Fifty Plus (50+) - ridding, riding, loosing, loose, losing

Common "driving me crazy" words. Anyone else?

ridding - getting rid of something (I am ridding myself of a bicycle)
riding - like riding a bicycle
loosing - setting free
loose - not fixed in place
lose - like losing weight

I know I wil be criticized for this post, but these are easy distinctions.

No, not really. I always try to look at what the writer is trying to say. Or should I say:

Know, knot really. I always try to look at what the righter is trying to say.

Yes, I understand. The meaning is the important thing.

I have been working hard ridding my bike so I can loose some weight!

So, like I got up this morning and than log into BF and what do I find? Nother gramer thred ... I'd rather be biking* (ridding my biek) diallling it up to 400 wats and pounding the petals with my mighty guads and loosing wieght then reading about gramer and spelling and such like.

I should of not opened this thread my head feels like its going to asplode.

*Might it be possible to ban this term from all boards save Tri and MTB? Serious.

No one will ever convince me that poor grammar and spelling are ever acceptable, in any format, under any circumstances. It behooves native speakers to set an example of good usage for non-native speakers, particularly in circumstances such as BF wherein the participants are from all over the world. Not knowing the difference in loose/lose, ridding/riding, peddling/pedaling, petal/pedal, who's/whose, your/you're, its/it's, there/their/they're, where/wear/ware/were, two/to/too is inexcusable among native speakers.

I should of not opened this thread my head feels like its going to asplode.



I believe you have the problem solved - just follow your own advice! I would hate to be responsible for your head asploding!!

It makes me loose my mind.

It's unfortunate when the discussion degrades into an analysis of word usage, especially when the meaning is clear and the judgment being made concerns adults.

My pet peeve is the word "alloy" used as a synonym for "aluminum". Steel is by definition an alloy.

My pet peeve is the word "alloy" used as a synonym for "aluminum". Steel is by definition an alloy.

I see you are my alloy!! Thanks. :)

My pet peeve is the word "alloy" used as a synonym for "aluminum". Steel is by definition an alloy.

As is the Ti alloy used in a Ti frame, etc. Bugs me, too, because I can never assume what material is being spoken of without more context.

The spelling and word usage bugs me, too, but I was educated in a day where we had to spell correctly with good handwriting (cursive), and had no spell checker other than the teacher who graded your paper.

My favorite ride stop/start point is the Chatoe Rogue. I love their beer, but I wish they had spelled better.....

Breaks and peddles.

There are a lot more important things to be concerned about.

We have lost the ability to construct logical arguments. We have allowed politicians to degrade our ethical discourse.

I see the fallacy of the false dichotomy used daily, as is the "straw man" argument.

We have become a culture of emotivists. Instead of saying "I think" we say "I feel" and we actually believe it.

A culture that prides itself on rationality has become irrational. Ideological labels reign supreme. No one thinks for himself. We allow politicians to tell us what to believe. Few could give a reasonable characterization of what their "enemies", ie. someone who doesn't believe what they do, truly believe. They can only repeat politicians' propaganda.

Grammatical errors don't hurt anyone.

Grammar is the tool of oppressive devils

It makes me loose my mind.

LOL - Me, too!

Grammar is the tool of oppressive devils

Social control and the ability to inflict the term deviance on those who do not conform has always been a form of oppression. Using symbolic interactionism as the foundation for a query, one easily recognizes it is simply a method of attaching labels that allow one to discriminate and create social class. If, however, one were so inclined to use structural functionalism as the tool for analysis, one must ask, "Who benefits from the social control and what purpose does it serve"? ;)

Common "driving me crazy" words. Anyone else?

ridding - getting rid of something (I am ridding myself of a bicycle)
riding - like riding a bicycle
loosing - setting free
loose - not fixed in place
lose - like losing weight

I know I wil be criticized for this post, but these are easy distinctions.

Not by me... but you probably ARE swimming upstream.

Dang! Can't find a section explaining proper use of Communication Tools on the Park Tool site.

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help

weight, I'm loosing my mind or is that because I've losed some wait?

Pedant and Pendant. I hate when those get mixed up ;).

There are a lot more important things to be concerned about.

We have lost the ability to construct logical arguments. We have allowed politicians to degrade our ethical discourse.

I see the fallacy of the false dichotomy used daily, as is the "straw man" argument.

We have become a culture of emotivists. Instead of saying "I think" we say "I feel" and we actually believe it.

A culture that prides itself on rationality has become irrational. Ideological labels reign supreme. No one thinks for himself. We allow politicians to tell us what to believe. Few could give a reasonable characterization of what their "enemies", ie. someone who doesn't believe what they do, truly believe. They can only repeat politicians' propaganda.

Grammatical errors don't hurt anyone.

My original post concerned spelling, not grammar.

Spelling is the writing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing) of one or more words (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word) with letters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_(alphabet)) and diacritics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic). In addition, the term often, but not always, means an accepted standard spelling or the process of naming the letters.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-2) In the sense of a standard, spelling is one of the elements of orthography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthography) and a prescriptive (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prescriptive) element of alphabetic languages.

vs.

In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules that govern the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language

As a teacher, I'm a strong proponent of good grammar and spelling.

I mean, it's kind of the difference between knowing your s#!t, and knowing you're s#!t.

As a teacher, I'm a strong proponent of good grammar and spelling.

I mean, it's kind of the difference between knowing your s#!t, and knowing you're s#!t.

Nice.

I find it sad that people can't bother to use the appropriate words or accurate spelling when attempting to communicate. I also know that offering to educate or correct them is like pissing into the wind. There are too many thin-skinned people and they take things personally. It's not worth the time or energy.

So this is what you do when it rains.

My original post concerned spelling, not grammar.

Spelling is the writing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing) of one or more words (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word) with letters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_(alphabet)) and diacritics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic). In addition, the term often, but not always, means an accepted standard spelling or the process of naming the letters.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-2) In the sense of a standard, spelling is one of the elements of orthography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthography) and a prescriptive (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prescriptive) element of alphabetic languages.

vs.

In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules that govern the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language

Actually, if the words are spelled correctly but misused, the issue is word usage and not just spelling.

Word usage may also involve grammar and thus be the subject of profound analysis.

Maybe it's time to move on to Ebonics and Spanglish.

When it comes to journalism and advertising where people are expected to be literate, yes, it bothers me. Otherwise, no, because posting online is expected to be informal, unless it is too hard for me to read. :)

My original post concerned spelling, not grammar.

Spelling is the writing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing) of one or more words (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word) with letters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_(alphabet)) and diacritics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic). In addition, the term often, but not always, means an accepted standard spelling or the process of naming the letters.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling#cite_note-2) In the sense of a standard, spelling is one of the elements of orthography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthography) and a prescriptive (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prescriptive) element of alphabetic languages.

vs.

In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules that govern the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language
Well played, Sir.

I'm an apostrophe Nazi myself. I don't mind the occasional misspellings and such - at least online - but the folks who believe every word ending in "s" deserves an apostrophe drive me a bit crazy. Not that that's especially important...

Re. the value of spelling and grammar in online forums, well, my feeling is that if your writing is careless or lazy, your thinking probably is too.

So this is what you do when it rains.

Good thing it is not what he does when he reigns. :)

My pet peeve is the word "alloy" used as a synonym for "aluminum". Steel is by definition an alloy.

Aluminium is a long word to type so "Al" or Ally" are suitable alternatives. Alloy is a Mix of more than one metal and can be Steel- Aluminium-Brass- Tin Etc. However- if someone has referred to Aluminium already- then I take it that their word Alloy- although wrong- will just be a mis-interpretation of the word Ally.

I don't care what people write- How they write it- or in what context. We can't all be English Language Graduates. I never was but that doesn't stop me from understanding most of the variations of English from around the world. Mind you- I do occasionally have a problem understanding the "Spoken" word from some that have a strong Regional Accent and dialect.

My pet peeve is the word "alloy" used as a synonym for "aluminum". Steel is by definition an alloy.

If they are referring to aluminum in the raw state, they are incorrect, as they would be with titanium which are both elements.

However, if they are referring to any bike part that's made with aluminum, they are absolutely within their rights to refer to it as "alloy".

I once owned a limited production Japanese race motorcycle (TZ 250). The manual stated that if "any loose is found, tighten". I got their drift. I don't get twisted up about spelling and grammar on an Internet forum, any more than I go around correcting people's everyday speech for improper grammar, word usage, and pronunciation. Worrying about that stuff here is a bit like worrying about kids wearing sagging jeans while people in $5000 suits and $500 haircuts are bankrupting the country. Plus language and spelling are constantly evolving.

I have made my wife stop referring to a "water heater" as a "hot water heater" though.

And I'll give a shout out to all the dyslexic people out there, especially my left handed brothers. I can proofread my own writing a dozen times and if some things don't pop up with red underlines, they look fine to me.

I edited a magazine for three years and you should see the things people turn in even when they are getting paid.

Ideological labels reign supreme.

Another of my favorites. Could somebody define "conservative" and "liberal" for me?

Another of my favorites. Could somebody define "conservative" and "liberal" for me?

To paraphrase P.J. O' Rourke:

A liberal gets elected saying government can do nothing wrong, get elected, and prove the opposite.

Conservatives get elected saying government can't do anything right, get elected, and prove correct.

road bike/rode bike
breaking while riding/braking while riding

Every damned day, it seems...

Another of my favorites. Could somebody define "conservative" and "liberal" for me?
Well, I know the difference between Capitalism and Communism.

Capitalism is man's exploitation of man.

Communism is the opposite.

(Chapeau to the members of the former Soviet Union who came up with that one.)

(Next I suppose you'll be slamming the inappropriate use of parentheses.)

I'm going down to the beach to try and stop the tide from comming in. It's a lot less frustrating than correcting grammar and spelling. Success rate is higher too.

Rode/road
Time Trails/Time Trials
Pedal/peddle/petal
Break/brake
Lose/Loose
Preform/perform


Sometimes the fingers don't carry out the orders that the brain gives. I try to proofread my responses before I click "Post". I still find mistakes in my own work.
It took many years for me to realize that some people with poor written language skills are still very intelligent people.
My line of work has eroded my own English writing skills.
I'm getting pretty good with making bullet-speak (Powerpoint slides) and developing software.

It's unfortunate when the discussion degrades into an analysis of word usage, especially when the meaning is clear and the judgment being made concerns adults.+1

It's not worth the time, trouble or turmoil created trying to correct poor spelling and grammar. Having been a Moderator for years on another forum, I can assure you this only creates ill feelings and discontent. A harmonious forum depends on everyone showing compassion and forgiveness for all members.

These days native speakers of English, especially if they are Americans, provide the worst example of language usage. English is an international language which means that judgment for proper usage may not necessarily reside with Brits or Americans. Spelling is mostly a matter of convention as is pronunciation. No one uses the Kings English, pronunciation or spelling any longer. This does not mean we can or should ignore current usage.

It may not seem like it but I'm a strong proponent of standards.

If they are referring to aluminum in the raw state, they are incorrect, as they would be with titanium which are both elements.




http://www2.brevard.edu/reynoljh/periodictable.jpg

If they are referring to aluminum in the raw state, they are incorrect, as they would be with titanium which are both elements.

However, if they are referring to any bike part that's made with aluminum, they are absolutely within their rights to refer to it as "alloy".

I once owned a limited production Japanese race motorcycle (TZ 250). The manual stated that if "any loose is found, tighten". I got their drift. I don't get twisted up about spelling and grammar on an Internet forum, any more than I go around correcting people's everyday speech for improper grammar, word usage, and pronunciation. Worrying about that stuff here is a bit like worrying about kids wearing sagging jeans while people in $5000 suits and $500 haircuts are bankrupting the country. Plus language and spelling are constantly evolving.

I have made my wife stop referring to a "water heater" as a "hot water heater" though.

And I'll give a shout out to all the dyslexic people out there, especially my left handed brothers. I can proofread my own writing a dozen times and if some things don't pop up with red underlines, they look fine to me.

I edited a magazine for three years and you should see the things people turn in even when they are getting paid.
I know where as you speek. When you never see a word spelt the same way twice...
And there are those who english is a second language. Give people a break already. Who made anyone the spelling, grammar, or usage police??? I have found when I get up on my "high horse" it's easer to fall off.

I think my breaks broke today, can I get sum help hear?

Common "driving me crazy" words. Anyone else?

ridding - getting rid of something (I am ridding myself of a bicycle)
riding - like riding a bicycle
loosing - setting free
loose - not fixed in place
lose - like losing weight

I know I wil be criticized for this post, but these are easy distinctions.


Your write. Sow many people don't no how to construct there sentences. It makes it harder to read what there trying to say. People, get you're text write please!

http://www2.brevard.edu/reynoljh/periodictable.jpg

I can't find steel on that chart. Does that mean that steel isn't real?

+1

... A harmonious forum depends on everyone showing compassion and forgiveness for all members.
Those are words to live by. Thanks for the reminder.

Social control and the ability to inflict the term deviance on those who do not conform has always been a form of oppression. Using symbolic interactionism as the foundation for a query, one easily recognizes it is simply a method of attaching labels that allow one to discriminate and create social class. If, however, one were so inclined to use structural functionalism as the tool for analysis, one must ask, "Who benefits from the social control and what purpose does it serve"? ;)

So does that mean I am being a revolutionary when I fart in public? I didn't realize my gut was so philosophical.

I can't find steel on that chart. Does that mean that steel isn't real?

Slim, where are you. You must have your radar turned off...

I know where as you speek. When you never see a word spelt the same way twice...
And there are those who english is a second language. Give people a break already.

What about the people for whom English is a second language?

Some posts are hard enough to understand even without the jargon and creative spelling. If your objective is to communicate, proper usage is giving those people a break.