Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - What do I do with it?

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ill.clyde
03-09-12, 08:37 AM
So I have this bike:
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It's a 1997 Trek 6500.
The plan, as it stands right now, is to replace it with a new MTB (I'm WAY past due to replace it, and my oldest son is starting to MTB with his own Trek so I want to ride with him this spring/summer).
Anyway ... it's basically stock. So 14 years of use, without a major overhaul, etc.
I'd entertained the idea of converting it to a CX bike so I can get my feet wet in CX this fall, and as of right now, that's the leading idea.
But I'm wondering what else I could do with it.
I've considered making it an urban assault type cruiser kind of thing, putting some fat "slicks" on it for riding around town. Also contemplated turning it into a 1X7 just for kicks.
So really, I'm open to suggestions. I don't have a misses to answer to, so my only real limits are my budget (which isn't much).
The immediate plan is to strip the parts off, do a complete tear down and rebuilt, possibly sand it and give it a new paint job (again, cheap, though I'm contemplating seeing about getting it powdercoated).
So, the good thing is, my options are pretty wide open. And the bad thing, is my options are pretty wide open.
Thoughts? If you had a semi-blank canvass like this, what would you do?
Man, that's just about to become retro cool. Any anodized parts and you'd almost be there.
Judging by how far back you've got the seat, this might not work- but I've always wanted to take a 26" MTB with classic geometry and throw some drop bars on there as a sort of adventure touring type rig. Could work well for CX duty as well.
ill.clyde
03-09-12, 08:52 AM
It's funny ... as much as I want to replace it, I LOVE that bike :D
I'm definitely thinking about some drop bars ... one, just because, and two, for possible CX duty. Thinking I might have to put a much shorter stem on it though to accomplish that without being real stretched out while riding.
boy scout 161
03-09-12, 09:15 AM
You would have to figure out the fit geometery, but a rigid fork and Salsa woodchipper handlebars would be cool.
ill.clyde
03-09-12, 09:17 AM
Had contemplated going rigid on it ... and digging the woodchipper idea ...
and both get me closer to the CX idea ...
jethro56
03-09-12, 11:29 AM
Just mind sprinkling but what if you got a LHT frame-set for 26" wheels and used it as a donor?
Mr. Beanz
03-09-12, 01:14 PM
I'd go with fat slick and leave it as it is. Many times I wish I had a fat slick town bike to hit the town. Good for riding to fireworks shows etc. I have to ride my MTB but worry about tearing up the knobbies and a hassle to swap wheels again and again.
Seattle Forrest
03-09-12, 01:42 PM
I'm definitely thinking about some drop bars ... one, just because, and two, for possible CX duty. Thinking I might have to put a much shorter stem on it though to accomplish that without being real stretched out while riding.
You'll also probably have to replace the shifters to make this happen.
TrojanHorse
03-09-12, 02:31 PM
Heck, if you're that fond of it, leave it! It's good to have more than one rideable bike anyway, especially if they're set up for different purposes.
jeepseahawk
03-09-12, 02:35 PM
I made my '99 cannondale f300 into a single speed path bike, it turned out pretty cool.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/seahawks05/20110709095020.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/seahawks05/37b5dd3f.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/seahawks05/20110709095036.jpg
ill.clyde, I still have my '98 7000ZX. Just some maintenance and yours will be as good a mountain bike as most any non racer needs. The only upgrade I made to mine was the fork and it may've had it's own issues as my SiL recently found and bought the same bike and it's OEM Indy fork is just fine.
I run a dual pattern tire which works very well on technical trails in my area and isn't bad on pavement, if I remember not to lean into turns enough to move over onto the knobbies. ;)
Brad
ill.clyde
03-09-12, 03:54 PM
Jeep ... I like it! :D That's what I'm leaning toward at the moment ...
Brad ... there's something about those old Trek's, eh? Mainly it's an N+1 problem, of course ... I want something new, but don't want to get rid of my baby.
Right now I'm thinking I'm going to do a complete tear down and maintenance, possibly paint it, reassemble with some Kenda Kiniptions I found on Nashbar and convert it to a 1X7 for the spring/summer for use as a cruiser around town with my kids. Haven't decided if I'm going to make it a rigid, rebuild the stock shock or opt for a new one.
Of course pics to follow :)
funrover
03-09-12, 04:13 PM
I turned an old Trek 6500 into a SS MTB, I love it that way!
Mr Sinister
03-09-12, 06:31 PM
I made my '99 cannondale f300 into a single speed path bike, it turned out pretty cool.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/seahawks05/20110709095020.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/seahawks05/37b5dd3f.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/seahawks05/20110709095036.jpg
:love: That is one sexy b****!!! :love:
jeepseahawk
03-09-12, 08:31 PM
Wow, thanks for the compliments, was just trying to give him an idea. The bike was my first tear down and rebuild, it was fun to do.
ill.clyde
03-14-12, 10:14 AM
Well, the tear down has begun. Took off the bar ends last night (they will not be returning), pedals, cranks, bottle cages, wheels, tires, tubes ... holy dry rot on the inside of those tires.
Removed the front derailleur and the rear, but both are caught up in the chain right now (because I couldn't find my chain tool last night).
Anyway, the "plan" is still a bit undefined, but I'm definitely going to a 1X7 set up.
Then the plan is to get it back together asap, so I'll be waiting on paint/powdercoating and a decision on the front fork. Going to clean and repack the hubs as well.
A new seatpost, possibly a saddle, a new chain, tires, tubes, rim tape and grips are on the immediate replace list. Going to replace the F/R brake cables as well as the rear shift cable.
TrojanHorse
03-14-12, 12:48 PM
You can unscrew the cage for the FD and remove it from the chain, and the outside cover on the RD also probably unscrews (so you can replace the wheels) and you can get it off the chain that way.
Its worth doing to the RD just to clean it. Its amazing how much gunk gets in there.
ill.clyde
03-14-12, 12:59 PM
Yeah, gonna hit the bike shop on the way home to grab a chain tool, and the hardware store to get some degreaser, etc ... tonight will be cleaning for sure.
Still haven't completely ruled out a flat black rattle can paint job on this for the time being ... trying to decide how long I want to spend on this LOL
RichardGlover
03-15-12, 02:41 PM
IMO?
Add a rear rack. Replace the tires with fat slicks. Go with a rigid fork if it's in your budget.
Turn it into your around-town errand-runner.
You can carry a lot with a rear rack, some grocery panniers, and a milk crate lashed to the top of the rack.
If you want a winter beater, it can do that, too. Just put the knobbies back on before you start riding in the slush.
ill.clyde, A rack is an ideal addition, I've used mine with about 20 lbs., I wouldn't exceed that weight with my Blackburn rack. When I ordered my 7000 in '97 I specifically chose it for the ability to mount a rear rack, oddly the 8000 model and above weren't provided the braze-ons on the seat stay. Your yr/mod was also available without the Indy front fork (is yours a late '97?) so there's an outside chance Trek maybe able to supply one for you.
Brad
I do get some odd looks when I'm riding the trails with the rack. Or the grey hair?
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ill.clyde
03-16-12, 07:40 AM
Love all the ideas ... I probably won't run a rack just yet, and honestly for the life of me I can't remember if it has mounts for a rear rack.
It's currently almost entirely in pieces in my living room (a benefit to being single!) ... I need some WD40 to unstick the bolts on the stem and then disassembly will be complete.
I say put it back together and borrow it to a fellow clyde/athena that is looking to get into riding.
ill.clyde
03-18-12, 07:49 PM
So, the bike is stripped completely. Spent time this weekend on it, removed all the decals and sanded the frame, so it's ready for primer. Going to be out of town a few days, so paint will wait til then.
A few things ...
I'm thinking about replacing the headset. It's stock as is, nothing special at all. Seems like a reasonable slight upgrade.
I'm going to run the stock fork for now, with an eye toward either rebuilding the stock shock or going to a rigid fork in the future.
Also haven't ruled out replacing the cassette, depending on the condition of it when I pull it off the rim.
The major issue/hurdle is my crankset. Like the rest of the bike, it's stock, a 175mm Shimano MC-FC16, has a triple. However, after I removed it, it turns out the triple is all tied together. They're not separate rings. Cursory research basically tells me the crankset is nothing special, and finding a chainring for my planned 1X7 set up will be difficult if not impossible.
So it looks like I'm in the market for a single speed type crankset. Which will also mean replacing the bottom bracket.
Any tips on components? I don't want to spend a lot, but I also don't want to buy crap.
ill.clyde
03-19-12, 12:57 PM
Finding a crankset was easier than I thought ... AND it will work with my BB
http://www.jensonusa.com/Retrospec-3-PIECE-Cranks
44T in white :D
ill.clyde
03-29-12, 08:47 AM
Rebuild begins tonight :D
Daspydyr
03-29-12, 10:13 AM
And so another BF Clyde Athena Adventure begins! Stay tuned for more pictures and ride reports. Tom S., back to you at BF Central.
First I would tear it down and do a comprehensive rebuild to get it running nice and smooth, e.g new barrings, new chain, re-lube everything, etc. Once it is running smoothly, I would find whatever parts I wanted and put it together.* I would then disassemble it again, and paint it a high gloss light silver.
*List of parts I would buy:
• New chain
• Road slicks
• Nashbar carbon fork
• Nashbar crank set
jeepseahawk
03-29-12, 10:14 PM
Ok, you start this thread and continue to add little snippets of your progress but nothing for us, we deserve pictures! :(
MadCityCyclist
03-29-12, 10:53 PM
Turn it into a cargo bike: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-a-cargo-truck-bicycle/
Doohickie
03-29-12, 11:08 PM
You'll also probably have to replace the shifters to make this happen.
I recommend a set of Suntour Barcons. They are excellent friction bar-end shifters. You can pick them up on Craigslist, ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Suntour-Barcon-Friction-Shifters-Raleigh-Cable-Housing-Stop-/280854082326?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4164353316), swap meets, etc.
I've put a set on a mid-90s hybrid and even though they are friction shifters, with the rest of the bike set up for indexed, the shifting is very clean.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Doohickie/11SportXRS/DSC00052.jpg
I also put a pair on an older friction-shifted road bike and when I put on a ramped freewheel (i.e., one for indexed shifting), it also shifts very well.
ill.clyde
03-30-12, 07:59 AM
Ok, you start this thread and continue to add little snippets of your progress but nothing for us, we deserve pictures! :(
It's your LUCKY day! LOL ... started to rebuild it last night ... still have a ways to go, but so far so good ... apologies for the horrible phone camera picture. It's all I could do as I was rushign out the door this morning
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ill.clyde
03-30-12, 08:03 AM
As for details ... stock rims and spokes, cleaned and polished, new meats ... Kenda Small Block Eights
Retrospect 44T crank, in white.
Black, Nashbar seat post
White Bontrager saddle which was on my roadie but has since been replaced.
Rattle can flat black paint
Stock Rock Shox Judy forks for now
The plan is to go 1X7, so I've got to reinstall the RD, cables for both front and back brakes and new brake pads all around. Also have new grips to install as well as white, platform pedals
Hopefully she'll be back in ride trim by the end of the weekend.
fun2none
03-31-12, 11:09 PM
I bought a worn out 6500 and built a 29er hybrid conversion. It has economy Alex 700C wheelset,Shimano 48-36-26 cranks, and 8-speed drive train. It is the perfect bike for running errands and just-riding-around with the kids.
http://home.comcast.net/~fun2none/Cycling/6500-conversion.png
ill.clyde
04-02-12, 07:41 AM
Nice!
jeepseahawk
04-02-12, 10:27 PM
The build looks great, rattled can mine as well, works perfect. I think the fork should be painted on yours or at least take stickers off it.
ill.clyde
04-03-12, 07:54 AM
The build looks great, rattled can mine as well, works perfect. I think the fork should be painted on yours or at least take stickers off it.
It's funny you say that ... I was thinking the fork needs something too. I think I'll probably start with just taking the stickers off, and see how it goes.
Was too busy this past weekend to finish it ... and went riding after work last night on my roadie rather than fix it LOL
agreed the fork blue sticker needs to go.
its looking great so far. any insight on the hard or rough or confusing stuff on your build so far?
ill.clyde
04-04-12, 08:03 AM
Yeah, the sticker is going to go ... and if the unstickered fork looks weird (It's a creamish color, not white, and I was going for a black and white thing), then I'll sand the fork and paint it ... probably black in all honesty.
Issues on my build ... glad you asked. After I disassembled, and then reassembled, I goofed something up putting the fork back on, and there's a lot of play in the headset, which is stock. So I think I'm going to replace the headset (which will facilitate the painting of the shock too).
I also noticed, there's a lot of "wobble" in my front wheel. Meaning, when I put it back on the bike, and tightened the skewer, there's some play, side to side, in the wheel. I'm wondering why that is, but haven't had the time to look into further. Any thoughts from anyone?
Lastly, I think I'm going to have my LBS do the new cables. I'm not sure I have the patience or skills to do that.
ill.clyde
04-12-12, 08:11 AM
So ... she's done, for now
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Went with a Cane Creek headset and that tightened everything up front very nicely.
Going to leave the fork as is for now.
Having an issue with chain suck and the chain dropping off the crank, so I'm looking at different solutions. It dropped once in the shop apparently and scratched up the paint on the bottom of the frame, so I'm going to have to fix that soon.
All in all, pretty pleased with it. It'll be a nice around town cruiser that'll handle the bike paths around here too. Not sure I'd go trail riding with it in this configuration, but I'm pretty pleased with it overall.
F'ing sweet ride, turned out great.
all you need now is a card in the spokes and some streamers on the handlebar ends
Doohickie
04-12-12, 08:50 AM
Sharp.
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