Foo - Urgghh…They Shot A Hole In My Roof

The day after July 4th I notice a nice hole in my porch roof. It is a single layer metal roof so I thought it was possible that a branch fell from a tree and punctured it. Later that evening I climbed up on a ladder to take a look. Hum, no branch or any other object to be found. I turned to CSI mode and thought last night was July 4th. I heard celebratory gun fire not too far away. I bet if I look under my porch furniture I might find something and behold on the floor was the slug.
I don’t live in a rural area. This was right in the middle of the city. I wish they would explain to these people that what goes up must come down. I guess I was lucky, another guy in this area got hit in the face by a falling bullet on July 4th while he was watching fireworks.

call police...give them the slug. Perhaps forensics can id. the gun....it may have been used in other crimes.

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find out the caliber, buy a gun, reload your own ammo using that slug. Shoot it back into the air. For bonus points, stand where you found the slug on the porch and shoot it back out the hole in your roof.

find out the caliber, buy a gun, reload your own ammo using that slug. Shoot it back into the air. For bonus points, stand where you found the slug on the porch and shoot it back out the hole in your roof.

To reseal the hole?...that's Texas cretin logic for you :rolleyes:

Really? Who just shoots guns up in the air? Are people to stupid to realize that the bullets have to come down again?

To reseal the hole?...that's Texas cretin logic for you :rolleyes:

No, to return the lost slug to it's rightful owner hopefully. duh.

Really? Who just shoots guns up in the air? Are people to stupid to realize that the bullets have to come down again?

The NRA fully supports one's right to endanger unarmed innocent bystanders, you commie freak.

About twenty years ago my brand new car was parked on a downtown street on New Year's Eve/Morning. Just after midnight my car alarm goes off. I go outside and my car appears OK and I shut the damned alarm off. I figure the thing is set too sensitive and the fireworks must have set it off.

The next day I'm at my neighbors house on their outside stair's landing that is maybe 4m above street level. I look down to admire my new car and notice this walnut size crater in my hood!

I look around and in the bed of the pickup parked in front of my car I find a .38 or 9mm slug.

call police...give them the slug. Perhaps forensics can id. the gun....it may have been used in other crimes.

Last year a little boy was hit in the head by a bullet on July 4th also in this area. He suffered much worse. The police admitted in the news article that there was nothing they could do to track down where the bullet was fired.

I'm not sure what you could even accomplish if you matched it to a gun other than a possible criminal also likes to fire guns off in the air. I'm sure minimal property damage doesn't rate too high on the LEO's list of things to worry about. Right now I'm going to keep it as a unfortunate souvenir.

The NRA fully supports one's right to endanger unarmed innocent bystanders, you commie freak.

About twenty years ago my brand new car was parked on a downtown street on New Year's Eve/Morning. Just after midnight my car alarm goes off. I go outside and my car appears OK and I shut the damned alarm off. I figure the thing is set too sensitive and the fireworks must have set it off.

The next day I'm at my neighbors house on their outside stair's landing that is maybe 4m above street level. I look down to admire my new car and notice this walnut size crater in my hood!

I look around and in the bed of the pickup parked in front of my car I find a .38 or 9mm slug.


That sucks!

BTW...I'm flattered you are using my missing baby bolts photochop as your avatar. :thumb:

Last year a little boy was hit in the head by a bullet on July 4th also in this area. He suffered much worse. The police admitted in the news article that there was nothing they could do to track down where the bullet was fired.

I'm not sure what you could even accomplish if you matched it to a gun other than a possible criminal also likes to fire guns off in the air. I'm sure minimal property damage doesn't rate too high on the LEO's list of things to worry about. Right now I'm going to keep it as a unfortunate souvenir.

It would simply be another charge to bring against the idiot when he/she is found.

That sucks!

BTW...I'm flattered you are using my missing baby bolts photochop as your avatar. :thumb:

It's EXCELLENT! I wanted a new avatar and at the time there were all these references to that thread. I was re-reading the thread for amusement and I saw your handiwork, laughed again at it and knew that was just the image I wanted. Thanks!

Play their game.
From the hole you can tell the trijectory(sp)/angle of the shot.Lay on the floor,shoot back a new slug(same roof hole) while yelling,

"happy 6th of July you bast.........!"

find out the caliber, buy a gun, reload your own ammo using that slug. Shoot it back into the air. For bonus points, stand where you found the slug on the porch and shoot it back out the hole in your roof.

Sorry,I did a similar off the wall,immature suggestion without reading all the previous posts.

I hate stupid people with guns ,They ruin it for us who use are brains and gun safety when handling any firearm

Build a stronger roof?

I hate stupid people with guns ,They ruin it for us who use are brains and gun safety when handling any firearm

I always uz are brains when sootzin my gunz.

I made a thread about this during Christmas and I was trolled because when the bullet comes down (ppl said) it has no power to hurt anyone. Assuming that was correct (cite your 100 years old army studies here), we must conclude that the slug must have been fired *AT YOUR ROOF* instead of into the air.

Bullets fired into the air will do one of two things. A) are fired at a steep enough of an angle where they loose all rotation and speed at their highest altitude and tumble back to earth at their terminal velocity. Typically this is not enough to seriously injure a person, but a kid or a thin metal roof may be another story. B) are fired at a low enough angle where the round never looses its trajectory and rotation. In this case, they can still very much be dangerous to human life not to mention personal property as they retain most of their energy (aside from the friction from the air and a few other minor losses that I'm sure a physics major will bring up if I only said wind).

Firing any firearm in any direction where you are not certain where the round will impact is incredibly irresponsible and downright stupid. Sadly, often people forget these tenants of firearm safety after enough beer is consumed.

// headed to the gun range this weekend.

Bullets fired into the air will do one of two things. A) are fired at a steep enough of an angle where they loose all rotation and speed at their highest altitude and tumble back to earth at their terminal velocity. Typically this is not enough to seriously injure a person, but a kid or a thin metal roof may be another story. B) are fired at a low enough angle where the round never looses its trajectory and rotation. In this case, they can still very much be dangerous to human life not to mention personal property as they retain most of their energy (aside from the friction from the air and a few other minor losses that I'm sure a physics major will bring up if I only said wind).

Firing any firearm in any direction where you are not certain where the round will impact is incredibly irresponsible and downright stupid. Sadly, often people forget these tenants of firearm safety after enough beer is consumed.

// headed to the gun range this weekend.

A gun range in Texas???????????
I thought people just kicked open the front door,poped open a few cold ones,start plinking away at prarie dogs and tumbleweeds.

I've always sed, a gun is a tool, tools don't kill people, it's the bullets that do all the hurt. why just the other day my hammer misfired and killed a chicken on the ricochet.

last year on are news a kid was killed froma bullet fired in the air the thing that made it even worst he was in church

Sadly, many people aren't safe with guns. Even cops and people who should know better.

Bullets fired into the air will do one of two things. A) are fired at a steep enough of an angle where they loose all rotation and speed at their highest altitude and tumble back to earth at their terminal velocity. Typically this is not enough to seriously injure a person, but a kid or a thin metal roof may be another story. B) are fired at a low enough angle where the round never looses its trajectory and rotation. In this case, they can still very much be dangerous to human life not to mention personal property as they retain most of their energy (aside from the friction from the air and a few other minor losses that I'm sure a physics major will bring up if I only said wind).

Firing any firearm in any direction where you are not certain where the round will impact is incredibly irresponsible and downright stupid. Sadly, often people forget these tenants of firearm safety after enough beer is consumed.

// headed to the gun range this weekend.

Hate to tell you but a bullet fired directely skyward will be falling from a couple miles up, and even though not a direct shot it will injure or kill you. Firing guns into the air is a jackass move anyway. Hell in Iraq I was more scared of wedding parties than them actually trying to hit me.

t (http://news.yahoo.com/florida-mans-silver-medallion-stops-falling-bullet-fireworks-180629835--abc-news-topstories.html)imely news story

Really? Who just shoots guns up in the air? Are people to stupid to realize that the bullets have to come down again?

That is what I can't figure. If you really want to make noise with you firearm, get a big bucket of sand and fire into that.

Hate to tell you but a bullet fired directely skyward will be falling from a couple miles up, and even though not a direct shot it will injure or kill you. Firing guns into the air is a jackass move anyway.

This myth has been debunked many times. The Army did very extensive studies of this and determined that bullets fired up in the air were not a danger to troops. In the Army's studies they used .30 cal machine guns, firing projectiles very much more powerful than the average 9mm or whatever that the local gangbangers have. The army managed to slightly dent a metal bucket and slightly dent a wooden boat dock, that was all. Fastforward many years and the myth still lives, so Mythbusters took their shot at it. They debunked it also.

Bullets falling from several miles up reach terminal velocity just like skydivers do. A skydiver falling from several miles up will reach a terminal velocity of something near 100 miles per hour. A bullet will reach slightly higher velocity, but it doesn't matter if it falls from 1000 feet up or 10 miles up, it still falls at the same velocity. That velocity is not enough to seriously injure a person. The terminal velocity depends on the ballistic coefficient of the falling object, which is a relationship of its size, shape and mass. More substantial items such as a projectile from a 5" artillery shell can actually fall at supersonic speed, but comparing a bullet with this is like comparing a feather with a rock.

If a person was injured as a result of someone shooting up in the air, or some property was damaged, then there is more to it than someone just shooting up in the air. Think about how the army fought in WWI- they were shooting at enemy troops 1000 yards away so they had to shoot up in the air a little bit, but they weren't shooting directly skyward they were just shooting slightly above the horizon. The bullets would come down on top of the enemy troops but at a higher velocity than if you shot them directly skyward.

I found lots of information by doing a google search, some interesting reading here although he misquotes the Army research slightly.

http://www.bobtuley.com/shooting_straight_up.htm

None of this means that firing up in the air isn't a jackass move.

We already got together and tested the "falling projectiles" issue:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0dtX8dJJ50
Please note we used a double in Inge's place... for her safety.

i'll trade you. the jackass with a gun in my 'hood shot two holes in the little old lady across the street on july 4th.

The hole could not have come from direct fire unless someone was significantly higher than my roof. They would have had to climb a pretty tall nearby tree.
There was another story in the paper of a woman who was sitting on her drive way and got hit in the leg by a falling bullet from this July 4th. The bullet was still in her leg when she went to the hospital.

t (http://news.yahoo.com/florida-mans-silver-medallion-stops-falling-bullet-fireworks-180629835--abc-news-topstories.html)imely news story
Thjis implies that a bullet that was coming pretty straight down (if it went through his jaw and hit him in the chest) can cause some damage.

This myth has been debunked many times. The Army did very extensive studies of this and determined that bullets fired up in the air were not a danger to troops. In the Army's studies they used .30 cal machine guns, firing projectiles very much more powerful than the average 9mm or whatever that the local gangbangers have. The army managed to slightly dent a metal bucket and slightly dent a wooden boat dock, that was all. Fastforward many years and the myth still lives, so Mythbusters took their shot at it. They debunked it also.

Bullets falling from several miles up reach terminal velocity just like skydivers do. A skydiver falling from several miles up will reach a terminal velocity of something near 100 miles per hour. A bullet will reach slightly higher velocity, but it doesn't matter if it falls from 1000 feet up or 10 miles up, it still falls at the same velocity. That velocity is not enough to seriously injure a person. The terminal velocity depends on the ballistic coefficient of the falling object, which is a relationship of its size, shape and mass. More substantial items such as a projectile from a 5" artillery shell can actually fall at supersonic speed, but comparing a bullet with this is like comparing a feather with a rock.

If a person was injured as a result of someone shooting up in the air, or some property was damaged, then there is more to it than someone just shooting up in the air. Think about how the army fought in WWI- they were shooting at enemy troops 1000 yards away so they had to shoot up in the air a little bit, but they weren't shooting directly skyward they were just shooting slightly above the horizon. The bullets would come down on top of the enemy troops but at a higher velocity than if you shot them directly skyward.

I found lots of information by doing a google search, some interesting reading here although he misquotes the Army research slightly.

http://www.bobtuley.com/shooting_straight_up.htm

None of this means that firing up in the air isn't a jackass move.

Never mind, I see Ruben already answered that.