Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - Shogun on CL
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02-14-12, 12:17 AM
Looking to get my first bike and stumbled upon this.
The seller was looking for around 240.
Also would any one be able to gauge the size of this? Poster didn't really post much info.
I'm 5'9 and was hoping this would fit.
02-14-12, 04:01 AM
The Shogun looks to be an entry level model, to me. Of course I am no expert in Bicycle Quality (http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/FREE_SITE_1/FREE_SITE_6_BICYCLE_QUALITY.htm). As for will the bicycle fit (http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/Site%20Contents/Bicycle_Basics/Buying_Vintage_Bicycles/Bicycle_Buying_4_RiskFactor_1_Page.htm) you, it will be pretty close but I cannot say for sure.
As for the value of the bicycle, determining Vintage Bicycle Value (http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/FREE_SITE_VALUE/VALUE_1_Start.htm) is a very complex thing. Time of year, size of bicycle, location of the bike and other things, some that have nothing to do with the bike itself, will impact final value.
In your case, decide for yourself if the bike fits, is in good condition, shows no major frame damage issues (http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/FREE_SITE_1/FREE_SITE_11_Frame_Fork_Prep_1.htm), then the price is not horrible, buy you might want to shoot for about a hundred dollars less than asking price.
Hope that is a help.
02-14-12, 07:12 AM
Tough to do from a distance but let me try. I'm 5'9 and that would fit me. I can ride 54 to 58 with stem adjustments. I would put that bike in my sweet spot.
At that price you won't want to sink a lot of extra in so you will have to ride it to see if it fits. Bar end shifters and no turkey levers suggest above an entry level to me. Shogun's are nice bikes, under appreciated. I agree the price should be $150 and up to $200 if it is ready to ride (recently lubed).
This appears to be a circa 1975-1977 model with first generation Shimano 600 derailleurs. The wheels appear to have 27" aluminum rims with quick release hubs. The crankset is cotterless but I can't tell if it's swaged or not. The bad news is the stamped rear droputs. This indicates the rear triangle and fork are almost certainly hi-tensile steel. The main triangle could be hi-tensile too, or possibly plain gauge CrMo. Given the lack of a tubing decal, it's probably the former. Assuming I'm correct about the era, this bicycle would have sat around the cusp between entry level and mid-range. Unless this is a really hot market, the price is too high. In my area, this would sit about $175, assuming the mechanical condition is as good as the cosmetics.
As for the size, it appears to be about 56cm/22". This is a usually good fit for an average proportioned 5'9" person.
02-14-12, 11:36 PM
Size wise I have to agree this bike looks to be a about 56cm which should be good for most people 5'6 to 5'10. Also date wise from components it is little newer barcons and 600's if original date the bike 78-82. Combine this with the crank I would date the bike 78-79.
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