.

Agreed of course, but if you can't stand over the bike the top tube is likely too long for you anyway, barring oddly proportioned bikes and people.

This doesnt work for short people, like TT. Unless the bike has smaller wheels then the top tube will be pretty high, then add in the high BB of a track frame. On the other end of things, my 67cm frame clears my crotch by just a centimeter or two but the TT is a good length. Compact frames help this issue but few SS frames are made in that style

Agreed of course, but if you can't stand over the bike the top tube is likely too long for you anyway, barring oddly proportioned bikes and people.

Nonsense. Track bikes have higher bottom brackets than road bikes, which increases standover while in no way affecting top tube length. Also, track bikes often have considerably shorter top tubes than road bikes. I have no standover clearance on my track racing bikes, yet they fit me perfectly.

Edit: hairnet beat me to it.

I also have very little standover clearance on my 58cm Leader 722, yet it fits me perfectly. In my experience, a lot of people ride bikes that are too small for them because they base too much of their fit on that 2" of clearance "rule".

Point taken. Is the Kilo geometry high like that? My 725 is kinda long-and-low, not that that's relevant.

None of the track racing I've seen (there are many many hours of recent European and World Championship meets from Eurosport on the cycling torrent site I use) has been on steel bikes so I guess I'm not so familiar with how a traditional feel frame track fit looks in action, but yeah obviously standover height is not gonna be an issue on the track.

Wow, didn't realize "you should be able to stand over your bike comfortably without leaning it" was such a controversial opinion - always thought that's why it was called "standover" in the measurements. I stand corrected I guess. No pun intended.

eta: from sheldonbrown.com - It is obvious why you shouldn't have a bike that is too tall to stand over with a reasonable safety margin (although even this sizing practice was not universally accepted for the first 30 or 40 years of the diamond frame.)

The easiest way to understand the illogical point of your statement is the "no matter what." Always/Never are contentious and will always rise to rabble rabble moments.