Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - Strava Users?? Clydesdales/Athenas Group?

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avance
05-13-12, 04:55 PM
something happened to my strava account. all of my activties are gone!


ChrisM2097
05-13-12, 05:07 PM
Have you contacted their tech support?

avance
05-13-12, 05:10 PM
not yet. everytime i log in, it says i have zero activties like a new profile.


avance
05-13-12, 05:27 PM
Some how I managed to create a new account on two seperate devices(phone and tablet) without any knowledge using my facebook account.. Weird stuff...

*edit* I had to change my password on my account and everything seems to be normal as long as I login using my email/password and not my FB account.

troutbreath
05-26-12, 10:53 AM
Here is the really amazing thing about Strava ...

There is a hill that leads out to the courses I usually ride. Most of the locals drive out to this shopping center to meet, but I ride from my home to that starting point, and that gets me a few extra miles. And, to get out there, I have to climb this hill. It's not a big hill, or particularly steep. It starts off with a 5% grade for about .3 miles, but then it flattens, but never really seems to stop. All winter the wind was blowing down this thing, too. I complained to my wife about it after every ride, and every time we drove up it. I hate that hill.

Then, I noticed that someone set up a Stava segment on that first .3 mile segment. Why in the world would you do that? It's awful. But, it's there, and now I'm aware of it.

And, every time I hit that hill, I speed up. I push myself to get into that top ranking area (I'm not going to get #1 -- currently #5 and would have to drop 6 seconds to get to #4). Strava has changed that hill from "gah" to "grrrrr".

diverkiwi
05-28-12, 10:27 AM
Just joined the Strava group.
It'll be good to see the other riders out there!
Good riding everyone!

andyman1970
05-31-12, 07:36 PM
Joined as well - been using Strava for the second half of May. No complaints here.

Mr Sinister
05-31-12, 11:15 PM
Have you contacted their tech support?

If you cleared all the rides from your phone it can also clear them from Strava, IF you do not pick the right settings. I did this to my earlier rides.

Mr Sinister
05-31-12, 11:22 PM
I was noticing something on Strava... Some people take it too seriously and will even cheat to try and get a KOM.

I noticed a couple of them where people were doing about 40 mph uphill... Its like WTF people, its only do what you can and then try to beat your own record. I even saw one where someone went 50 mph (49.9mph) on a flat area, after having trouble getting up the hill just a mile before (8.? mph).

Hey if you get a KOM I am glad for you... Just don't cheat to have your name on the top of the list, as you are only hurting yourself.

bigfred
05-31-12, 11:59 PM
I was noticing something on Strava... Some people take it too seriously and will even cheat to try and get a KOM.

I noticed a couple of them where people were doing about 40 mph uphill... Its like WTF people, its only do what you can and then try to beat your own record. I even saw one where someone went 50 mph (49.9mph) on a flat area, after having trouble getting up the hill just a mile before (8.? mph).

Hey if you get a KOM I am glad for you... Just don't cheat to have your name on the top of the list, as you are only hurting yourself.

This "cheating" isn't always intentional. If you're gps looses it's satellite reception, when it re-establishes your position it updates instantly and can post unrealistic speeds.

TrojanHorse
06-01-12, 12:36 AM
I was noticing something on Strava... Some people take it too seriously and will even cheat to try and get a KOM.

I noticed a couple of them where people were doing about 40 mph uphill... Its like WTF people, its only do what you can and then try to beat your own record. I even saw one where someone went 50 mph (49.9mph) on a flat area, after having trouble getting up the hill just a mile before (8.? mph).

Hey if you get a KOM I am glad for you... Just don't cheat to have your name on the top of the list, as you are only hurting yourself.

Report the segment - works like a charm... I got rid of a few folks with random 40 mph times up a hill I do all the time. I know there are plenty of people who can WASTE me up a hill, but 40? give me a break. You start to recognize the names of the fast dudes in your neighborhood, and if they're 10 mph slower than the KOM something's awry.

bigfred
06-01-12, 01:34 AM
You also have to remember that the Strava software requires that you only complete 75% of a sefment to recieve credit for it. They then calculate your "average" based on the length of the segment. I've recieved credit for segments significantly shorter and longer than what I actually did. Any out and return legs are particularly prone to these errors.

Report them as THorse suggested. They'll get to them. Usually takes a few days.

Jaegur
06-01-12, 07:55 AM
I just joined!

Leastbest
06-01-12, 08:11 AM
I joined but hope after a year or so not to be in the Clydesdale Strava Group but the 0/50 instead.

TrojanHorse
06-01-12, 08:23 AM
You also have to remember that the Strava software requires that you only complete 75% of a sefment to recieve credit for it. They then calculate your "average" based on the length of the segment. I've recieved credit for segments significantly shorter and longer than what I actually did. Any out and return legs are particularly prone to these errors.

Really? I've never noticed that... I have noticed that sometimes I can't get Strava to admit I did a segment when I know full well I did it.

So if you do less than the full segment does that make your time shorter / faster?

How bizarre - what's the value in doing less than the full segment and then getting KOM for your efforts. Weird.

avance
06-01-12, 09:54 AM
I did a known segment yesterday. I busted my a$$ pedaling between 19-22mph for the 3 mile stretch and then it tells me I didn't complete any segments.

Tuesday night, I did a known downhill segment with a buddy. I was doing 24-26mph over the .7 mile stretch and left my buddy behind. It said I only did 14.5 mph and took me 2:52 to complete. My buddy finished at 19.7mph and 2:06. This isn't the first time there have been major discrepancies between my strava app and his strava app. We did another known segment together and he finished the segment about 10 seconds before I did. It said I beat him by a 3 seconds and averaged .3mph faster then him, even though we rode next to each other the entire way till I slowed to get a drink.

Mr Sinister
06-01-12, 11:44 AM
This "cheating" isn't always intentional. If you're gps looses it's satellite reception, when it re-establishes your position it updates instantly and can post unrealistic speeds.

I do agree with this, but when your ride states that is was 128.2 miles long. Riding time was 7:06:55, and total time was 277:47:51, I think there is a major problem with your ride. That is almost 11 straight days that was left on. Plus you were using an Iphone. I think you might have left it in a vehicle plugged in. Now your top speed was 57.8 mph in a relatively flat area ( its about 8 miles from my house, I know it well).

Here is a section of his top speed. Now notice its an average of 37.6 mph. The only place it slows down is at the set of lights. The other places where it drops down low are at intersections where people just jump out. Its clearly a vehicle going down the road.

http://app.strava.com/rides/9206362#134389026

I just find it funny how the data can be this bad.

Mr Sinister
06-01-12, 11:45 AM
And yes I don't know if this was an honest mistake or not. I just want to be fair to others. Also NO I did not have any of the KOMs he took down.

bigfred
06-03-12, 02:27 AM
I do agree with this, but when your ride states that is was 128.2 miles long. Riding time was 7:06:55, and total time was 277:47:51, I think there is a major problem with your ride. That is almost 11 straight days that was left on. Plus you were using an Iphone. I think you might have left it in a vehicle plugged in. Now your top speed was 57.8 mph in a relatively flat area ( its about 8 miles from my house, I know it well).

Here is a section of his top speed. Now notice its an average of 37.6 mph. The only place it slows down is at the set of lights. The other places where it drops down low are at intersections where people just jump out. Its clearly a vehicle going down the road.

http://app.strava.com/rides/9206362#134389026

I just find it funny how the data can be this bad.

So, report it to Strava and they'll pull it.

We also have at least one coach here who uses a unit mounted on the handlebars of his motorcycle. Not just for motor pacing some of his athletes, but, also setting courses and segments for them. It's easy to pick out his stats when he maintains a steady 30mph uphill.

All I can do is recommend that you not get to worked up about any of it.

bigfred
06-03-12, 02:37 AM
Really? I've never noticed that... I have noticed that sometimes I can't get Strava to admit I did a segment when I know full well I did it.

So if you do less than the full segment does that make your time shorter / faster?

How bizarre - what's the value in doing less than the full segment and then getting KOM for your efforts. Weird.

I've suffered the same bizzar thing about it not recognizing that I've completed a segment. I've also recieved credit for a segment I did not complete because I missed out an out/n/return leg but completed 75% of it. And the KOM of a segment I created is owned by someone who hasn't completed it either. Meanwhile, there are several of us with really slow averages on a segment or two, because we include a couple km out and return that wasn't originally in the segment. It still recognized that we've completed the segment but you get no credit for the extra kilomters you've covered.

I've given up sending messages to strava about the issues. The last one I did send, I recommended that they really needed to tighten up on the criteria that is used to determine completion of a segment. Maybe that's why we're not getting recognized for completing segments that we know we've ridden.

With regard to the averages on missing out and returns. Yes. If the missed out and return equals less than 25% of the segment. You get credit for completing the segment per clock time. But, they calculate the average speed as though you completed the entire segment, not the distance "you" road.

There are quite a few other anomolies on Strava. Look at their "power" readings. I see my power fluctuating madly on a climb that I completed at a steady cadence, without ever coasting, accelerating, or decelerating. How can that be? Zero power one moment, 750+watts the next. Shoulder shrug.

Moctavius
06-03-12, 09:37 AM
This n00b is IN!

Brando_T.
06-14-12, 07:01 AM
Yesterday I saw my first spraypainted line on the road with KOM marked below it.

And then I proceeded to grab 34th out of 34 places. YES!.

Actually I was just happy to get to the top without walking.

volosong
06-14-12, 07:28 AM
Really? I've never noticed that... I have noticed that sometimes I can't get Strava to admit I did a segment when I know full well I did it.

About two months ago, a lot of my times for one particular segment dissapeared one day. The rides are still in the system, but my times on that one particular segment no longer show up on the segment page. Bummer! I was KOM for a long time until some youngster from out of the area came up and took it away. Don't mind that, but would like to see all my times. I'm thinking of just deleting the whole ride, and then uploading it anew.

TrojanHorse
06-14-12, 10:32 AM
About two months ago, a lot of my times for one particular segment dissapeared one day. The rides are still in the system, but my times on that one particular segment no longer show up on the segment page. Bummer! I was KOM for a long time until some youngster from out of the area came up and took it away. Don't mind that, but would like to see all my times. I'm thinking of just deleting the whole ride, and then uploading it anew.

I wonder if somebody flagged your ride to get ride of it.

Reupload and see. :)

IthaDan
06-14-12, 01:02 PM
My phone died :( relegated to flip phone hell with no GPS.

Brando_T.
06-19-12, 06:52 AM
Strava gets hit by a lawsuit, regarding a guy who went too hard on a downhill segment and died:

http://inrng.com/2012/06/strava-lawsuit-california/

TrojanHorse
06-19-12, 09:07 AM
So his obsession is somebody else's fault?

Classic California/US mentality.

Chaco
06-19-12, 09:45 AM
I wouldn't call this a "classic California" mentality -- rather a broad generalization don't you think?
That said, I agree the premise is ridiculous. On top of that, Strava has something on the segments where, if they're designated as "dangerous", you can't see the leaderboard. I don't know if this particular segment is marked that way, but even if it wasn't, it's your own damned fault if you don't use common sense on a descent.

ChrisM2097
06-19-12, 10:10 AM
Strava gets hit by a lawsuit, regarding a guy who went too hard on a downhill segment and died:

http://inrng.com/2012/06/strava-lawsuit-california/

This has nothing to do with Clydesdales / Athenas on Strava. Let's not hijack this thread.

The general discussion is over here: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/826349-family-sues-Strava-over-death

CraigB
06-19-12, 10:49 AM
I don't know that much about Strava, but I gather one of its raisons d'etre is to compare performance figures, correct? Given that, is there any reason to join the C/A group if there aren't any other members in my area, who ride the same routes I do?

bigfred
06-19-12, 12:57 PM
I don't know that much about Strava, but I gather one of its raisons d'etre is to compare performance figures, correct? Given that, is there any reason to join the C/A group if there aren't any other members in my area, who ride the same routes I do?

A few reaons for joining would be:

1. If seeing other clydes out doing rides, longer or shorter, is going to motivate you to get out and ride.

and

2. If recieving encouragement, in the form of "kudos" and comments, is going to help you in any way.

or

3. If you'd like to encourage some of the other clydes for pursuing what we all enjoy.

There isn't another clyde member anywhere near me. I still enjoy seeing what some of the other contributors on the Clyde forum are up to.

chasm54
06-19-12, 01:10 PM
I don't know that much about Strava, but I gather one of its raisons d'etre is to compare performance figures, correct? Given that, is there any reason to join the C/A group if there aren't any other members in my area, who ride the same routes I do?

There's a BF group that is not forum-specific, so you may find that there are non-Clyde members in your area...

Brando_T.
06-19-12, 01:23 PM
Yes, I like to see what other Clydes are up to, even if I can't match a Strava username to a BF username.

I'm Dave Pep by the way.

vesteroid
06-19-12, 02:25 PM
oddly enough I finally uploaded my rides to the clyde group and promptly found another local guy.

On top of that, I now have some reason to try and beat segments I find.

I am not sure I will continue uploading to it, and I already do to garmin connect and trainingpeaks, 3 is a bit much but I might continue just to compare and improve.

ChrisM2097
06-19-12, 02:40 PM
oddly enough I finally uploaded my rides to the clyde group and promptly found another local guy.

On top of that, I now have some reason to try and beat segments I find.

I am not sure I will continue uploading to it, and I already do to garmin connect and trainingpeaks, 3 is a bit much but I might continue just to compare and improve.

For me, everything gets uploaded to Strava. I rarely upload to Garmin Connect or MapMyRide. I have yet to really use RideWithGPS.com.

There's a couple people that Strava says that I've ridden with twice - but I have no idea who they are, nor when I rode with them.

I occasionally try to get Personal Records on certain segments, but not very often. I guess I'm just not a very competitive person. As long as I'm not dead-last, I'm OK. I use it mainly to track progress and log miles & elevation gain.

bigfred
06-19-12, 02:56 PM
For me, everything gets uploaded to Strava. I rarely upload to Garmin Connect or MapMyRide. I have yet to really use RideWithGPS.com.

There's a couple people that Strava says that I've ridden with twice - but I have no idea who they are, nor when I rode with them.

I occasionally try to get Personal Records on certain segments, but not very often. I guess I'm just not a very competitive person. As long as I'm not dead-last, I'm OK. I use it mainly to track progress and log miles & elevation gain.


I believe all you have to do to "ride with someone" is complete the same course +/- 25% on the same day or within a few hours of each other. Organized "event" rides have resulted in me "riding with" folks I've never met, as has completing popular loops that see lots of weekend traffic.

Brando_T.
06-19-12, 05:53 PM
I still use RidewithGPS to plan routes.

ChargerDawg
06-24-12, 09:55 PM
Ok so I joined.

I need to get strava to play nice with Cyclemeter, Cyclemeter keeps kicking out with strava running in the background.... This may be a temporay issue until I decide if I can upload/download gpx files...

treebound
07-27-12, 09:07 AM
We won't talk about my riding and lack thereof this year, but joined as a kick in the rump motivational tool.

Question: if I'm on a ride that happens to include several local segments, will Strava show me as riding those segments? Or do I have to start/stop on each one and record them as a separate ride? Just curious.

magohn
07-27-12, 09:14 AM
A little OT but possibly the best place to ask:

Has anyone noticed that the 'Max Speed' in Garmin connect has gone goofy? Recently,my max speeds have been 2000mph+ !!! But in Strava, the speeds are correct.

Anyone else or perhaps just me :(

EDIT: Found out its a website "known issue" since the last update:

https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?t=29139

:)

CJ C
07-27-12, 09:43 AM
We won't talk about my riding and lack thereof this year, but joined as a kick in the rump motivational tool.

Question: if I'm on a ride that happens to include several local segments, will Strava show me as riding those segments? Or do I have to start/stop on each one and record them as a separate ride? Just curious.


no you dont have to start or stop anything just ride, when you get home Strava looks at the .gxp uploaded file and data points and says hey he covered this segment in x amount of time so let give him a ranking of 151 out of 157.

CJ C
07-27-12, 09:47 AM
Has anyone noticed that the 'Max Speed' in Garmin connect has gone goofy? Recently,my max speeds have been 2000mph+ !!! But in Strava, the speeds are correct.

Anyone else or perhaps just me


Slacker my garmin has a max speed of 2701.32mph :)

from the looks of it its off two decimal places. Garmin fixed my previous two rides but the last one is still all goofed. I actually thought it was the Garmin unit being off and was going to reset it.

treebound
07-27-12, 09:52 AM
Thanks, I think I'll plan on taking a short ride in the morning and include two or three nearby segments.

I've been motivated.

vesteroid
07-27-12, 09:56 AM
We won't talk about my riding and lack thereof this year, but joined as a kick in the rump motivational tool.

Question: if I'm on a ride that happens to include several local segments, will Strava show me as riding those segments? Or do I have to start/stop on each one and record them as a separate ride? Just curious.


Just ride, upload all your data and strava does the rest

magohn
07-27-12, 10:00 AM
Slacker my garmin has a max speed of 2701.32mph :)

from the looks of it its off two decimal places. Garmin fixed my previous two rides but the last one is still all goofed. I actually thought it was the Garmin unit being off and was going to reset it.

Me too - I was about to wipe my Garmin 705 - glad I checked! :)

CJ C
07-27-12, 10:38 AM
Me too - I was about to wipe my Garmin 705 - glad I checked! :)

i keep forgetting to wipe, and it was in my mind to do it tonight if the olympic opening ceremonies got boring. Glad you mentioned it and i read this tread as i have been wanting to try the virtual partner thing.

magohn
07-27-12, 11:01 AM
i keep forgetting to wipe, and it was in my mind to do it tonight if the olympic opening ceremonies got boring. Glad you mentioned it and i read this tread as i have been wanting to try the virtual partner thing.

Im not voting for wiping your Garmin, Im relieved I didnt have to wipe the Garmin. The issue is on the Garmin website not the device. :)