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Closed Office
02-22-12, 09:31 PM
Or maybe we should revamp the system while we're at it and start with 100 hours in a day. It would take a bit to get used to, but I'd prefer something like that.

Digital alarm clocks usually let you use 24 hour time, and I don't get a watch unless it does. I haven't been able to find a radio / cd type of alarm clock that has the option.

And it would be nice to get rid of daylight savings time too. Russia opted out of it this year. Hope that spreads. Actually I think they opted out of standard time, and just kept the dst.

I've had a few times when I've mixed up am and pm, one of them about an hour ago. (Interrupted sleeping pattern, and sometimes conk out in the afternoon on my days off.)

Fortunately nothing too drastic has gone wrong because of them. It would be nice to have one source of errors straightened out.

Edit, I've also done a lot of shift work. and had one time when I started off to work in the pm when it should have been the am.


MillCreek
02-22-12, 09:39 PM
I am a fan of the 24 hour clock, as I type this at 20:39 hours.

fishymamba
02-22-12, 09:43 PM
no


waynesworld
02-22-12, 10:31 PM
Yes.

UmneyDurak
02-22-12, 10:36 PM
Maybe.

UmneyDurak
02-22-12, 10:37 PM
:lol: Actually I prefer 24 hour clock, do like DST time thought, since I ride in the mornings.

Wordbiker
02-22-12, 11:29 PM
I dislike clocks in general, too demanding.

no1mad
02-23-12, 12:18 AM
About half the people I know were either in or related to people who are/were in the military. I personally prefer the 24 hour clock as it does away with one less variable when scheduling something.

I'm also in favor of abolishing the time change- pick one or the other.

LAriverRat
02-23-12, 01:47 AM
no

skijor
02-23-12, 03:24 AM
El No

RubenX
02-23-12, 04:34 AM
No. I prefer 12h with PM or AM by it's side. Many companies like to use 24h, specially when run by ex military. IMHO it just complicate things. On global corporations you already have to calculate local time for a gazillion of cities every time you gotta call somebody or make an incident report. On those situations, a time stamp is nothing without a location. It's complicated enough. Throw in daylight saving time and you get a situation where no one know what time it is.

ahsposo
02-23-12, 05:49 AM
"Strongly" prefer is a bit much. I like setting digital clocks to 24 hour time, think 24 hour analog clocks look stupid and I'm just fine on Zulu time.

jdon
02-23-12, 06:23 AM
24 hours in a day. Why would anyone count half way through, then start counting again?

catmandew52
02-23-12, 06:44 AM
When the French adopted (and made mandatory under penalty of death) the metric system during the French Revolution, they tried to impose a metric clock and a metric calender. IIRC it was a ten hour day and a 100 day year.
Napoleon scrapped the clock and calender, because it did not work. Roosters still crowed at dawn and the seasons changed when it was their time.

You can blame the Romans for the am, pm business. Before clocks and watches became everyday items, the day was divided into two halves, before noon (ante meridian) and after noon (post meridian). Night, was just night.

FunkyStickman
02-23-12, 08:18 AM
One of my friends does. He's weird. He always speaks the time in 24 hours, too. Always throws my wife for a loop.

bikebuddha
02-23-12, 08:27 AM
The 24 hour clock is ok, DST has to go. I simply hate it staying light out in the summer to almost 22:00.

MillCreek
02-23-12, 08:32 AM
A lot of people who work in 24/7 occupations, such as the military or healthcare, are trained to use the 24 hour clock. I did not until I started working in emergency medical services, and had to start charting that way.

jsharr
02-23-12, 08:35 AM
Clocks should have two times on them. Almost late and late.

AllenG
02-23-12, 08:39 AM
I prefer true solar time, but the watches are pricy.

pgoat
02-23-12, 08:46 AM
Clocks should have two times on them. Mint and Jet Ski.

I always set my digital watch/HR monitor to 24 hr time. Also the digital clock on a desk hygrometer I use at work. And on my computer. Having said that I am fine with an old-school analog watch dial. Rolex fans know that the Explorer II has an extra ostentatious (imo) hand to indicate AM/PM (http://www.melrosejewelers.com/rolex-explorer-II.htm), ostensibly for spelunking, space travel, extended LSD trips and the like.

http://www.rolex.com/sites/all/img/basel2011/html/the-new-explorer-ii-legendary-legibility.jpg

Captain Blight
02-23-12, 10:09 AM
I prefer the 24-hour clock. If we had to decimalize, I could learn to use the 'kilosecond' as a replacement for the hour and the 'centisecond' as a replacement for the minute... but I wouldn't like it, I think, and would probably always be doing conversions in my head.

waynesworld
02-23-12, 02:20 PM
No. I prefer 12h with PM or AM by it's side. Many companies like to use 24h, specially when run by ex military. IMHO it just complicate things. On global corporations you already have to calculate local time for a gazillion of cities every time you gotta call somebody or make an incident report. On those situations, a time stamp is nothing without a location. It's complicated enough. Throw in daylight saving time and you get a situation where no one know what time it is.

24 hr time is, IMHO, much better when you are working on a global scale. Simplifies things, because you don't have to think about AM/PM when someone in Nepal says it is 1900. If they say it is 7, now that is confusing.

Closed Office
02-24-12, 08:53 AM
About half the people I know were either in or related to people who are/were in the military. I personally prefer the 24 hour clock as it does away with one less variable when scheduling something.

I'm also in favor of abolishing the time change- pick one or the other.

I agree. It's one of those Murphy's Laws things. If it can go wrong it will sooner or later. It was extremely important for the military that communications about time were clear, and the 24 hour clock helped that.

I'm rather maxed out in my life. Enough things go wrong as it is. You can't do too much without something messing up. A 24 hour clock helps me too.


24 hr time is, IMHO, much better when you are working on a global scale. Simplifies things, because you don't have to think about AM/PM when someone in Nepal says it is 1900. If they say it is 7, now that is confusing.

It is more simple. I've tried to make an airplane reservation with a company that didn't use the 24 hour clock. The agent I was on the phone with neglected to say AM of PM about 4 different times when giving me the connecting flights information. I had to ask for that each time. It is one more thing that can and does go wrong.

jsharr
02-24-12, 09:23 AM
seems like the 24 hour clocks should last twice as long as the 12 hour clocks.

trsidn
02-24-12, 09:31 AM
no

AEO
02-24-12, 10:08 AM
24hr clocks are less confusing at 12:00am and 12:00pm.


no joke, but our parking signs here use "12:01" instead of 12:00 just.

no motor?
02-24-12, 10:09 AM
No, but I'd like to do away with DST. I still haven't found a way to explain it to the cats that they're going to have to wait another hour for their dinner, and doing that in the 24 hour format wouldn't help.

x136
02-24-12, 10:13 AM
I use an 8 hour clock. It splits the day into three periods: Early Day (-000 to -759), Day (000 to 759) and Late Day (+000 to +759). Easy.

Second favorite is the 168-hour clock.

bigbenaugust
02-24-12, 11:03 AM
I prefer 24h time...

... but instead of abolishing DST, can we stay on it all the time and get rid of Standard time?

waynesworld
02-24-12, 11:22 AM
I prefer 24h time...

... but instead of abolishing DST, can we stay on it all the time and get rid of Standard time?

Thank you!

SingingSabre
02-24-12, 02:19 PM
... but instead of abolishing DST, can we stay on it all the time and get rid of Standard time?

Doesn't matter to me, I'm in AZ. :p

I'm 24hr clock compatible, but I prefer my AM and PM.

dstrong
02-24-12, 03:14 PM
For those who think the 24 hour clock is confusing, try "bell time". The day is broken into 6, 4 hour "watches" (mid, morning, forenoon, afternoon, evening (or dogs) and first) beginning at 0000 (midnight). Bells are rung on the hour and half-hour...so you have to know both the number of bells as well as the watch to know the time.

We use both bell time and the 24 hour clock when I was in Sea Scouts...some never got bell time.

gitarzan
02-24-12, 04:28 PM
I like 12 hour clocks. You know, Fahrenheit time.

RubenX
02-24-12, 04:32 PM
24 hr time is, IMHO, much better when you are working on a global scale. Simplifies things, because you don't have to think about AM/PM when someone in Nepal says it is 1900. If they say it is 7, now that is confusing.

If it's 7:35AM, people say 7:35... they never say "seven hundred and thirty five". The 24h scheme only simplifies the PM, not the AM. Not to mention they sometimes use their local time and sometimes uses zulu.

waynesworld
02-24-12, 04:43 PM
If it's 7:35AM, people say 7:35... they never say "seven hundred and thirty five". The 24h scheme only simplifies the PM, not the AM. Not to mention they sometimes use their local time and sometimes uses zulu.

Agreed, somewhat. If it is a standard across the organization, then that's it. Since that is usually impossible in the civilian world then yes, only does it help with PM. If everyone would do it, though, that wouldn't be a problem.

Who uses ZULU time?

RubenX
02-24-12, 04:58 PM
Agreed, somewhat. If it is a standard across the organization, then that's it. Since that is usually impossible in the civilian world then yes, only does it help with PM. If everyone would do it, though, that wouldn't be a problem.


Agreed. Problem is, people don't always do it. If it's a planned meeting and/or they are in the middle of their day, then yes, it gets done. But when you call your on-call guy at *his* 3am, he's barely coherent, let alone using standardized corporate time.



Who uses ZULU time?


The servers, UK, Portugal, Egypt and like a dozen African countries.

waynesworld
02-24-12, 05:51 PM
...



The servers, UK, Portugal, Egypt and like a dozen African countries.

Well, I get why countries in that time zone would use it, but who else? And Egypt? You sure about that?

MillCreek
02-24-12, 05:53 PM
If it's 7:35AM, people say 7:35... they never say "seven hundred and thirty five". The 24h scheme only simplifies the PM, not the AM. Not to mention they sometimes use their local time and sometimes uses zulu.

That is why you say 0735 for 7:35 AM and 1935 for 7:35 PM. I always say the leading zero for times before 1000 hours.

triumph.1
02-24-12, 05:57 PM
No, but I'd like to do away with DST.

This works^. I hate DST and since I can tell if it's day or night I don't have an issue with 7:30 am or 7:30 pm.

RubenX
02-24-12, 05:59 PM
Well, I get why countries in that time zone would use it, but who else? And Egypt? You sure about that?

Not really... I googled it and it came up. It might have been BS.

Sixty Fiver
02-24-12, 06:00 PM
Have been using 24h clocks here for a long time, 12h clocks annoy the hell out of me.

waynesworld
02-24-12, 08:39 PM
Not really... I googled it and it came up. It might have been BS.

I doubt that. If you can't believe the interwebs, who can you believe :)

waynesworld
02-24-12, 08:40 PM
Have been using 24h clocks here for a long time, 12h clocks annoy the hell out of me.

Ah. A man after my own heart.

BarracksSi
02-25-12, 07:44 PM
At a Marine Corps birthday ball recently, a long-retired Master Gunnery Sergeant had a few moments to himself when a young woman came up to him.

She introduced herself, and they started chatting, just small talk. She looked the medals on his dress blues and the weathered skin of his cheek and thought, my goodness, he must have been through a lot in his years in the Corps. She asked about his years as a Marine, and he recounted a few moments from his time in Vietnam. From the tone of his voice, she began to wonder if he was still serious about his life and career.

She finally asked, "I'm sorry, but you sound so serious, I wonder if you have any fun anymore. I can't help but ask, ... when was the last time you had sex?"

He said, "Oh, that was 1959."

She gasped, "1959? That's a long time ago!"

He looked at his watch and snickered, "Well, it's only 2130 now!"

fordmanvt
02-25-12, 11:16 PM
I might move to the equator just so that the sun rises at (almost) 0600 everyday. Here in VT we swing from just under 9 hours to up to 15.5 hours of daylight.