Hybrid Bicycles - Anyone using more than one set of bar ends?

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TomCat_Ford
06-13-12, 02:52 PM
Hey folks,

I'm curious about whether or not others are running more than one set of bar ends on their flat-bar hybrids. As of right now, I only have the factory bar ends installed on my Giant Rapid. I have been considering going with some Origin 8 drop-bar bar ends for a few more hand positions. I find myself using my bar ends at least 65% of the time on my longer rides, but my hands start getting a little tingly around the 30 mile mark (sometimes).

In order to get a few more positions, I was thinking about doing the following:

-Move shifters, brake levers, and grips inward
-Install drop-bar bar ends
-Install factory bar ends on the outside

Has anyone done this, or should I just install the drop-bar bar ends and call it good? My thought is that having the factory bar ends gives me one more hand position, which seems like it would be a plus. There appears to be more than enough real estate on my handlebars to install both bar ends.

Thanks in advance,


-Tom


no1mad
06-13-12, 04:24 PM
I've read accounts where people who tried those Origin 8 drop ends, they either hated them or converted over to drop bars altogether in short order. That being said, I too have toyed with the idea of using two different bar ends at the same time. My concept would require a new, flatter bar (mine has too much bend/sweep):

-Move the current ones inboard of all of the controls.
-Then mount something like the Cane Creek Ergo II's at the end of the bars.

That would give me a narrow profile to kinda cheat the wind a bit, as well as another position that replicates the hoods of a wide drop bar.

TomCat_Ford
06-13-12, 07:38 PM
I figure for the price, the drop-bar bar ends are worth a shot. I'm not entirely sure that I want a drop-bar bike at this point, so this would help me get my feet wet. That said, my bar doesn't have any bend to it, it's just a basic flat bar (thankfully).

Your idea sounds like a good one, too. I think I read about a similar setup on Sheldon Brown's site last summer when I was browsing that site.


PatrickGSR94
06-13-12, 08:11 PM
What about putting the drop bar ends in between your grips and controls? That would get you a narrower stance closer to that of actual drop bars. I think drop bar ends outside of your grips would be way too far apart.

TomCat_Ford
06-13-12, 08:44 PM
That's a good thought--there certainly are a lot of different options!

With that being said, I did go ahead and order the bar ends and some bar tape. Paid a little over $30 for both, so the order wasn't too hard on my cycling budget. I bought some cycling shoes and cleats last week, though, so I need to watch what I spend. Soon enough, I'll be getting the evil eye from my fiancee! :innocent:

TomCat_Ford
06-16-12, 12:27 PM
Since it's so hot out today (90's and humid), the bike isn't leaving the house. I ended up going over the bike since she's almost to the 500 mile mark. I cleaned and lubed the chain (I do this every 100-150miles), re-greased the front wheel bearing, made a couple of minor cable adjustments, etc. I also got my new FSA seat post today. The factory seat post was offset and also had a fixed pitch angle. The new one is 0 offset and has a two-bolt pitch adjustment (I love those setups, have one on my MTB). The offset seat post was causing me to ride too far forward on the saddle, but the new one seems to be prefect.

That being said, I also did some more thinking about where to put the new bar ends. After taking some measurements, I'm thinking that if I put them between the grips and the controls, my stance will be far too narrow (about 4" narrower than the width of my shoulders). They will be wider than my shoulders if I put them between the factory bar ends and my grips, but I think the positioning will be more comfortable.

I'm really looking forward to those arriving! I did a couple of 30 mile rides this past week, and I am about ready to step up the distance. The second ride was on a windy day--those drop-bar bar ends would really have helped!

Igo
06-16-12, 12:29 PM
I never use the bar ends that I have.

PatrickGSR94
06-16-12, 02:13 PM
I barely used my bar ends when they were out on the ends of my handlebars. I moved them last night to between grips and controls and they seem MUCH more useful and comfortable to me now.

TomCat_Ford
06-16-12, 02:37 PM
I saw that in your thread, glad the setup is working well for you. The reason I think I will be more comfortable with them further out is because I'm very comfortable riding on the factory bar ends now.

LesterOfPuppets
06-16-12, 02:43 PM
I dunno how I'd feel about riding in the drops when they don't have brake levers on 'em.

I do run two sets of barends, though. The inner set acts as a sleeping bag rack for touring and I often hang my lock on 'em when riding around town.

luxo
06-17-12, 12:39 AM
I never use the bar ends that I have.
At least they look cool on your Escape. :rolleyes:

Igo
06-17-12, 06:34 AM
LOL.
Well, actually, I'm heading to REI today to pick up a set of these. I think I'll get more use out of these.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp230/igonator/ee16d4a4-694a-4305-8e1d-402701bcc28f.jpg

luxo
06-17-12, 09:26 AM
Hmm, I have no experience with those types of bar ends. Aren't they too stubby?

David Bierbaum
06-17-12, 10:43 AM
I don't know why, but when I read the title of this thread, my imagination conjured up a picture of bar ends on bar ends for a result that looks more like a deer's antlers than a handlebar! ;)

With Ergon, you can get something that is more of a "bar end" on the end of the grip, if you go with the GP3.

Igo
06-17-12, 11:17 AM
Hmm, I have no experience with those types of bar ends. Aren't they too stubby?

Negative. Your palm ball still rests on the grip and you have 3 fingers on the bar end instead of reaching outward to wrap your entire hand around the bar end, That is why I'm buying a set today.
I also ordered Kool Stop Salmon brake shoes for my commuter to day as well. That should finish this bike.

Igo
06-17-12, 03:24 PM
I just finished installing the Ergon GP2 Bar Ends. (see post 12) and they are nice. A lot more surfave area for your palms and when you want to cgange hand position you just lay your thumb across the top of the grips and wrap your finger around the ends. Very cozy and closer to where you are. I was also able to saw 1 inch total off the bars to bring them in a touch. I like that too. Almost finished with this bike.

Paul Barnard
06-18-12, 03:56 AM
I have the drop bar ends on my commuter and love them. Someone asked why not just go with a drop bar bike? There are two reasons. If you already have a flat bar bike the drop bar ends cost 20 bucks whereas a drop bar conversion would cost appreciably more. Another advantage of the drop bar ends is that when you are riding in traffic you tend to want to sit up for a better vantage point. It's nice to have the controls on the flats for urban riding.

TomCat_Ford
06-18-12, 05:36 AM
I suspect that I will like mine for the same reasons. Thanks.

TomCat_Ford
06-20-12, 12:56 PM
The bar ends came today, and thankfully I have today off! My plan to use both sets of bar ends didn't work out very well. When I tried setting it up, I did not have enough room for my light (the gear indicator hit it). The good news is that I will probably be fine without the factory bar ends. My bar tape wrap job isn't the greatest, but this was my first time doing it. So all things considered, it doesn't look too shabby.

I took the bike out for a quick spin around my driveway a few times to test the positions, and I think I'm really going to like these bar ends. It is currently in the mid 90's, humid, and a little windy, so there is no way that I will be able take it out for a ride just yet. I also went out for a ride early this morning before the temps got too high. I will post back once I have gotten a good chance to test them out. There's still a chance that I might venture out today, but we'll see how much the temp drops.

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PatrickGSR94
06-20-12, 01:37 PM
Cool, though it still seems like they'll be too far apart out there at the ends. Did you try putting them between handlebar grips and your controls? Or would they not work in that location?

TomCat_Ford
06-20-12, 03:13 PM
I didn't try it, but I'm almost positive that they won't work there because they will interfere with the brake levers. I still think that would be too narrow, as well. I liked the factory bar ends where they were, so I think the same will be true for these bar ends.

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that it cools down a bit before dark!

PatrickGSR94
06-20-12, 03:51 PM
Gotcha, my bar ends inboard of my grips are pretty much exactly shoulder width apart, but my bars may be wider than yours.

tahoe_girl
06-20-12, 04:40 PM
The bar ends came today, and thankfully I have today off! My plan to use both sets of bar ends didn't work out very well. When I tried setting it up, I did not have enough room for my light (the gear indicator hit it). The good news is that I will probably be fine without the factory bar ends. My bar tape wrap job isn't the greatest, but this was my first time doing it. So all things considered, it doesn't look too shabby.

I took the bike out for a quick spin around my driveway a few times to test the positions, and I think I'm really going to like these bar ends. It is currently in the mid 90's, humid, and a little windy, so there is no way that I will be able take it out for a ride just yet. I also went out for a ride early this morning before the temps got too high. I will post back once I have gotten a good chance to test them out. There's still a chance that I might venture out today, but we'll see how much the temp drops.

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I'm curious on how these drop bar ends held up on a longer ride. About a month ago I bought a '12 Trek 7.6 and though I love the bike itself, I was looking at doing the drop conversion for extra hand positions. I will be attempting my first century in September on this new bike, but I didn't go with a drop/road bike because my weekly commute is about 100+ miles and I find myself in a variety of differant scenarios (off road, bike path, bike lane on the highway, through neighborhoods with stop signs/lights, etc). For the price of the drop bar ends, I think I may give them a shot. Did they hold up in good shape on the longer rides?

TomCat_Ford
06-20-12, 07:43 PM
Gotcha, my bar ends inboard of my grips are pretty much exactly shoulder width apart, but my bars may be wider than yours.Yeah, according to my measurements, I'd be narrower than my shoulders if I could even mount them there.
I'm curious on how these drop bar ends held up on a longer ride. About a month ago I bought a '12 Trek 7.6 and though I love the bike itself, I was looking at doing the drop conversion for extra hand positions. I will be attempting my first century in September on this new bike, but I didn't go with a drop/road bike because my weekly commute is about 100+ miles and I find myself in a variety of differant scenarios (off road, bike path, bike lane on the highway, through neighborhoods with stop signs/lights, etc). For the price of the drop bar ends, I think I may give them a shot. Did they hold up in good shape on the longer rides?You definitely cannot beat the price!

I just installed them today, so I have not yet had a chance to take them out for a long ride--too hot! I'll definitely report back on how they do over longer distances, though.

With that being said, I did get a chance to go out for a ride tonight before it got too dark. It was still 90 degrees, but I really wanted to try the bar ends. I went for a fast-paced 10 mile ride (18mph average speed), and so far, I really like the bar ends. The lower position is comfortable and noticeably more efficient. My ride tonight had two moderate climbs and several small climbs, but no out-of-the-saddle climbs (did that this morning, been working on my climbing this week). The only downside I see so far is that when riding on the top of them, I feel a lot more road vibration than I did with my old bar ends. I'm happy thus far, though. I want to try to get a 30 mile ride in this weekend, so we'll see how they work on longer rides. Not sure if I will be able to ride tomorrow or not yet.

Good luck with the century ride, by the way!

tahoe_girl
06-20-12, 09:12 PM
Do you think if I add double bar tape that will help with the vibrations?

Igo
06-20-12, 09:52 PM
Do you think if I add double bar tape that will help with the vibrations?

Ergon GP2-S Grips

http://www.rei.com/product/837503/ergon-gp2-s-grips-small

Pearl Izumi Select Gel Bike Gloves

http://www.rei.com/product/810709/pearl-izumi-select-gel-bike-gloves-womens

no1mad
06-20-12, 10:31 PM
Ergon GP2-S Grips

http://www.rei.com/product/837503/ergon-gp2-s-grips-small

Pearl Izumi Select Gel Bike Gloves

http://www.rei.com/product/810709/pearl-izumi-select-gel-bike-gloves-womensMissed the reading assignment, did we? j/k.

I know you're just trying to help, but you're giving advice out of context. She was inquiring the OP as to whether or not using bar tape would help reduce the vibrations that the OP is experiencing with those drop bar ends from Origin8. Don't think Ergons would work on those ends.

Also, tahoe_girl- you might want to do a bit of research before ordering those bar ends. The specs for your bike states that the handlebar incorporates IsoZone. There were reports of people having issues with adding after market bar ends- the design of the bar apparently made it impossible to use any. Don't know if the design has been updated to correct what many people considered a major flaw. There's a thread around here somewhere about it...

no1mad
06-20-12, 10:40 PM
Here's the thread I mentioned about the IsoZone bar: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/686254-Can-t-attach-bar-ends-on-the-2011-Trek-7-5-FX?highlight=trek+7.5fx

TomCat_Ford
06-21-12, 06:50 AM
Do you think if I add double bar tape that will help with the vibrations?I'm not sure, to be honest. The vibrations are not terrible, though; I would compare them to the vibrations I feel through my hand grips.

I believe the reason why the factory bar ends helped with the vibrations was because of the way that my hands were positioned (holding on to them vertically vs. horizontally). Because of the vertical hand position, there is less weight on my hands and, therefore, fewer vibrations felt through the bar ends.

giantcfr1
06-21-12, 08:20 AM
I'm curious on how these drop bar ends held up on a longer ride. About a month ago I bought a '12 Trek 7.6 and though I love the bike itself, I was looking at doing the drop conversion for extra hand positions. I will be attempting my first century in September on this new bike, but I didn't go with a drop/road bike because my weekly commute is about 100+ miles and I find myself in a variety of differant scenarios (off road, bike path, bike lane on the highway, through neighborhoods with stop signs/lights, etc). For the price of the drop bar ends, I think I may give them a shot. Did they hold up in good shape on the longer rides?

Whilst I think TomCat....'s bike looks great and suits his needs, I don't think they would be the best choice for you if you have multiple stop signs / lights etc on your commute. It is no way you could brake quickly in an emergency (car cut out etc..) if you are in the drops and still using your MTB levers.

In your situation, I'd recommend a real drop bar with a conversion to STI levers and a set of auxiliary levers for when you are on top of the bars, if you are serious about the drop bar position. Much safer.

tahoe_girl
06-21-12, 03:38 PM
Whilst I think TomCat....'s bike looks great and suits his needs, I don't think they would be the best choice for you if you have multiple stop signs / lights etc on your commute. It is no way you could brake quickly in an emergency (car cut out etc..) if you are in the drops and still using your MTB levers.

In your situation, I'd recommend a real drop bar with a conversion to STI levers and a set of auxiliary levers for when you are on top of the bars, if you are serious about the drop bar position. Much safer.

Thanks so much for the input. Of course it will vary, but how much does a typical drop conversion cost?

giantcfr1
06-21-12, 05:25 PM
Thanks so much for the input. Of course it will vary, but how much does a typical drop conversion cost?

I don`t live in the States, so I don`t know prices. If you have some roadie friends, chances are they have an old set of drop bars they don`t need. Then maybe all you need are v-brake / disc compatible brake levers (like cyclocross), bar tape, and hopefully your deraileurs will be ok. That`s in a perfect world. BTW, what stem do you have? I have no idea what your bike is, but it shouldn`t cost too much if you`re wise about it. Have a look at the many dropbar threads on here for ideas.

TomCat_Ford
06-23-12, 09:45 AM
Just got done riding 30 miles. It was an absolutely beautiful morning, so the trails on my regular 30 mile route were busy. Even still, I had a 17mph average without taking any breaks (ate a protein bar at mile 17 while riding). The bar ends are working great! I couldn't use them as much as I would have liked due to the pedestrian traffic and such, but I used them as much as I could. I only used the drop portion a couple of times when riding on a stretch of road that is always windy and has a decent amount of traffic. Other than that, I used the top portion, and it was great. Absolutely zero hand numbness or discomfort over the ride. Like I said earlier in this thread, my hands would occasionally go numb towards the end of a long ride with my other bar ends, and that was with taking a break at mile 17.

I still haven't done any major climbs with them yet; I plan on doing that Monday morning. I think I am going to stick with the routine I used this past week: 15 mile hilly rides to work on climbing during the week when my time is limited and longer rides on the weekend.

So anyway, the bottom line is that I am very happy with these bar ends (so far). I think a few wannabe Lance Armstrong roadies scoffed at me, but what else is new.:rolleyes:

Northstarmtb
06-30-12, 01:28 AM
What a coincidence...while visiting a website regarding drop bar ends I had the idea to mount such in addition to the original factory bar ends already on my 17 y/o mtb. I googled to see if there were any such usages and lo and behold I find this subject on bikeforums.net. But what is more coincidental I didn't even take notice of the date of this thread until I see that there is mention of June and temperatures in the 90's; then I notice that the date is 20 June 2012 and here I am ten days later.
So will I add drop bar ends to my aging department store mountain bike? Maybe. But at the rate I find myself replacing parts and making repairs I am looking at the possible purchase of something a little more up to date. Will it be another department store bike? Walmart carries a nice looking Raleigh Sojourn but I would like to get something that is a little lighter than my present 40 pound mtb.

TomCat_Ford
06-30-12, 09:56 AM
I say go for a decent bike shop bike and get yourself something nice. It'll be lighter, smoother, built better, etc. If you like biking, you won't regret it!

Since I'm posting here, I might as well update the thread on how the bar ends are working out. I'm still really liking them. I find that I do not use the drops very often at all (only on steep downhills or when there's a headwind). I do, however, use the top part quite often, and it has been very comfortable. My hands feel great even after 34 miles of solid riding (and that's with about 5 miles of loose gravel off-road riding).