Utility Cycling - Where should i put the attachment for the trailor?

Hi i have an ebike and now that i have had the motor replaced there is no space for the attachment for the trailor. It is one of those circular tube things that the trailor slots into then a pin keeps it in place. There is not enoug room via the nut/bolt that you can see so has anyone got any suggestions?

Attach the trailer hitch to the seat post to solve your problem.

A Burly Trailer had a hitch that clamped across the left, rear Triangle.
its largely nylon and a long screw secures it towards the back.

The new owners of the brand ship the one held by the nut,and have the other
as an aftermarket item. i think, havent looked at current catalog ..

But yea seat post mount cures a lot of issues.

make a small plate to mount between your chain stay and seat stay, and have a extra bolt in middle to attach the trailer too. or same thing but have the bolt positioned lower than the chain stay

Hi the arm of the trailor only goes to one side of the bike. The part i have in the photo. There is no way to attach to the seat area as the lithum battery is there.

fietsbob-sorry i don't know what those things are that you mentioned.

katcorot-i googled and found out what a chain stay is but i don't think i have the other thing. This bike is a bit different. W@ill have to photograph the bike to show what i mean.

fietsbob is talking about this trailer hitch: the Burley Trailer Classic Hitch (http://www.biketrailershop.com/burley-trailer-classic-hitch-p-1253.html), which I happen to agree is probably your best solution. I've never used one (I've only used the Burley Forged Hitch (http://www.biketrailershop.com/burley-trailer-forged-hitch-for-quick-release-and-solid-axle-p-1251.html)), so I'm not sure if you'll need a flex connector (round (http://www.biketrailershop.com/burley-trailer-round-flex-connector-and-safety-strap-kit-p-1258.html) or square (http://www.biketrailershop.com/burley-trailer-square-flex-connector-and-safety-strap-kit-p-1257.html)).

Oh ok i didn't know about that. I don't think that is for my type of trailor. The thing that the trailor attaches to is nothing like mine

Oh ok i didn't know about that. I don't think that is for my type of trailor. The thing that the trailor attaches to is nothing like mineYes, we understand, but you're going to either have to make up a plate to mount the hitch plate you have now, bolt it to those 2 fender/rack mounting hole in your picture, or modify the trailer arm you have now to work with the Burley hitch.

Or something else.

Oh so mine is called a burley hitch ok. Didn't know what it was called. OK yeah i have a few ideas now after seeing the pictures of what you posted. I am thinking of a plate across with a bolt the size of the one that goes through the back wheel then attach the hitch to that....

Oh so mine is called a burley hitch ok. Didn't know what it was called. OK yeah i have a few ideas now after seeing the pictures of what you posted. I am thinking of a plate across with a bolt the size of the one that goes through the back wheel then attach the hitch to that....
Eh, I'm not sure what your hitch is called. I got the idea from a quick read of your original post that it was something else.

I thought it was something like this.
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Cycling/Trailers/PRD~5006-401/mec-trailer-qr-hitch-block.jsp

A picture is definitely called for.

Oh so mine is called a burley hitch ok. Didn't know what it was called. OK yeah i have a few ideas now after seeing the pictures of what you posted. I am thinking of a plate across with a bolt the size of the one that goes through the back wheel then attach the hitch to that....

Instead of doing this try to find a kickstand with this sort of atatchment. I use the type with three screws going trough to hold it in place. Drill out the one in the middle and put whatever you choose here instead on the axel.

http://www.amazon.com/Greenfield-SKS2BC-Oversize-Carded-Kickstand/dp/B0030KZHP0/ref=pd_sim_sg_1
Difficult to find a good example online in a hurry but yoy should get it from ths picture. A steel one that is not as adjustable as this one would be quite rigid.

Put some pieces of rubber or leather under it to protect your frame.

Hi ok the thing that goes onto the bike whatever that is called is at the bike store. So i can't post a pic. Here though are the pics i sent to the bike store to see if he can come up with something. I can't get the bike and the trailor to the store at the same time as i have no way to attach the trailor plus i don't own a car!

Nope that is not the right attachment...it is a round tube thing with a hole or you put the trailor end into the the tube then a pin goes into the tube and trailor end.

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I don't understand that kickstand i am afraid. I use a centre stand for this bike. Sorry i don't understand!

Do not worry, we have all been there!

Let me try again. You wrote this earlyer: "I am thinking of a plate across with a bolt the size of the one that goes through the back wheel then attach the hitch to that....".

What I suggested is: Instead of making a plate across with a bolt the size of the wheel axel you could buy (unless you already own one) a kickstand for the rear. If you already use a centre stand (I use a two legged centerstand on most of my bikes) you can cut the kickstand legg off, what you realy want is the "clamp" that atatces the kickstand to the bike.

Found one here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREENFIELD-ALLOY-BICYCLE-BIKE-REAR-KICKSTAND-VIDEO-/270597421144? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREENFIELD-ALLOY-BICYCLE-BIKE-REAR-KICKSTAND-VIDEO-/270597421144)

If you can imagine using only the clamp, not the kickstand that he mouned to the clamp in the begining of the wideo and drilling a hole trough it to atach your 10mm bolt. Personally I would not buy this exact kickstand since the top of the clamp is not shaped to "hug" the seatstay (the small tube going from your wheel bolt up to where the seatpost enters the seattube).

I am sure I have more than one bike like this but I fear it is in the basement for the winter so pictures could be difficult. I`ll try tomorrow.

Edit: this one is slightly better. Three bolts going trough the "clamp". Drill out the middle bolt and replace it with a 10mm bolt with one washer on each side plus a nut of course.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-T-B-Kickstand-Rear-Black-Cycling-Bike-Bicycle-/330421435215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ceea6fb4f

Yeah i don't have anything at present. I do have a rear kickstand that used to be on the bike when i bought it but i got the centre one because of the lead acid system i had on the bike before....such a long awful story. Anyway the centre stand was ok but it had to have a spacer,,,,now thats off because they forgot to put it back on when i was upgraded to a lithium system....geez this has all cost me too much money!
Thanks for the video but i am wayyyy beyond my budget and that stand is in the us and we don't get much here in Australia. Would just cost too much to get something outside of australia. Whatever i do i will have to build it myself or get from a junk place.
Thanks though....will have to theorise some more and also get a chance to talk properly to the bike store guy as i need the spacer for the present stand as the chain is rubbing against the stand when folded/riding. Ah i know i was going to bring up something else but i am tired and i forgot::thumb:

Oh yeah now i remember the frame is very thick compared to usual bikes....so the part your talking about might not fit this bike...the one in the link i mean....ah well as you said you don't recommend that one anyway but the area of the bike i was talking about is that part so you picked up correctly what i meant!

some MTB`s have seryusely oversized tubing so I know you can get many sizes. I am not in the US of A and not in australia but I can buy them locally and so can you - or be lucky and find a used one. Sure the one on the bike can not be used? Forgot about the picture today as I am up to my neck in rebuilding my kitchen. Maybe tomorrow. Hope you find a solution anyway.

You need a part called an Instep/Schwinn trailer coupler. It has one hole that goes over the axle and is secured by the axle nut and a socket your trailer tube goes in and is held by a pin with a spring lock. If you are saying your axle is too short you could get a longer one or adjust your hub so there are more axle threads sticking out on the left.

Check out the trailer hitches for Bikes At Work trailers. Rugged and looks like it won't get in your way.

http://www.bikesatwork.com/bicycle-trailer-accessories/bike-trailer-hitch-on-frame-450x600.jpg

Bike at Work trailer hitch (http://www.bikesatwork.com/bicycle-trailer-accessories/bike-trailer-hitch.html)

Hi Badmother what is an mtb? Thats ok i am rather busy myself :0)

Mauriceloridans-yeah the axle is too short and can't be extended....it was a very complicated thing that happened to the bike. I don't know enough to explain all the stuff that has been done to this bike since i have had it and don't know enough terminology. Money is also not on my side so not going to spend huge amounts on the bike when it has cost me a fortune already.

Artkansas- sorry i don't know what i am looking at in that picture but you did give me a few ideas :0) as to what to possibly do :0)

mtb = mountainbike

What Artkansas is showing you is a trailer hitch made by the company "Bike at work". Click the link in his post under the picture.

As you can see the hitch is clamped to the frame and no need for the axel.

mtb = mountainbike

What Artkansas is showing you is a trailer hitch made by the company "Bike at work". Click the link in his post under the picture.

As you can see the hitch is clamped to the frame and no need for the axle.

+1

You can either buy the hitch from them, it's rated to 500 lbs. Or use it as a pattern to make your own hitch mounted to the frame and not the axle.

Ah i always wondered what mtb was....thanks mother :0)
Yeah i looked at the picture and i can't figure out what i am seeing.

Artkansas-yes i want to build something myself. i know i am taking ages but i am trying to solve several things with this bike at the same time and other stuff :0)

237609So I finally managed to pull out two bikes that has different237608 systems that you could use (had forgotten about one of them).

First the yellow Scott mtb with the kickstand system I tryed to explain to you:237607

That post was confusing. Text and pictures all ower the place. Lets try the next bike. A folder with FAT chainstays (like on your bike) so I am thinking maybe you can use the same system. You need a "ahead stem" and then you butcher it. The part that normally clamps onto the bars is clamped around your chainstay. Two screws so should be easy. Remember to put a piece of old tube, leather or similar in between to protect the bike. Cut it of in the desired lenght and cut out to give place for the part that is atached to the trailer. Drill a hole trough and lock it with a bolt or similar.

Bike Friday, for their trailers, Adopted a common Industrial Air powered tool Quick disconnect.

you fabricate a way to mount the Male end [its usually on the tool being used]

then the female end is connected to a section of hose,
which then you attach to the tow bar of your trailer ..

Hi Badmother actually that first lot of pics makes more sense to me because i could put the attachment on that big bolt in the centre of the plate that is attached to the bike! The second one is possible but i don't know how to make things like that. I don't have the equipment. Its got my mind working though and i am going to a reuse centre today to check out what they have. They also have a lot of bikes and bike parts there that are dirt cheap. I mean i can get things there for 50c which is real nice :0) Thanks heaps for digging those bikes and and the pictures are great!

Thanks fietsbob but i am strapped for $$$ and no way to make anything complicated. Well it is for me anyway. Not set up to do things to do with welding. I wish i lived near my Dad as he has everything in his fantastic garage!

237687I spotted these two parts today and thought i could do something with one of them. What do you think?

Well i got the part back last week and made an arm to go across the frame to put the hitch on the bike and today silly me didn't hear that the nut came off and the hitch did too. Its somewhere in the rain and i just can't retrace my steps or cycling to go find it. The rain is way too heavy....so i googled and this is what it looks like http://www.amazon.com/Coupler-Attachment-InStep-Schwinn-Trailers/dp/B0013TR66I . Anyway so i have to start again now and see what else :0( Does anyonme know where i can get the same hitch as i am not finding anyone on ebay that sells them or in australia. Amazon.com don't seel most things to us in australia i found out. I don't know why!

I havce not seen anything like it when searching the net. One solution is if somebodyin a different country is willing to order it for you and then send it to you.

Yes i might have to do that. I have friends in the US but i am out of touch with them right now. Might have friends elsewhere that can get the same part or similar. I ended up finding out who manufactured the trailor and it is a US company called Instep. I emailed their website to see if they have an Australian distributor...seems like they do in Melbourne but half the time people put stuff on their website that is out of date....so will wait for the reply :0) I really should have tightened the nut on the damn bike...but i was in a hurry and then the motor didn't sound so good all the way today. It was distracting and i was upset that i just spent $1000 on a new motor, battery and retrofitting....will have to wait til the rain stops to see what the problem is and if i have to take it back to the shop :0(

Trailor an Aussi spelling of trailer ? like tyre, vs tire, centre vs center.

hate to think how the trailer called the bugger would have a different adverb
come to mind trying to sell them down there.. :lol:

Well i got the part back last week and made an arm to go across the frame to put the hitch on the bike and today silly me didn't hear that the nut came off and the hitch did too. Its somewhere in the rain and i just can't retrace my steps or cycling to go find it. The rain is way too heavy....so i googled and this is what it looks like http://www.amazon.com/Coupler-Attachment-InStep-Schwinn-Trailers/dp/B0013TR66I . Anyway so i have to start again now and see what else :0( Does anyonme know where i can get the same hitch as i am not finding anyone on ebay that sells them or in australia. Amazon.com don't seel most things to us in australia i found out. I don't know why!

I went ahead and pretended to order one. Both my country and Australia was on the list of countys they would ship to. Did you do the same and get a different message later in the process? I would be suprised if they would not send such a small and cheap item. Can not be much paperwork or packing costs involved?

Oops haven't looked at this thread in ages. Yes some aussies spell in different ways but me being better than most at the English language i usually win he he. I am not sure you understand what bugger means....its just an other way of saying 'damn it' or 'damn thing'.
I ended up getting the fitting for the bike but there are so many problems that i don't now remember i had to give up. Found out the new lithium system is 24v and the old lead system was 36v. Just way too many problems with energy/force/push whatever so no use of trailor anymore.

Yeah sorry badmother it has been such a long drawn out process i don't remember what happened now :0) anyway will save my money and get a new ebike because i am sick of the stress

I have a Burley Classic Hitch on my cargo trailer, and a poor imitation on my flatbed - it's really all I've ever used. They work fine. On the Burley, I did manage to break the rubber-encased rope inside the spring connector. Replaced it with 3 links of chain and it's better than new.

Oh thats good it works. With me its the lack of grunt and retro fitting with this bike(new lithium system) that have made things go bad....anyway still have the trailor so one day i can use it again :0) in the meantime i have front and back basket so shopping is still being done :0)

Oh thats good it works. With me its the lack of grunt and retro fitting with this bike(new lithium system) that have made things go bad....anyway still have the trailor so one day i can use it again :0) in the meantime i have front and back basket so shopping is still being done :0)

Sorry to hear about your problems. There could maybe be some help to find in the Electric Bikes forum http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php/258-Electric-Bikes.

Thanks well i think you learn by things so i can't see it as a waste of time :0) Yeah i am sure i have posted things in that part of the forum before. Not much i can do about this current situation. I have gone back to the store i bought the bike from many times and discussed stuff with them. Plus they have had a few looks, done adjustments etc. Has been a long process. Anyway i am still riding. Just not as far as i would like. I sometimes think that the reason why this less powerful motor doesn't work as well for me is because i don't have the muscles to help the motor because i have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which was discussed many times. I think people underestimate my abilities or lack thereof....anyway i am stronger than i was when i started cycling again 3 years ago or whatever time frame it has been so the bike has helped me achieve some fitness or better level than before :0)

Thanks well i think you learn by things so i can't see it as a waste of time :0) Yeah i am sure i have posted things in that part of the forum before. Not much i can do about this current situation. I have gone back to the store i bought the bike from many times and discussed stuff with them. Plus they have had a few looks, done adjustments etc. Has been a long process. Anyway i am still riding. Just not as far as i would like. I sometimes think that the reason why this less powerful motor doesn't work as well for me is because i don't have the muscles to help the motor because i have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which was discussed many times. I think people underestimate my abilities or lack thereof....anyway i am stronger than i was when i started cycling again 3 years ago or whatever time frame it has been so the bike has helped me achieve some fitness or better level than before :0)

It is great that you are able to ride a bike with your CFS but sad you have to waste a lot of energy on something that should help you but are instead draining you. Under estimate the lack of abilities is done all the time since it is not possible to see that something is not right.

Thanks i am a pretty determined person but it is sometimes disappointing. My heath or lack thereof and the bike he he. Yeah had many incidents where the bike made me so sick i was in a terrible state but i am persistent. I had physiotherapy for a year before i got it and wasn't even able to stand prior to physio. I also do pilates everyday as i was trained in it 30 years ago. Made so much difference....anyway will know better what to buy after all this mess he he. I had also bought a **** ebike on ebay before this bike and that was a complete disaster...fortunately i got the bad seller to refund me as i was like a bull dog and went after the scam artist :0)