Foo - Daytona 500

Is this like... the beginning of Monday Night NASCAR?:eek:

Why didn't they race yesterday? Don't windshield wipers work at 200mph?

Why didn't they race yesterday? Don't windshield wipers work at 200mph?

Yeah, I thought Rain-X was a sponsor...

These wimps couldn't handle Paris-Robaix.

Why didn't they race yesterday? Don't windshield wipers work at 200mph?

you have something like 750hp in a 2t RWD car that has no TCS, ABS, AYC or any modern computer control systems to speak of. heck, those things must use carburetors too.

Officially, it's in the best interest of driver safety. Unofficially? The rain obscures the sponsors logos, robbing them of free air time and the rain could degrade the signals from the dash cams that they stream to premium content subscribers.

you have something like 750hp in a 2t RWD car that has no TCS, ABS, AYC or any modern computer control systems to speak of. heck, those things must use carburetors too.
Not to mention that the last time I saw a NASCAR race*, the cars didn't even have functioning headlights.

*Haven't watched any network broadcast TV since the switch to Digital TV. <--Dumbest idea evar.

I was just at the Toyota dealer getting an oil change and this was on the TV.....what a BORE!!!!! I guess many would say the same about the Tour e France. One thing was kind of funny, a car came in for pit service, the crew didn't get nuts on one of the front wheels, which came off as he pulled out of the pit. Then a car coming into the pit slammed into the car without the wheel....Haaaaaaahaaa! Over all, I'm NOT a fan.

those things must use carburetors too.

Nope, EFI.



Not to mention that the last time I saw a NASCAR race*, the cars didn't even have functioning headlights.

Still don't.

God doesn't like nascar, or Montoya.

So that's what happens if a jet dryer gets hit....

Nope, EFI.




Still don't.

says "carburetor"
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/icons/news/story?id=3473499

So that's what happens if a jet dryer gets hit....

that was pretty interesting... although I would think that Purple Power would be more effective than Tide at cleaning up the roadway.

that was pretty interesting... although I would think that Purple Power would be more effective than Tide at cleaning up the roadway.

Purple Power or Simple Green? Inquiring minds want to know...

Goo Gone

says "carburetor"
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/icons/news/story?id=3473499

That article is from 2008. NASCAR says Fuel Injection (http://www.nascar.com/news/111018/inside-nascar-fuel-injection-replaces-carburetor/index.html).

you have something like 750hp in a 2t RWD car that has no TCS, ABS, AYC or any modern computer control systems to speak of. heck, those things must use carburetors too.

If these guys can do it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KycZk1M7g24


The rain obscures the sponsors logos, robbing them of free air time and the rain could degrade the signals from the dash cams that they stream to premium content subscribers.

Most likely explanation. :lol:

Yeah, but everyone knows that bikes don't hydroplane...

God doesn't like nascar, or Montoya.


No kidding: http://www.nascar.com/video/post-race/highlights/120227/cup-day-high-eight/index.html

If these guys can do it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KycZk1M7g24

So the reason he has the track all to himself is because all the other racers decided it was crazy to race under these conditions? :rolleyes: That's why they are indoors watching him on monitors.

Superbikes are beautiful. He's handling bobbles that would take down most riders in an instant.

So the reason he has the track all to himself is because all the other racers decided it was crazy to race under these conditions? :rolleyes: That's why they are indoors watching him on monitors.

Superbikes are beautiful. He's handling bobbles that would take down most riders in an instant.

That particular clip was of qualifying. They do race in wet.

I went to bed before the Columbian taxicab driver blew up the jet-dryer.

Yes, the cars are using fuel injection this year.

Because I was flipping between the 500 and another stupid show, I missed the reason for the dryer to be out.
Why was the dryer on the track?

Because I was flipping between the 500 and another stupid show, I missed the reason for the dryer to be out.
Why was the dryer on the track?

Most likely blowing debris off from a wreck.

That particular clip was of qualifying. They do race in wet.

The rain slows them down, but not by as much as you'd think.

Formula 1 races in the rain, and they don't have headlights on those cars. The only light is a single tail light.

Although the rain might make it harder to read the ads, it would make the races last even longer, which would lead to even more air time?

Perhaps the real reason is that NASCAR doesn't want the expense of bringing intermediates and "full wets" to every race? In F1 there is a time limit on races, but with NASCAR I assume they always try to go the full distance, which would take even longer in the rain. That would be a lot of extra rubber to bring to the track.

I have tried to watch NASCAR, but it seems like its too much about waiting for the next crash. You get the feeling that the pace car leads more laps than any one driver.

Formula 1 races in the rain.

I have tried to watch NASCAR, but it seems like its too much about waiting for the next crash. You get the feeling that the pace car leads more laps than any one driver.

It could have something to do with the high-banked ovals. I imagine that if you can't keep traction on one of those, things could get loose quickly.

Well, last night's race certainly would have supported your theory. ;)

That article is from 2008. NASCAR says Fuel Injection (http://www.nascar.com/news/111018/inside-nascar-fuel-injection-replaces-carburetor/index.html).

well, that's news to me!

do you think they'll add the rest of the electronics in 80 years?

well, that's news to me!

do you think they'll add the rest of the electronics in 80 years?

Let's not rush things, mkay. BTW, Siu posted this elsewhere, but I love it.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r162/jsharr/daytona.png

nascar claims they would race in the rain at the 2 road tracks. They even show up at the tracks with rain tires but have yet to use them :(

Remember the Carl Edwards windshield wiper thingee a few years back? That was hilarious. Part of the difficulty versus open wheel open cockpit versus Nascar in the rain is the build up of moisture on the inside of the windshield, making visibilty even worse. they need narrower rain tires and lots of downforce to try and run in the rain. Would be cool to see Nascar come up with a rain aero package and tires, but I doubt it will ever happen.

And in all honesty, how exciting is F1 in the rain. Lots of slipping and sliding, no real racing and when it gets heavy enought, they put out the safety car or halt racing there too.

you have something like 750hp in a 2t RWD car that has no TCS, ABS, AYC or any modern computer control systems to speak of. heck, those things must use carburetors too.

It's a restrictor plate track, so it's like 430hp or something. And they started using EFI in the 2012 season. I have no idea how I know this.

well, that's news to me!

do you think they'll add the rest of the electronics in 80 years?

Next thing you know someones going to ask them to turn right. Can you imagine the confusion that would cause?

The rain slows them down, but not by as much as you'd think.

Umm yes. What is your point?

Between the weight, tires, and tracks raced on, NASCAR cannot run in the rain. They have a program for the 2nd tier Cup that can run road courses in the rain though.

Whenever they've tried to run in the rain on ovals, it's chaos. These types of cars cannot be controlled in those conditions.

Formula 1 cars have better tires, and weigh at most 1/3 of what a "stock" car does. They run in the rain because it's a completely different platform.


NASCAR converted to EFI this year. Prior to this it was engine driven fuel pumps and carburetors.


As someone that once worked on military helicopter engines (it looks like the jet dryers use T58s (judging by their nose cone)) I would definitely have gone with Simple Green. Of course this last bit is just opinion lol.

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God doesn't like nascar, or Montoya.

His Son is NASCAR's number 1 fan, apparently.

Umm yes. What is your point?

That they have the skill and equipment to race in the rain.

Remember the Carl Edwards windshield wiper thingee a few years back? That was hilarious. Part of the difficulty versus open wheel open cockpit versus Nascar in the rain is the build up of moisture on the inside of the windshield, making visibilty even worse. they need narrower rain tires and lots of downforce to try and run in the rain. Would be cool to see Nascar come up with a rain aero package and tires, but I doubt it will ever happen.

And in all honesty, how exciting is F1 in the rain. Lots of slipping and sliding, no real racing and when it gets heavy enought, they put out the safety car or halt racing there too.

I'm voting for a nascar ice race on a frozen pond up north in the middle of winter. :D