Fifty Plus (50+) - White bar tape

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Digital Gee
02-12-12, 01:00 PM
So my new bike isn't here yet, and it comes with white bar tape, which looks super cool in the showroom, but will probably soil quickly. In my "Yay, I pulled the trigger" thread, I talked about swapping to black tape, and there were a couple of comments about cleaning white tape.
A quick google search produced, as is often the case, a plethora of strong opinion on both sides of the issue. No consensus. Easy to clean, PITA.
I actually really like the appearance of clean white tape. I don't mind a little extra maintenance if that's all it takes. I usually wear gloves when I ride, by the way.
So, in the interest of prompting a lively discussion which could fill the gap left by the end of the NFL season, let's hear it - do you like white tape or not?
If I don't swap the white tape for black (or red), I would have extra pie money. That's certainly something to consider. :)
lphilpot
02-12-12, 01:07 PM
Mine came with black, but if I had been quick-thinking enough I would have asked my LBS to swap for white instead. I guess now I'll just wait until it needs replacing at some point. Then again, my bike has black spokes / hubs, etc. and given a choice I'd pick natural (silver) over that, but I still like it the way it is.
stapfam
02-12-12, 01:08 PM
One 25 mile ride on the new Pinnie and I was wearing gloves. The tape is dirty now. I am leaving it on till I get fed up with attempting to clean it and then it will go to Black. But by that time after a few punctures and on road repairs- It will probably be black so May get Dirt coloured tape instead.--Hang on--I'll already have that.
10 Wheels
02-12-12, 01:10 PM
The sliver sounds like a good replacement.
what color is the saddle? they should be complementary, if you wuz OCP ;)
Digital Gee
02-12-12, 01:27 PM
The saddle is white. That's stock, not my choice. I would have preferred black or a buttery brown leather. But that can wait until I've dialed in the bike and decide if I like the saddle. It's a Masi SLR saddle, with which I'm not familiar. Like all saddles, it gets mixed reviews online.
what color is the saddle? they should be complementary, if you wuz OCP ;)
Mobile 155
02-12-12, 01:37 PM
You will be getting new tape soon anyway. White is fine if you always wash your gloves or aways clean it after every ride. But it is like a dirt and grease magnate. Change a flat and don't have a something to clean your hands and you end up with dirty tape. I have had it and replaced it one time. Now I tend to pick a different color. But you are correct it looks good when it is clean.
The brand of tape makes a big difference in how easy it is to clean. LizardSkins are some of the easiest to clean and some of the most expensive.
Up to this point I've been running black tape but am expecting to try white this year. Lets face it - the consumer has never has such an opportunity to color match bicycle components before. Paint jobs AND accessories have come a long way. I'm thinking gloves with white palms might help keep things clean. Dye does transfer when damp.
stapfam
02-12-12, 02:15 PM
My Uno came with white tape and I was going to change it. Only thing is that the tape supplied is very thick and when fitted felt comfortable. There might be a reason for that. The LBS suggested that I change it to a better colour and said they had plenty in stock. I told them that IF I did change it- it would be for the same as Pinarrello supply as stock and not the crap they sold me last time. Only one reason for bar tape and that is comfort. Colour and I reckon there is only one to use and that is whatever shows the dirt the least.
buelito
02-12-12, 02:35 PM
bar tape should be like bike shorts--black, as it gives you something to wipe your hands on that doesn't show dirty. White bar tape will be dirty very quickly, and yes, it can be really easy to clean, but often it gets left to do 'later'... and you don't realize it is dirty until your next ride, and then it just gets dirtier. I don't wear white shorts for the same reason... one flat, and I absentmindedly wipe my hands on my legs (as if I were wearing jeans)....and if the shorts are white, you have stains that last forever. Go for the black :)
train safe-
Velo Fellow
02-12-12, 02:38 PM
I'd like to put in a word for being anti-prissy about tape. Personally, white tape with a little grime on the edges suggests a hard and often ridden bike-- or, admittedly, a slob-rider with greasy gloves. Just like a well-used steel frame gets a few dings and scratches and develops "character". ("Yup, that scuff on the fork is where I hit the guard railing and took down two other guys.") Anyway, tape is easy to change out......different seasons, different moods, different "images" we want to project.............try 'em all.
New bikes do demand the perfect tape color, texture, end caps, etc. The older and more familiar the bike, the funkier we can get. Years ago my newliwed wife only wore the the most delectable gossamer stuff to bed...years later it was hard to tell which species she belonged to. But it somehow didn't matter.
So, Deege, no matter what the wrapping, the ride will be just the same. :lol:
BikeWNC
02-12-12, 02:44 PM
I use white bar tape. I like the way white offsets the darker hoods, wheels and frames of my bikes. I almost never wash it and replace it when I can't stand how it looks anymore.
Mobile 155
02-12-12, 03:04 PM
DG, here is the deal. I ride down to SD now and then and one day I might see you. If you have white bar tape the rule is you buy coffee and Pie. And Denver once said Blueberry is the official 50+ pie. Think of blueberry on white tape.
Jim from Boston
02-12-12, 03:05 PM
My mechanic when changing my brake levers and hoods (both black) changed my handlebar tape to white, Fizik brand. I was skeptical at first, but now I love it because it looks really cool, and is comfortable, with some padding. It is still clean, though I don’t take my road bike out in bad weather, and I have mostly ridden much of the time with full fingered gloves. I think he replaced it in late summer.
See this thread about white tape that appeared on the Road Forum recently, “Recommendations for white bartape”:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/793764-Recommendations-for-white-bartape?highlight=white
gtragitt
02-12-12, 03:10 PM
bar tape should be like bike shorts--black, as it gives you something to wipe your hands on that doesn't show dirty. White bar tape will be dirty very quickly, and yes, it can be really easy to clean, but often it gets left to do 'later'... and you don't realize it is dirty until your next ride, and then it just gets dirtier. I don't wear white shorts for the same reason... one flat, and I absentmindedly wipe my hands on my legs (as if I were wearing jeans)....and if the shorts are white, you have stains that last forever. Go for the black :)
train safe-
Another reason for black shorts is the fact that they are less transparent.
I've got white bar tape and white seat on my Specialized. This will be my third year on the bike and the tape still looks good. Originally I didn't think I would like it but now I do. When it comes time to replace the tape, I think I'll stick to white.
Digital Gee
02-12-12, 03:15 PM
I'd like to put in a word for being anti-prissy about tape. Personally, white tape with a little grime on the edges suggests a hard and often ridden bike-- or, admittedly, a slob-rider with greasy gloves. Just like a well-used steel frame gets a few dings and scratches and develops "character". ("Yup, that scuff on the fork is where I hit the guard railing and took down two other guys.") Anyway, tape is easy to change out......different seasons, different moods, different "images" we want to project.............try 'em all.
New bikes do demand the perfect tape color, texture, end caps, etc. The older and more familiar the bike, the funkier we can get. Years ago my newliwed wife only wore the the most delectable gossamer stuff to bed...years later it was hard to tell which species she belonged to. But it somehow didn't matter.
So, Deege, no matter what the wrapping, the ride will be just the same. :lol:
When my car was brand new, back in 2000, I wanted it to remain pure and pristine. Fat chance. Now it's got a dent or two, the seats have duct tape, and there's scratches from various bikes on the bike carrier on the back. That said, I am now free. I don't care where I have to park it, I don't worry about another scratch, I just want it to work mechanically for as long as possible.
That said, I'm still torn between white and black tape. I think the white tape looks good given a white saddle, but I think a black one would stay looking good for a lot longer. I'm all for "character" but not when the bike is new. After I rejoin Club Tombay, well, that's when things might change. Perhaps I should get gray tape! :thumb:
gtragitt
02-12-12, 03:16 PM
The white tape in the Masi photo looks good with the white saddle. If you change to a black saddle you can change to black tape. I didn't like the white saddle on my bicycle because it was too wide. I changed it to a black Specialized Toupe saddle. I changed to black tape when I bought narrower carbon bars. The new black tape was also more comfortable than the stock white tape.
cccorlew
02-12-12, 03:30 PM
First off, saddle and bar ape must match.That said:
MyLilPony has white tape on her Rudy. Looks pretty cool. It also has a cool "Yep, I ride lots" look when the tape gets a bit dirty. I think she's proud the tape on teh drops is darker than the tape on the bar tops. YMMV.
BigAura
02-12-12, 03:53 PM
I'm thinking Lou Reed says White Tape/White Seat. Use Oxy spray cleaner on the tape, it works great. That's what I did until I got tired of cleaning it all the time and sold the bike.
cranky old dude
02-12-12, 04:21 PM
Just ride no-handed! Tape will stay clean and new.
Velo Fellow
02-12-12, 05:06 PM
General observation as the Amgen flew by me last year, and after many hours watching Versa on the sofa (not white), most of the pro's use white tape. 'Nuff said.
trackhub
02-12-12, 05:34 PM
I use white bar tape on my Gunnar. I have previously used black and gray. I feel the white compliments the blue very nicely.
Hard to keep clean? Not really. Yes, it will get some munge on it, but is easily lived with.
Retro Grouch
02-12-12, 05:39 PM
Perhaps I should get gray tape! :thumb:
Match your beard?
miss kenton
02-12-12, 05:39 PM
I have two blue bikes. Both came with white saddles and bar tape. One still is in white. I had an accident with the other and tore the saddle up pretty badly. I was thrilled to have a good reason to replace the saddle and bar tape with black. I don't like the white bar tape because it does get dirty and I can never get it really clean. YMMV, but the white ensemble always makes me feel a little "Sally Starr"ish.
237179
qcpmsame
02-12-12, 06:25 PM
"White Tape is so Pro" Now someone post a link to the You Tube "Things Roadies Say" vid
I'd say either red or black for the Masi Evo with its frame colors.
Bill
Get the white tape, it gets dirty from riding it. So get it good and dirty, it's like a badge of honor. When you can't stand it any more, change it.
It's the same way with kayak bottoms, they get scratched from use, so we check out each others bottoms(?) to see who uses their boat, or if it's a roof rack queen.
ftp1020
02-12-12, 06:33 PM
For white cork tape, try that lemon furniture polish (like Pledge). Put enough on to build up a bit, and wipe *all* of it off. Rub the darker areas more intensely and it really does come off to look acceptable. Nothing else I tried worked. It won't be as arctic white as new, but it should be close enough.
teachme
02-12-12, 06:35 PM
I think black tape would look awesome with the red hoods.
BluesDawg
02-12-12, 07:22 PM
Since you aren't really sure what you want, why not run with what you have for a while? You'll either find that you don't mind if it gets a little dirty, you'll find an easy enough way to clean it or you'll decide you don't like it and you'll have a better idea what you would rather have. Sometimes it is good to make decisions based on living with something rather than based on what you think it would be like.
volosong
02-12-12, 07:39 PM
I love my white tape. But, I have to change it about every three months because I'll only use the old-fashioned cloth tape. Can't really clean that. Thankfully, it is only five bucks a roll, so ten bucks and I'm good as new. Only problem is that less and less shops stock the stuff. It's usually a special order these days.
Lizard skins in white. Grippy and cleans well
First of all, there is enough black and white on the bike that it will look fine with black bar tape and white saddle. You probably won't be riding with those who would be offended by a black/white match.
I think that black tape would look great with those red brake hood covers. I say black bars and white saddle. Besides if the saddle is uncomfortable it should be changed anyway, then you could get a black saddle and satisfy the fashion police.
http://www.wrenchscience.com/DBImages/BTI/pictures/400h/CN7621.JPG :innocent:
Mobile 155
02-12-12, 10:16 PM
http://www.wrenchscience.com/DBImages/BTI/pictures/400h/CN7621.JPG :innocent:
Ahh...Problem solved.
I have two blue bikes. Both came with white saddles and bar tape. One still is in white. I had an accident with the other and tore the saddle up pretty badly. I was thrilled to have a good reason to replace the saddle and bar tape with black. I don't like the white bar tape because it does get dirty and I can never get it really clean. YMMV, but the white ensemble always makes me feel a little "Sally Starr"ish.
237179
OMG.... I haven't thought about Sally Star in decades. I was glued to the TV when she was on.
Really? Worrying about white tape? Come on DG, HTFU. Let your mechanic change it every night after you finish the stage.
I actually keep my Colnago Master Xl in white bar tape. It just looks too cool not to. Yes, it has to be cleaned more often and changed about three times a calendar year; a very small price to pay for keeping a piece of art in the proper frame. Would Van Gogh have allowed Starry Night to be framed in a neon green plastic frame? I think not. Would Matisse have allowed Dessert: Harmony in Red to be framed in a chrome metal frame? I think not. Should DG allow his Masi to be framed in anything but white? I think not.
My Z85 came with white tape and while it looked good (for about a week) I couldn't wait to change it to black. I like the look of the black much better. And it doesn't show any dirt.
I'm in the same boat as DG. New white bike with white bar tape and I'm wanting to go red because of the red (and black) accents on the bike. The bars are black, hoods are black and the saddle is white with red and black accents but the faces on the brakes are red. I've had the bike two weeks, riding it almost every day, and it's already starting to show the dirt around the hoods. On an older bike, I wouldn't care about the dirt, but I would at least like to get the bike broken in before it starts looking war torn.
Bob Ross
02-13-12, 11:51 AM
I will certainly concede that some bikes look best with white bar tape...but in my experience (two years using white bar tape on one of my bikes) the effort required to keep it looking attractive not only outweighs the benefits, but is for naught anyway: You just can't keep white tape white with normal use and anything less than the most obsessive and frequent cleaning routines.
In my mind white bar tape is in the same category as mustache wax.
lhbernhardt
02-13-12, 12:40 PM
General observation as the Amgen flew by me last year, and after many hours watching Versa on the sofa (not white), most of the pro's use white tape. 'Nuff said.
+1. REAL cyclists use white tape. Period.
I remember back in the 70's reading an article in one of the bike mags about Bernard Thevenet, who had just won the Tour that year. The article said that his white Tressostar cloth handlebar tape was changed after every stage!
I have always used white hbar tape. I change the tape before every major event, so for Paris-Brest-Paris, my bike had new white handlebar tape. It really stands out when it's new, and when it's not, nobody really cares. In the summer, I use different bar/stem/brake combo and saddle/post combo. The tape, rubber brake hoods, and saddle are all white. In the winter, it doesn't matter because you're mostly riding by yourself anyway, so the tape is dirty grey (unless I'm riding a major event on the winter equipment), the hoods are black, and the saddle is brown. Nobody really cares anyway; they're more concerned and insecure about how their own stuff matches, or doesn't!
I think of the color of handlebar tape as I think of the color of sails on a boat, or a wife's veil. White is standard. You only put on the black tape at funerals, after a friend has died, or if you're in mourning for your spouse/ride partner.
Luis
bigbadwullf
02-13-12, 12:44 PM
White LOOKS good. For a while ;). Went red and never looked back.
cehowardGS
02-13-12, 12:48 PM
So my new bike isn't here yet, and it comes with white bar tape, which looks super cool in the showroom, but will probably soil quickly. In my "Yay, I pulled the trigger" thread, I talked about swapping to black tape, and there were a couple of comments about cleaning white tape.
A quick google search produced, as is often the case, a plethora of strong opinion on both sides of the issue. No consensus. Easy to clean, PITA.
I actually really like the appearance of clean white tape. I don't mind a little extra maintenance if that's all it takes. I usually wear gloves when I ride, by the way.
So, in the interest of prompting a lively discussion which could fill the gap left by the end of the NFL season, let's hear it - do you like white tape or not?
If I don't swap the white tape for black (or red), I would have extra pie money. That's certainly something to consider. :)
IMO, white tape is SUPER COOL..
CHECK EM OUT!! ;)
http://www.cehoward.net/ironduo52.jpg.jpg
http://www.cehoward.net/presty1.jpg
On my motorcycles, I go with white wheels, again, super cool..;)
nightrider uk
02-13-12, 01:04 PM
White bar tape makes you go faster.
bigbadwullf
02-13-12, 01:10 PM
Dammit. I'm switching back now...
missjean
02-13-12, 03:27 PM
No, I don't like white tape. More effort than I would ever want to spend to keep clean. I stick with my red bar tape. Red makes you go faster.
cehowardGS
02-13-12, 04:00 PM
Dammit. I'm switching back now...
They say "a hint to the wise is sufficient" ;)
cehowardGS
02-13-12, 04:03 PM
No, I don't like white tape. More effort than I would ever want to spend to keep clean. I stick with my red bar tape. Red makes you go faster.
True, but it also written in the "Speed Scrolls", that red, white and black, are all fast colors, and will give the wearer extra speed.. Trust me, I saw it written, and I experienced it!! ;)
CACycling
02-13-12, 04:37 PM
White reflects light so you'll have to overcome that resistance. Black absorbs light and will actually pull you along. The sunnier the day, the more these effects can be felt.
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