Bicycle Mechanics - Changing cranksets

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tg1896
12-23-04, 10:28 AM
My ride is a late 80's Trek 560 road bike that I bought for triathlons. It's been hanging in my garage for about ten years. Six months ago I decided to use it to commute to work. Tuned it up and took off - so far - so good. What I don't like is lugging a laptop, lunch and clothes in a messenger bag PLUS the gearing is too high. I think I can live without panniers if I can change the gearing. I've got a 52/42 Suntour crank with a 6-speed 28/14 cassette. I've seen an ad for a 50/34 crank at Nashbar, but can't figure out if it would work on my bike. The ad says it works with "standard double derailleurs". Mine is a Suntour Cyclone (I told you it was old).
1. Will this crank work on my bike set up the way it is?
2. Will I need a new front derailleur?
3. If the answer to #2 is yes, should I also change the rear to match?
4. How do I know if this will work with my BB?
5. If it won't, how do I select a new BB that will work on my bike and the new crank?
6. At what point do I throw my hands up and spring for the new $1500 Cannondale touring bike that I want?


sydney
12-23-04, 11:21 AM
My ride is a late 80's Trek 560 road bike that I bought for triathlons. It's been hanging in my garage for about ten years. Six months ago I decided to use it to commute to work. Tuned it up and took off - so far - so good. What I don't like is lugging a laptop, lunch and clothes in a messenger bag PLUS the gearing is too high. I think I can live without panniers if I can change the gearing. I've got a 52/42 Suntour crank with a 6-speed 28/14 cassette. I've seen an ad for a 50/34 crank at Nashbar, but can't figure out if it would work on my bike. The ad says it works with "standard double derailleurs". Mine is a Suntour Cyclone (I told you it was old).
1. Will this crank work on my bike set up the way it is?
2. Will I need a new front derailleur?
3. If the answer to #2 is yes, should I also change the rear to match?
4. How do I know if this will work with my BB?
5. If it won't, how do I select a new BB that will work on my bike and the new crank?
6. At what point do I throw my hands up and spring for the new $1500 Cannondale touring bike that I want?It'll work but you need the BB to match it. Your BB is english thread with a 68mm shell width.Your derailers will work.Doing it yourself will require a crank puller,BB tools to get your old BB out and a tool to install the new BB. If your BCD is 130mm(76.4mm between adjacent bolt holes) you could stick a 38 ring on your crankset.

tg1896
12-23-04, 12:09 PM
Thanks for the help. Your last statement intrigues me. What the heck is a BCD? It sounds like you're saying I could just change out my 42 for a 38 and avoid some hassle. Am I reading you correctly?


sydney
12-23-04, 12:22 PM
Thanks for the help. Your last statement intrigues me. What the heck is a BCD? It sounds like you're saying I could just change out my 42 for a 38 and avoid some hassle. Am I reading you correctly?Bolt Circle Diameter. Ring changes are easy,assuming they aren't riveted together,and yours likely aren't. Doing it requires matchng bolt pattern(yours is 5 hole), and BCD.Nashbar has inexpensive rings.

cyccommute
12-24-04, 09:17 AM
It'll work but you need the BB to match it. Your BB is english thread with a 68mm shell width.Your derailers will work.Doing it yourself will require a crank puller,BB tools to get your old BB out and a tool to install the new BB. If your BCD is 130mm(76.4mm between adjacent bolt holes) you could stick a 38 ring on your crankset.

I'd second what was previously said and add that you might want to replace the 28 tooth cog on the cassete with a 30 (most derailuers will handle it). Sheldon Brown (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html) has all kinds of information on how to do this as well as the cogs.

I'd suggest saving your money for that Cannondale (although I think the T800 is just as good as the T2000 for less money. I have a T800 and love it to death.)

Stuart Black
"Sticking my nose in for too long."

Retro Grouch
12-24-04, 10:30 AM
Bolt Circle Diameter. Ring changes are easy,assuming they aren't riveted together,and yours likely aren't. Doing it requires matchng bolt pattern(yours is 5 hole), and BCD.Nashbar has inexpensive rings.

Since it's hard to measure the bolt circle diameter directly with a 5 arm crank, measure the center-to-center distance of any two adjacent chainring bolts.

32.9mm = 56mm BCD
34.3mm = 58mm
43.5mm = 74mm
55.4mm = 94mm
64.7mm = 110mm
76.4mm = 130mm
79.5mm = 135mm
84.6mm = 144mm

tg1896
12-24-04, 12:47 PM
The BCD is 144mm. I can't find a chainring smaller than 42 that will fit it. I have decided to take the plunge and replace the crank and BB.

Thanks for all the advice.