Classic & Vintage - Vintage Looking New Frame Pumps

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I guess the title says it all. Are there any vintage looking frame pumps available? I'm just not into using BB Gun cartridges on my bike. When my brother and I saw CO2 pumps for the first time we both said "WOW they're still making whippet dispensers." Anyone under 50 won't understand that last comment.
metabike
04-29-12, 05:56 AM
I have Park Tools' frame pump on a couple of my bikes: http://www.parktool.com/product/dial-adjust-frame-pump-pmp-5
Blackburn's carbon fiber frame pump is what I have my Litespeed: http://www.amazon.com/Blackburn-Frame-Pump-Carbon-Fiber/dp/B000BNZ0LK. I don't find this on Blackburn's website so it must be going out of production & you might find a good deal somewhere.
Bianchigirll
04-29-12, 05:57 AM
I think there was a recent thread about a older pumps still being made. I have a Silca or two I carry on my clincher equiped bikes to shape up the tire before using the C02.
IMHO your better off carring a pump that works and wil get your tire up 100psi or whatever you like. for that i don't think there is a better pump than the Zefal HPX pums which come in 3 or 4 different lengths. Zefal I believe just reintroduced this a Classic item for around $40.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PUMP-ZEFAL-FRAME-HPX-3-SL-Black-CLASSIC-/00/s/MjM1WDQwMA==/$(KGrHqF,!jkE8F-NPZZdBPSMRvJowg~~60_12.JPG
"WOW they're still making whippet dispensers." Anyone under 50 won't understand that last comment.
I'm under 50 and I get it. ;-) I don't know of any modern vintage looking pumps however.
photogravity
04-29-12, 07:06 AM
I guess the title says it all. Are there any vintage looking frame pumps available? I'm just not into using BB Gun cartridges on my bike. When my brother and I saw CO2 pumps for the first time we both said "WOW they're still making whippet dispensers." Anyone under 50 won't understand that last comment.
I certainly don't understand the reference and I'm not too far removed from that age. ;) Anyway, getting back OT. I've only got one bike with a frame pump on it currently and would like to know of some options too. Maybe VO will step up to the plate and recreate the alloy body Bluemels pump. That's what I'd like to see personally.
kroozer
04-29-12, 08:35 AM
One of my LBS's sells Primus aluminum pumps with red and blue rings. Looks very French, but it also needs two clips/pegs. Also aluminum Tagamex pumps that need one clip. Both work very well, Presta-only. I don't know if they're actually new or just new-old stock. The shops here would rather hang onto stuff for 20 years than mark it down and move it.
due ruote
04-29-12, 12:17 PM
+1 on the Zefal pumps for quality and reliability, although with the graphics and all they have kind of a modern look. I know they can be stripped and polished but that's a lot of work. I recently tried to get one powder coated along with a frame, but couldn't figure out how to get all the plastic bits off. The coater assured me they'd either melt or become fatally brittle in the oven so I nixed the idea.
I like my Topeak MasterBlaster frame pump. It's not terribly modern looking.
http://www.topeak.com/mediafiles/products/3948/
Roll-Monroe-Co
04-29-12, 01:22 PM
For whippet, lift lid.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR4kWWSTc8QLrgkUQoysvatEKqpVxKALYr7Dn5IK8utGjRuDDtjzyBdz1B5ug
auchencrow
04-29-12, 01:26 PM
I have one of these (http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=11603) on my Golden Arrow
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh117/auchencrow/Raleigh%20Golden%20Arrow%20-%201938/RaleighGoldenArrow-1938006.jpg
I have a Silca on almost every bike: a few with the alloy Zefals, still available. I find em both on ebay.
pamaguahiker
04-29-12, 03:26 PM
I am 41 and i know what a whippet is! I have a alloy framed zefal that i like i recently purchased a park that adjusts to different frame sizes because i ride different bikes and although i use tons of umbrella clips. I want to get those off my paint. find something that works and paint to your specs.
I certainly don't understand the reference and I'm not too far removed from that age. ;)
I can't believe I'm explaining this but check out the link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipped-cream_charger
http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj396/cs1sales/Whip-Its.jpg
http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj396/cs1sales/brasscracker1.jpg
I like my Topeak MasterBlaster frame pump. It's not terribly modern looking.
http://www.topeak.com/mediafiles/products/3948/
That is a pump I was considering. Can they be disassembled and painted?
Chrome Molly
04-29-12, 04:01 PM
I have one of these (http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=11603) on my Golden Arrow
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh117/auchencrow/Raleigh%20Golden%20Arrow%20-%201938/RaleighGoldenArrow-1938006.jpg
How is it? Would you recommend for 100psi?
auchencrow
04-29-12, 04:15 PM
How is it? Would you recommend for 100psi?
I guess the title says it all. Are there any vintage looking frame pumps available? ....
^ It looks pretty vintage to me!
bobdell
04-29-12, 04:37 PM
I didn't know what it is, but this is what I found:
How Whippet Cracker workshttp://crackersnitrous.com/images/n2o-cracker2.pnghttp://n2ocrackers.com/images/n2o-cracker.pngA N2O dispenser is used to break the seal foil wrapper on the nitrous oxide tube. Any type of nitrous oxide tube that you can readily purchase at the store is going to have a foil tip. In order for you to get to the gas you need something to crack the whippet’s foil tip. You also have to release the gas in to a medium so it can warm a bit. Also with N2O dispensers (http://n2odispensers.com/) it is nice if they are small and easily concealable. If you have one of the bigger crackers they are hard to bring to parties without everyone knowing what you are doing. With most N2O whippet dispensers you are going to need a balloon for the whippet’s gas to flow into and then be easily used. Do not buy cheap balloons because they are a waste of money, they will break on you with only a couple of uses. You should always get thick and heavy duty balloons so they don’t break from the extremely cold temperatures that are released when cracking whippets.
I have one of these (http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=11603) on my Golden Arrow
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh117/auchencrow/Raleigh%20Golden%20Arrow%20-%201938/RaleighGoldenArrow-1938006.jpg
I like that, it looks vintage, and sleek.
hairnet
04-29-12, 05:05 PM
That is a pump I was considering. Can they be disassembled and painted?
You can disassemble them
Grand Bois
04-29-12, 07:18 PM
The Zefal Lapize is vintage looking and is still being made. I paid $3.15 for mine from xxcycle.com. They have gone up a couple of dollars the last time I looked.
http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/26140/2188523240068014369S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2188523240068014369deIMQv)
seedsbelize
04-29-12, 08:22 PM
I think there was a recent thread about a older pumps still being made. I have a Silca or two I carry on my clincher equiped bikes to shape up the tire before using the C02.
IMHO your better off carring a pump that works and wil get your tire up 100psi or whatever you like. for that i don't think there is a better pump than the Zefal HPX pums which come in 3 or 4 different lengths. Zefal I believe just reintroduced this a Classic item for around $40.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PUMP-ZEFAL-FRAME-HPX-3-SL-Black-CLASSIC-/00/s/MjM1WDQwMA==/$(KGrHqF,!jkE8F-NPZZdBPSMRvJowg~~60_12.JPG
I have one that looks like this one, but is just an HP--no X. It's rated at 110psi, or thereabouts, but I have never gotten more than 85 out of it. I need to study up on how to make any frame pump reach its rated pressure.
The Zefal Lapize is vintage looking and is still being made. I paid $3.15 for mine from xxcycle.com. They have gone up a couple of dollars the last time I looked.
http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/26140/2188523240068014369S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2188523240068014369deIMQv)
That looks pretty good and vintage.
I have one of these (http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=11603) on my Golden Arrow
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh117/auchencrow/Raleigh%20Golden%20Arrow%20-%201938/RaleighGoldenArrow-1938006.jpg
How is it? Would you recommend for 100psi?
No. I have one, and am glad there's something available in that size, but pumping a tire up to 50 psi is hard work, and I don't know how much higher than that you can go.
photogravity
04-30-12, 07:00 AM
No. I have one, and am glad there's something available in that size, but pumping a tire up to 50 psi is hard work, and I don't know how much higher than that you can go.
That's why I carry CO2 dispensers. The pump is cosmetic and the dispensers serve me if I get a flat.
puchfinnland
04-30-12, 09:21 AM
That looks pretty good and vintage.
hey- can you give us a direct link to that pump? i can tfind it on the website.
another consideration for a vintage pump- are they not some new models that go inside the seat tube and can be completly hidden? I like this as I also do not need to worry about it being stolen.
Bianchigirll
04-30-12, 09:29 AM
I have one that looks like this one, but is just an HP--no X. It's rated at 110psi, or thereabouts, but I have never gotten more than 85 out of it. I need to study up on how to make any frame pump reach its rated pressure.
You can get 100 from the HPX but it requires a bit of effort. The big difference is you can lockout the mounting spring on the HPX so your not working against it.
due ruote
04-30-12, 09:29 AM
hey- can you give us a direct link to that pump? i can tfind it on the website.
another consideration for a vintage pump- are they not some new models that go inside the seat tube and can be completly hidden? I like this as I also do not need to worry about it being stolen.
I haven't seen anything like that. Personally, I wouldn't want to have to remove my seatpost to change a flat, but ymmv.
jimmuller
04-30-12, 10:50 AM
I like my Topeak MasterBlaster frame pump. It's not terribly modern looking.
I have this one on three of my four function solo bikes. From 30ft away it looks stylish enough. From 30ft away a flat is still a flat so functionality is important.
I have one that looks like this one, but is just an HP--no X. It's rated at 110psi, or thereabouts, but I have never gotten more than 85 out of it.
My fourth solo bike has carried one of these for several decades. It has no trouble pushing close enough to 100psi to let me keep riding. Admittedly getting that kind of pressure is a lot of work.
fusatia
04-30-12, 11:42 AM
I can't believe I'm explaining this but check out the link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipped-cream_charger
http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj396/cs1sales/Whip-Its.jpg
http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj396/cs1sales/brasscracker1.jpg
I'm 26 and I know all about these because I spent 3 years of my life using/working with these. Ever been to a Starbucks? :thumb:
Back OT - Do actual "vintage" pumps hold up fairly well over the years, or can you replace the seals in them? I've never come across an older one (or really looked, yet, it's kind of low on my list), but I know even on newer ones they really lack the high pressure capability but I figured this was because of size.
Grand Bois
04-30-12, 11:55 AM
hey- can you give us a direct link to that pump? i can tfind it on the website.
another consideration for a vintage pump- are they not some new models that go inside the seat tube and can be completly hidden? I like this as I also do not need to worry about it being stolen.
Your question should have been directed at me, right? They may not be avialable from xxcycle anymore. They are available from other sources. Do they have Google in Finland?
I think that pump would probably fit in a seat tube, but I wouldn't put it there.
gaucho777
04-30-12, 12:43 PM
I didn't know what it is, but this is what I found:
How Whippet Cracker works
http://crackersnitrous.com/images/n2o-cracker2.pnghttp://n2ocrackers.com/images/n2o-cracker.pngA N2O dispenser is used to break the seal foil wrapper on the nitrous oxide tube. Any type of nitrous oxide tube that you can readily purchase at the store is going to have a foil tip. In order for you to get to the gas you need something to crack the whippet’s foil tip. You also have to release the gas in to a medium so it can warm a bit. Also with N2O dispensers (http://n2odispensers.com/) it is nice if they are small and easily concealable. If you have one of the bigger crackers they are hard to bring to parties without everyone knowing what you are doing. With most N2O whippet dispensers you are going to need a balloon for the whippet’s gas to flow into and then be easily used. Do not buy cheap balloons because they are a waste of money, they will break on you with only a couple of uses. You should always get thick and heavy duty balloons so they don’t break from the extremely cold temperatures that are released when cracking whippets.
PSA: This is a very bad idea. A friend of mine (well, brother of a friend) died from nitrous oxide poisoning/asphixiation. He was found in his apartment with a NO mask over his face. There are better ways to get your party on.
Yo Spiff
04-30-12, 12:48 PM
+1 on the Zefal HP or HP-X. It's what I've used since the 80's and the design hasn't changed much. It just works.
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