Utility Cycling - Hauling Plywood

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adanthang
03-28-12, 07:54 AM
I live about 4-5 miles from my Home Depot. What would be the best set-up for me to have to haul sheets of plywood (4'X8')? Has anyone done this?
chandltp
03-28-12, 08:17 AM
I asked about it a few years back and was pretty much told it wasn't practical. I never did try building the 4X8 trailer to haul it flat.
crackerdog
03-28-12, 08:58 AM
I have used a Bike At Works trailer and hauled it flat. If I did it regularly, I would rig up supports so the plywood rides above the fenders and is supported on all four corners. We have local lumber yards here and they deliver for free so I rarely need to haul sheet goods.
badmother
03-28-12, 09:08 AM
I would try a trailer and have them stand up leaning against eachother like they do when transporting windows or sheets of glass.
Avoid windy days ofcourse.
but first I would look into other solutions, like have it delivered.
dayworks
03-28-12, 04:56 PM
There's no getting around the wind on this one. Even flat it's a little dicey. We get a lot of out of the blue gusts around here so even a calm day is no guarantee that I'll be safe. A person and a bike just don't weight enough compared to the potential wind load on something with that much surface. Short of having it delivered, If you can design your project to use 2' x 8' s that might be safer. Home Despot will give you two cuts on your plywood without charging you anything.
I have put some thought into this one. My experiences with hang gliders and even just R/C planes makes me think 1/2 sheet is the limit of what I would try to haul on a bike. Even on calm days we get thermals cooking off (dust devils) that could ruin your day.
ETA: of course you could haul a stack of half sheets.
nubcake
04-02-12, 08:11 AM
I would just say go for it. A Bikes at Work trailer or a Surly Bill trailer are probably your best bet. Just try to plan it around a day without much wind.
Shimagnolo
04-02-12, 08:16 AM
I live about 4-5 miles from my Home Depot. What would be the best set-up for me to have to haul sheets of plywood (4'X8')? Has anyone done this?
When I did it, I spent the $30 to rent one of Home Depot's trucks for an hour.
fietsbob
04-02-12, 01:26 PM
If I was going to cut it anyway, I'd give the Lumber yard/shop the cut I needed ,
They would cut it, and then wouldn't have to haul the whole panel, whole..
rumrunn6
04-02-12, 01:30 PM
once in order to bring firewood to a beach fire I tied a bunch of old trees together and dragged them to the beach. that was weirdly fun
WickedThump
04-03-12, 03:08 PM
I once had to transport a 4'x4' paper cutter. I balanced it on a pedal and used the bike like a dolly to get it home.
I would just say go for it. A Bikes at Work trailer or a Surly Bill trailer are probably your best bet. Just try to plan it around a day without much wind.
Uh, I would not.
Finding oneself and your load blown into the middle of Atlanta traffic will not be a good day.
Have it delivered, find a buddy with a truck, or rent one from Home Despot.
Here is a generic formula for calculating wind loads.
Force, F = A x P x Cd
A = The projected area of the item
P , Wind pressure (Psf), = .00256 x V^2 (V= wind speed in Mph)
Cd , Drag coefficient, = 2.0 for flat plates.
ztriple3
09-12-12, 07:25 AM
I live about 4-5 miles from my Home Depot. What would be the best set-up for me to have to haul sheets of plywood (4'X8')? Has anyone done this?
I'm about to try this, with something a little smaller than a half sheet of plywood:
If the minimum dimension of the plywood is too long to hold it under your arm, tie rope tight around it like a birthday present ribbon (across both dimensions). then place the board under one arm and hold onto the rope with your hand. bike with one hand on the handle bars and one hand securing the plywood under your arm.
Ranko Kohime
09-12-12, 07:27 PM
^ That shall end in tears, I'm certain.
jsdavis
09-17-12, 02:17 AM
Man...just rent a pickup from Zip car or something for a fwe dollars. Or HOme Depot will rent you their truck for an hour for something like $20 but that's better for a stack of plywood rather than just one sheet.
Rootman
09-17-12, 06:47 AM
Yes friend this COULD end very tragically. You could end up getting it home just fine but the chances are you could get yourself and other traffic in a LOT of hurt in a heartbeat. As mentioned above, either rent the truck, ask a friend to haul it in their truck for $5 or pay for delivery.
I hope I DON'T hear about this going wrong on the evening news :(
To everyone losing their minds because of wind load, the answer is pretty simple:
Increase the weight portion of the weight/surface area ratio. Two sheets of plywood have twice the weight but only a hair more surface area. If you only need one sheet, just put some weight on it. Sheesh.
As for trailers, I built a simple throwaway rig. It was just some dolly wheels attached to a 2x4, and a separate 2x4 with a hole in it. The hole goes around my seatpost, and I C-clamped the 2x4s in the appropriate spots. It's heavy, and ungainly, but it cost me free dollars and it got the plywood home.
(to be clear, the dolly wheels were mounted at the ends of a 4' 2x4, so they stuck out on the sides. It was very stable).
Esteban32696
09-20-12, 09:09 AM
If I was going to cut it anyway, I'd give the Lumber yard/shop the cut I needed ,
They would cut it, and then wouldn't have to haul the whole panel, whole..
I agree. Around here, hauling a full sheet with a bike is asking for trouble,,, maybe even death.
gregjones
09-21-12, 09:22 PM
I don't drive it but, I have a '94 Ford F150 that has insurance and a current tag in the driveway. It costs me about $50 a month to have it sit there. I can ALWAYS find someone that needs the use of a truck to drive and take me where I want to go.........of course "where I want to go" being further or carrying something heavier/more bulky than safe on the bike.
Esteban32696
09-22-12, 04:12 AM
Not only do you have the ambient wind to deal with, you have gusts of wind from passing cars & trucks.
Classic Bicycle
09-22-12, 11:43 AM
Having worked construction, necessitating carrying plywood from the truck into the job no matter what the weather was doing, I, 6"4" and 250 lb. mostly muscle and bone at that time, can tell you that a gust of wind, even one from a passing car, will move you in the direction it's going. Any trailer heavy enough to stabilize that load will be too heavy to haul with a bike. Use a truck or have it delivered.
prathmann
09-22-12, 11:55 AM
My utility trailer just consists of a 4' x 6' sheet of plywood bolted on top of the axle and tongue of a Bike Friday trailer. So carrying a few 4' x 8' sheets would be pretty easy but they'd stick out about a foot in front and in back. I don't think normal wind speeds would be problem since the sheets would be completely horizontal and quite low to the ground where wind speed is less.
hopperja
09-22-12, 11:11 PM
I have a BAW 64a and if I was to haul 4x8 plywood, I would just lay it flat. I'd probably put 2 - 4 foot 2x2 or 2x4 pieces underneath to support it at the edges (one across the fenders, one at the front), if the plywood needed the support (ie, <1/2"). This would eliminate any wind issues and a 4 foot wide load is maneageable. I wouldn't have any hesitation, and might even strap a bin on top to haul my 5 year old.
iheartbacon
09-23-12, 05:13 AM
There's a bike hauling plywood here:
http://www.bikesatwork.com/
274419
I guess it's possible?
hopperja
09-23-12, 09:45 PM
There's a bike hauling plywood here:
http://www.bikesatwork.com/
274419
I guess it's possible?
This is exactly how I'd do it, though as I said, I might put some support underneath it if needed. In this picture, I can't tell if there's any support. Regardless, this completely eliminates the wind issues, and all one has to deal with is the width (which should be manageable).
ztriple3
09-24-12, 03:02 AM
I'm about to try this, with something a little smaller than a half sheet of plywood:
If the minimum dimension of the plywood is too long to hold it under your arm, tie rope tight around it like a birthday present ribbon (across both dimensions). then place the board under one arm and hold onto the rope with your hand. bike with one hand on the handle bars and one hand securing the plywood under your arm.
So i did try this, and It was trickier than i expected. Holding plywood cut in 1/3rds (about 3' X 4', and stacked 3 deep) was very heavy, so i ended up bundling this stack and resting it on my right pedal, leaning up against the right handle bar (standing tallwise). I only live about a mile and a half from the home depot so i walked my bike most of the way, basically using it as a dolly. I was able to ride my bike sidesaddle with braking down one long gently-sloping hill, after readjusting the plywood bundle in a lengthwise orientation on the right pedal and riding with my right foot on the left pedal and both hands on the handle bars. This readjustment was necessary because my weight on the left pedal raised the height of the right pedal and plywood, and this height change required plywood orientation readjustment upon starting and finishing the sidesaddle downhill ride.
Esteban32696
09-24-12, 06:29 AM
So i did try this, and It was trickier than i expected. Holding plywood cut in 1/3rds (about 3' X 4', and stacked 3 deep) was very heavy, so i ended up bundling this stack and resting it on my right pedal, leaning up against the right handle bar (standing tallwise). I only live about a mile and a half from the home depot so i walked my bike most of the way, basically using it as a dolly. I was able to ride my bike sidesaddle with braking down one long gently-sloping hill, after readjusting the plywood bundle in a lengthwise orientation on the right pedal and riding with my right foot on the left pedal and both hands on the handle bars. This readjustment was necessary because my weight on the left pedal raised the height of the right pedal and plywood, and this height change required plywood orientation readjustment upon starting and finishing the sidesaddle downhill ride.
Sounds SKKKKEEEERRRRYYY to me !
there's a bike hauling plywood here:
http://www.bikesatwork.com/
274419
i guess it's possible?
dear god look out! The wind is going to blow him away!!!
Saw this on FB and thought it needed to be in this thread. I know nothing about the photo bike or rider except what we see:
275782
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25831992@N03/2992463794/
Aiee! The wind! :)
I posted this over in the "Post your haul" thread, but thought I'd put it in here, too. It's not technically plywood, but it's close enough.
I needed some peg board to renovate my garage. The hardware store is only about a mile away, so I built a trailer out of scrap, lumber and some old dolly wheels I had laying around. Trailer only took about 15 minutes to build since I already had a hitch made.
So I rode up to the store, got my 6 sheets of pegboard, and rode home. It was slow going, but I made it! Should have used something a little stronger for the tongue, cause the aluminum bent about 200 yards from the house. I just shifted the load a little to the rear and bent it back.
The trailer is getting pulled apart since I need the lumber, but next one will be a lot tougher.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8149406061_69c8c8afdd_z.jpg
bikesatwork
11-06-12, 09:22 PM
If you have a large enough trailer, plywood is not difficult to carry flat or vertically. I've done it mostly on relatively calm days, but as Jamoni pointed out, the wind should not be a problem if you have enough weight to ballast the trailer
FWIW, we've received several requests from builders, handypeople, and DIYers who want to carry plywood but want to carry it vertically rather horizontally to minimize their width profile. So, we recently began making a rack for our trailers for that purpose:
http://www.bikesatwork.com/store/product/plywood-rack
http://www.bikesatwork.com/store/images/carrying-plywood-on-bike-trailer-with-rack.jpg.
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Jim G.
Bikes At Work
That's pretty nice, but you might want to include some warnings to only do it on calm days and probably only with several sheets. With that vertical profile an average gust of wind would create some pretty large forces and a potential safety hazard. Wind loads can easily reach 50-100 or more pounds in that configuration, which would either lift the plywood, or tip it over, even with a lot of ballast. The problem is a large force a few feet up requires a huge ballast to keep from tipping.
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