Bicycle Mechanics - Need help with 1948 Sturmey Archer AW hub

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G1nko
06-18-12, 11:43 AM
I recently acquired a 1948 Raliegh Dawn Tourist. The bike was sitting in a warehouse for 50 years and hadn't been move during that time.

This weekend, I disassembled the hub and gave it three kerosene baths. The first was dark and muddy, the second kind of gray, and the third one clear. I repacked the bearings and reassembled the hub. I then gave it a couple good squirts of Phil's Tenacious Oil.

I relaced the wheel and while spinning the wheel on the truing stand, I heard a light, but disconcerting, scraping sound coming from inside the hub. I removed the R.H. cone and the driver and gave the hub a spin. It sounds like the clutch is scraping against the planet body, but it could be the axle key scraping against the clutch; it's hard to tell for sure, but that's the area it's coming from.

How much oil is enough? I see a light coating on everything, but certainly there's not an oil bath. Is this the likely culprit, or something more serious?


onespeedbiker
06-18-12, 11:58 AM
The Strumey Archer hubs only require a few teaspoons of oil but you still need to grease any ball bearings. I recently serviced a 1969 AW and it was as good as new. Hopefully you checked the Sheldon Brown site http://sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer/aw.html

Edit: this is a great You tube resource http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea6krXSs-lc

fietsbob
06-18-12, 12:01 PM
Well they have not changed much since .. I think all the AW3 parts are interchangeable.

Not there so I cannot see your issue .. this is just text, not presence.

Like above poster, I used grease on the wheel bearings ,
Phil tenacious squirted in the indicator chain hollow axle end..

Aarons bike repair in Seattle is willing to overhaul IGH..

hubstripping blog is an internal gear information sharing site.

a lot of pictures taken likely required for possible remote information gathering ..

:50: Us Old folks just take things apart and look for worn parts.


gmt13
06-18-12, 06:37 PM
When you disassembled the hub, did you tear it down completely to look at the wear points or did you just pull the innards out and clean them as a unit? With a hub this old, it may have some parts that need replacement.

-G

G1nko
06-18-12, 06:56 PM
I tore the hub down completely and checked out the wear points. I have no reason to disbelieve the guy when he said the bike hadn't moved in 50 years; the rest of the bike is in pristine condition except for a little warehouse grime. All the gold and red pinstriping is pretty much intact, for example. The only thing I saw on the internal parts was varnish.

I looked at these comments and felt I hadn't packed the ball cage properly so I redid that and dumped another teaspoon of oil directly into the hub. I looked at Sheldon's page again and saw I completely muffed the cone adjustment so I redid that also. One or all of those things did it because the hub purrs like a clickety little kitten now.

Thanks for the help.

Andrew R Stewart
06-18-12, 09:45 PM
AW hubs need a bit of bearing adjustment slop. And specific RH cone initial positioning. Sounds like you dealt with these OK in the end. Andy.