Mountain Biking - Which SINGLE part upgrade makes the most noticeable improvement to a bike?

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Cliver
03-12-12, 02:03 PM
Pretty much said it all in the title, but which single upgrade would you say makes the most noticeable difference/improvement to a mountain bike?


ljsense
03-12-12, 02:04 PM
For dollar spent, tires.

jcivic00
03-12-12, 02:23 PM
I was going to say either fork, or tires/wheels.


Zephyr11
03-12-12, 02:49 PM
I'd place pedals and shoes pretty highly too, whether you're talking a good pair of platforms or clipless.

ESW116
03-12-12, 03:36 PM
I agree with pedals. Not the singularly most important but even platforms with good grippy studs make a big difference.

g0tink87
03-12-12, 05:05 PM
I'll go ahead and say clipless, my biking experience completely changed when I bought them.

IthaDan
03-12-12, 05:22 PM
I'll go ahead and say clipless, my biking experience completely changed when I bought them.

+1

dminor
03-12-12, 05:46 PM
For dollar spent, tires.I have to agree. Then brakes.

Daspydyr
03-12-12, 05:49 PM
I want to toss the rider into the discussion. Weight loss, conditioning. Physically improve the rider and the bike gets better.

Tires and knowing how to work the tires. I caught the phrase, "pushing the tires into corners" around here. Learning to do that helped my riding, trust the side knobs.

ljsense
03-12-12, 06:48 PM
I forgot about the possibility of platform pedals or plastic clips and straps and upgrading to clipless. That would be the most dramatic single upgrade for the least money.

The posters who said that after I said tires won.

g0tink87
03-12-12, 06:56 PM
I have to agree. Then brakes.

Brakes?...what are those. :lol:

jimc101
03-12-12, 08:10 PM
All depends what you have already, if you have modern bike (FS or Hardtail), a dropper seatpost, not the best value for money, but having got one recently, it have given me more confidence in areas I was having difficulty with.

Triaxtremec
03-12-12, 08:16 PM
my opinion was lighter wheels and tires.

SlimRider
03-12-12, 08:56 PM
Nice tires and rims are important, but bad brakes are a real killer and poor derailleurs are a PITA, too!

So after wheels would be brakes. Next would be derailleurs...

Hey, but what if your seat hurts your butt?

Alright, in this order:

1) Tires

2) Rims

3) Brakes

4) Derailleurs

5) Saddle

6) Grips

7) Shifters

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pablosnazzy
03-12-12, 08:59 PM
Topcap. definately Topcap.

or....

tires. tires are a huge influence on how a bike feels when you ride. a great bike with crap tires makes the bike handle and feel like crap.

Hocam
03-13-12, 09:15 AM
Assuming everything functions correctly and generally meets your riding needs (ie suspension travel, fit, etc) I'd say brakes and tires. Wheels are probably third.

NoTrail
03-13-12, 10:23 AM
I'd say general comfort on the bike. If you aren't comfortable (physically and mentally) on the bike, yor entire ride suffers.

roccobike
03-13-12, 10:56 AM
I'd agree with tires for the biggest bang for the buck, but the biggest improvement is suspension, but it costs a lot more.

RobertFrapples
03-13-12, 11:52 AM
I got clipless pedals. I got new wheels. I switched from a suspension fork to a rigid fork. I got better tires. I switched saddles. I upgrade brakes. The thing that made the biggest difference?

ergon grips.

The other things made the bike better. Comfortable grips made me a better rider.

Daspydyr
03-13-12, 11:55 AM
What about Hubs? Would someone in the know comment about hubs. I have never changed out hubs, just ridden what came with the bike, well maybe a couple of replacements setups. Do hubs effect rolling much?

Cliver
03-13-12, 01:53 PM
Clipless pedals made the biggest difference in MY performance, but as for the performance of the bike itself, I'm not sure I have an answer at the moment...

lobstermike
03-13-12, 02:15 PM
I'd say taking off the clipless, and fitting studded platforms. A huge increase in confidence being able to bale out or put a foot down in an instance. On our woodland technical rides none of us use clipless. I use clipless for road tarmac riding and they are great.

Cliver
03-13-12, 02:18 PM
I'd say taking off the clipless, and fitting studded platforms. A huge increase in confidence being able to bale out or put a foot down in an instance. On our woodland technical rides none of us use clipless. I use clipless for road tarmac riding and they are great.

I can see where this would be a plus, but clipless pedals make such a huge difference for me on the climbs. I feel a lot stronger/don't wear out as quickly when I'm getting 100% efficiency out of my pedal stroke.

ColinL
03-13-12, 02:43 PM
minimal climbing here, and lots of loose-over-hardpack. platforms are relatively popular.

I'm giving it one more shot to adapt to clipless on technical singletrack this season. I've ridden a whole ton of enduro and motox in my life, and certain parts of my brain just instinctively say "PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN NOW".

clipless on non-technical trail or on the road, that's a given.

SlimRider
03-14-12, 02:02 AM
I got clipless pedals. I got new wheels. I switched from a suspension fork to a rigid fork. I got better tires. I switched saddles. I upgrade brakes. The thing that made the biggest difference?

ergon grips.

The other things made the bike better. Comfortable grips made me a better rider.

Yep! Never will forget building up my Giant Innova from scratch and rode it without any grips at all. I almost rattled my teeth out. The next day, I got some nice new Bontrager Satellite Plus Grips and rode the smoothest ride home you could ever imagine.

Grips do make a difference!

3speed
03-14-12, 02:17 AM
Another vote for tires. The thing that keeps you in contact with the terrain you're riding makes a Huge difference. After that, I say assuming it's a bike that already fits you well and functions well - the fork if it's a bike with a suspension fork. If fully ridged then I'd vote breaks.

sknhgy
03-14-12, 08:28 AM
Tires

ColinL
03-14-12, 08:44 AM
tires are a really good pick but they're also fairly subjective. there are a FEW tires with a very solid reputation that are widely loved, but there are many other tires that depend on your specific riding conditions and your own preferences.

so that's what sucks-- we can unequivocally say that at a given price point, this one/two fork(s) is the best, but it's nowhere near that easy with tires.

Cliver
03-14-12, 09:37 AM
Let's go ahead and open it up to specifics.

Lots of folks have said tires, but which would you pick?

("specifics" doesn't limit the discussion to tires, alone. If there's a particular fork, brakeset, etc. that you feel makes the biggest difference, feel free to say so.)

Hocam
03-14-12, 12:48 PM
What are you riding? Tires are very specific to conditions.

dminor
03-14-12, 01:23 PM
I have to say that the (brand) (model) in (size) of (durometer) is the perfect tire. Except when it's not.

c_mack9
03-14-12, 04:49 PM
i'm still pretty new to mtb but i figured all you guys would say change the fork first. tires wasnt something i expectd to read. my jet9 came with conti xking tires on it, i got a hole in the sidewall so i ordered some maxxis ardent tires to replace them. my buddy that rides them said they rail corners. i'm hoping they make a big difference, i need all the help i can get. i'm just now learning i need to put some weight over the front tire instead of leaning back. now it seems like a no brainer.

Daspydyr
03-14-12, 04:55 PM
If people are going to post tires, brand and size can you also post typical riding conditions as well?

sknhgy
03-14-12, 08:02 PM
A typical ride for me starts with several miles of pavement, which gives way to several miles of gravel, which gives way to several miles of hard pack. The hard pack can have miles of relatively soft dirt and some loose sand. Throw in some mud and ruts. My Rockhopper came with Maxxiss Capitan studded tires or something like that. I switched them out for some cheaper Avernir Swiss Army universal tires I got from Dick's Sporting Goods for $17 ea and I couldn't be happier. The Avenir tires are much much faster on smooth surfaces and they grip well on dirt. The only places they slip more than the studs are on the loose sand or deep mud, and those are places I try to avoid anyway.
Maybe now I'll look into upgrading the fork.

Darth_Firebolt
03-14-12, 08:46 PM
helium.

Dannihilator
03-14-12, 08:52 PM
Since tires, wheels and all of that has been mentioned. A comfortable set of handlebars.