Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - I am Ready for 100 miler

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chefisaac
04-29-12, 02:24 PM
Today was great. Met up with Paisan, Will, and Ibohunt for a wonderful 80 mile ride. This ride was a bench mark, really, for me to see if I would be able to handle it and handle the 100 miler. I must say, it went VERY well.
We have been doing metric centuries the last three weekends and they have gotten easier with each one and I have learned a lot.
The last metric century, I walked away knowing that I needed to tweak a few things:
1) on the ride nutrition. I tried the store bought stuff and it was OK but wanted to try something home made with less ingredients, thinking that it might be better for my stomach
2) I needed a reminder to eat and drink. Time can slip away from you when riding.
3) My upper back and shoulders killed me on longer rides.
So last week, I tweaked stuff. I made a homemade simple (three ingredients really) energy bar. I also picked up my Edge 800 and learned (a little) how to use it. I mainly used it for the time alert so every 15 minutes, the alarm would beep and I knew to eat a little and drink a little. I also went in early last week and got another fitting, order some stuff, got new bar tape with gel and also new summer gloves.
Everything went great. Eating the bars and drinking every 15 minutes went awesome and I was never hungry nor thirsty. It is hard not to pound down the water because I love water so it was a challenge. The Garmin kicked @ss. I love that thing. Do not know how to use it but I love it. I also hooked up my HRM. I really do not know how to use it effectively but I am learning. And the changes I made on the bike were solid and helped out a lot too.
All in all, it was a great ride. 83.75 miles at a 15.9 mph average. Felt great.
I know my nutrition and hydration was solid on the bike because I used to feel soooooo tired on the drive home and for the rest of the night but not today!
Ibohunt: Great to meet you and thank you for making the long drive out and back. Thank you Chris for teaching me so much and thank you Will for being my "suffer" body.
I am now ready for the century! :)
chasm54
04-29-12, 03:02 PM
Good. Sixteen mph for 80 miles is very respectable. And there's no doubt that if you can ride 80 miles, you can ride 100.
You don't mention your neck and shoulders. Better? If so, make a note of how you've set the bike up so you can estimate the effect of future tweaking. When I first started experimenting with my set-up, I made the mistake of changing several things at a time so I didn't know which specific changes had made the difference.
lenny866
04-29-12, 03:20 PM
How about the recipe for your homemade energy bar? I would love to try it.
chefisaac
04-29-12, 03:21 PM
Thanks Chas.
Yes, upper back and shoulders rode well. I raised everything up, stem, etc. I was able to actually use the drops more too which was nice.
chefisaac
04-29-12, 05:11 PM
How about the recipe for your homemade energy bar? I would love to try it.
No prob. I will shoot it to you this week when I am at work. If you do not hear back from me, PM me. I do forget.
chefisaac
04-29-12, 05:12 PM
Congratulations!
Thank you Neil!
IBOHUNT
04-29-12, 05:55 PM
Thanks for letting me drag along Chef. Had a good time.
He could have done 100 today easy and then some. Strong rider.
Chefbars kick Cliff bars butt....
so good I think I ate all mine within 15 miles and then all I had was Cliff bars.
goldfinch
04-29-12, 06:11 PM
I want the bar recipe too!
And congratulations on the great ride.
It was a great ride, the bars were rocking..The company was good and "I Bow Hunt" is a friggin machine. Just a warning to any clydes thinking of riding with him, be prepared, very prepared...hahahahah
lenny866
04-29-12, 06:23 PM
Cheffbars!!!???!!! MMMMMM..you may be on to something!:thumb:
I think that recipe needs to be posted here. There certainly seems to be enough interest.
jethro56
04-29-12, 06:32 PM
You guys are machines! I couldn't average that for 20 miles let alone 80. Was this on packed limestone?
What hasn't been posted is that we shot out of the gate and averaged 17.9 for the first hour and we covered from miles 5 to 24 in an hour for a 19mph avg. :twitchy::twitchy:
The guys were killing it today... by guys I mean IBOHUNT
TrojanHorse
04-29-12, 07:56 PM
Chefbars! Chefbars! Chefbars!
I do confess that I like clifbars. They taste more like food than some energy bars. I'm always willing to upgrade though.
chefisaac
04-30-12, 12:38 AM
Chefbars! Chefbars! Chefbars!
I do confess that I like clifbars. They taste more like food than some energy bars. I'm always willing to upgrade though.
They can be too dry. The ones I made give you the opportunity to use wholesome nutrition as the base and can add on to that. I just hate looking at the ingredients statement and trying to figure out what each thing does. I often wonder if thats why upset stomachs happen on long rides.
chefisaac
04-30-12, 12:39 AM
You guys are machines! I couldn't average that for 20 miles let alone 80. Was this on packed limestone?
Roads were pretty nice, at least for South Jersey. The only roads that sucked where the chipped ones. Too much vibration.
chefisaac
04-30-12, 12:40 AM
It was a great ride, the bars were rocking..The company was good and "I Bow Hunt" is a friggin machine. Just a warning to any clydes thinking of riding with him, be prepared, very prepared...hahahahah
Yeah, with IBOHUNTS computer going slower and Will's computer saying we were doing 6 mph when we were doing 17 plus was funnier as heck. And there is no drafting off ibohunt. He is too small.
chasm54
04-30-12, 12:44 AM
Sixty-Fiver has a good recipe for home made bars. As far as I can remember it goes one cup honey, three cups oatmeal, a handful of dried fruit - raisins or chopped apricots or whatever - mixed together over heat then pressed out in a shallow dish, refrigerated and cut into bars. I thought they were pretty palatable. A tad sticky, though, so wrap them well...
They can be too dry. The ones I made give you the opportunity to use wholesome nutrition as the base and can add on to that. I just hate looking at the ingredients statement and trying to figure out what each thing does. I often wonder if thats why upset stomachs happen on long rides.
Maltodextrin. Its a sugar that can have a laxative effect if consumed in large amounts. Like, say, a couple or three energy bars.
Catlikeone
04-30-12, 05:36 AM
And there is no drafting off ibohunt. He is too small.
Railing on the little guy again I see :lol:
You guys are machines! I couldn't average that for 20 miles let alone 80. Was this on packed limestone?
I'll echo that sentiment. When I saw that stat, I couldn't believe it. That was one impressive ride.
chefisaac
04-30-12, 05:41 AM
Railing on the little guy again I see :lol:
Hard to draft off ya when u can't keep a line and/or when u keep crashing.
=)
chefisaac
04-30-12, 05:43 AM
I'll echo that sentiment. When I saw that stat, I couldn't believe it. That was one impressive ride.
This is a true testiment of what teamwork can do.
Catlikeone
04-30-12, 05:55 AM
Oh I got a taste of that the other day on a shop ride with 8 total newbs and saw my life flash before my eyes. :eek: Was completely horrified, mea maxima culpa.
chefisaac
04-30-12, 05:59 AM
Oh I got a taste of that the other day on a shop ride with 8 total newbs and saw my life flash before my eyes. :eek: Was completely horrified, mea maxima culpa.
Thought by now u would be used to seeing the life flash before your eyes. Or was that a pole??? =)
Catlikeone
04-30-12, 06:08 AM
No no, I only associate flashing and poles with clubbing lol.
chefisaac
04-30-12, 06:29 AM
Drunk before or at the club? =)
No no, I only associate flashing and poles with clubbing lol.
Good Girl!!
Drunk before or at the club? =)
She needed the Whiskey to take the edge off of the fact that I convinced her to go to a Country Rock concert.
Catlikeone
04-30-12, 08:40 AM
In the mid-way point Issac, I'm goldilocks like that. Too early, I never make it. Too late, the party never started.
Chris, I told you about good girl. That whiskey was for you for introducing me to something other than Euro trance and black metal before I think I spilled it on you while trying juggle my long islands. Poor whiskey shot.. it was the good stuff too, I'm pretty sure.
wfournier
04-30-12, 08:54 AM
wow this thread went downhill fast lol.
Catlikeone
04-30-12, 08:59 AM
Issac started it!
IBOHUNT
04-30-12, 09:07 AM
You guys are machines! I couldn't average that for 20 miles let alone 80. Was this on packed limestone?
Wasn't on packed limestone, some good roads and others not so good. Pretty flat from what I am used to. I thought I was in Florida where the 'terrain' is a ditch on the side of the road. I swear I watched the same dog run away for the first hour.
IBOHUNT
04-30-12, 09:11 AM
Yeah, with IBOHUNTS computer going slower and Will's computer saying we were doing 6 mph when we were doing 17 plus was funnier as heck. And there is no drafting off ibohunt. He is too small.
Thanks!
and I am not changing my computer, it's only off 1 mph. You just have to learn to keep up :). Besides, that lets me sandbag
wow this thread went downhill fast lol.
This is one of those threads that makes me feel good about not drinking.
No no, I only associate flashing and poles with clubbing lol.
Did you mean to post this in the "what I do for a living" thread?
This is one of those threads that makes me feel good about not drinking.
Yeah because having a good time with friends totally sucks.
Catlikeone
04-30-12, 10:06 AM
That's adorable that you think so highly of me but alas no, my bibs will stay on. Please feel free to demonstrate what you meant though, just let me get through my bottle of Jack first, some blurry memories are a good thing.
Yeah because having a good time with friends totally sucks.
No, I enjoy having a good time. I don't need drugs to do it, and I'll remember it the next morning.
Catlikeone
04-30-12, 10:39 AM
Unleash or not unleash...Decisions :rolleyes:
Ya know what, Neil? Sounds like you're feeling froggy, why not take the direct approach instead of directing that at Paisan in characteristic passive aggressive style?
Goes something like "You wouldn't know a good time if it *****slapped you with a glitter skull belt. Your space at the pouty section is getting cold, you needn't have left it as soon as you heard someone else was enjoying themselves".
Ya know, that's just an example. It's called reaching down and being direct if you're gonna be an a$$hole.
We were being facetious here in jovial tone.
No, I enjoy having a good time. I don't need drugs to do it, and I'll remember it the next morning.
Maybe you should. It would probably loosen you up a bit so your panties won't be twisted so tight all the time.
Maybe you should. It would probably loosen you up a bit so your panties won't be twisted so tight all the time.
Seems like you and your girlfriend are the only ones getting anything twisted here. Rest of us are just having a good time.
Wasn't on packed limestone, some good roads and others not so good. Pretty flat from what I am used to. I thought I was in Florida where the 'terrain' is a ditch on the side of the road. I swear I watched the same dog run away for the first hour.
So Ibohunt, are you in for CASA in two weeks? I'll be riding the 'offroad' route on the C & O - I'm in no condition for the road ride and those WV hills.
Seems like you and your girlfriend are the only ones getting anything twisted here. Rest of us are just having a good time.
Pretty snappy comeback, did you think of that all on your own or remember it from 5th grade ?
jethro56
04-30-12, 11:26 AM
I remember all four years of fifth grade.
Catlikeone
04-30-12, 11:28 AM
Seems like you and your girlfriend are the only ones getting anything twisted here. Rest of us are just having a good time.
Jealous much? Excuse me for the lack of googly eyes and exaltation. Really, it's probably because I prefer men with real cojones, I'm picky like that. The ones that say things in person not with E-penis that needs a daily stroking by the herd and makes side of mouth comments. Standing up to woman is something I can respect, because really if you can't stand up to a mere woman, how in the hell are you gonna stand up to kings?
My siggy is a reference tool on that btw.
I remember all four years of fifth grade.
:roflmao:
Well played sir, well played.
digibud
04-30-12, 11:34 AM
that's a great average speed. If you drop your average heart rate you can do another 20 for sure. I did a 130 mi ride last year by simply taking my time and keeping fueled up. At some point the challenge becomes just a matter of how fast can you do the 100 mi. I could not keep a 16mph average up for even 80 mi so kudos to you. It's only a question of finding the right heart rate/speed to allow yourself to do 100 or more miles.
BTW..the home made energy bars didn't happen unless you post a recipe...
chefisaac
04-30-12, 11:48 AM
I remember all four years of fifth grade.
+1 :)
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