Professional Cycling For the Fans - Tall Riders

Bradley Wiggins (6'3"), Chris Froome (6'1"), Tejay van Garderen (6'1"). Many of the top guys in this year's tour are all tall. I thought being tall was a disadvantage for tour riders.

Apparently not. :D

Bradley Wiggins (6'3"), Chris Froome (6'1"), Tejay van Garderen (6'1"). Many of the top guys in this year's tour are all tall. I thought being tall was a disadvantage for tour riders.

Look at how much they weigh.

Seems like the tall guys are good at TT and climbing...which puts them in Yellow!

One thing is being tall and the other is being super thin and with 2% or 4 % of fat.

Bradley Wiggins (6'3"), Chris Froome (6'1"), Tejay van Garderen (6'1"). Many of the top guys in this year's tour are all tall. I thought being tall was a disadvantage for tour riders.


Lol, 6'1" isnt "tall", its pretty avg, even for the tour, 6'3"+ thats pretty tall, & NOT normal for the tour.

Lol, 6'1" isnt "tall", its pretty avg, even for the tour, 6'3"+ thats pretty tall, & NOT normal for the tour.

LOL? Really? There is no country in the world in which the average male height is 6'1".

Wiggins weighs like 150lbs at 6'3"... and he has long legs... that's a pretty long lever without much weight.

I'm 6'3" also... but I weigh 230 and have short legs (32.5" inseam). I was 215 when I raced. If you can call only being good at descending and sprinting racing... Tall riders with long legs that are narrow and skinny-as-f*** are simply better-built for this sport.

Wiggins weighs like 150lbs at 6'3"... and he has long legs... that's a pretty long lever without much weight.

I'm 6'3" also... but I weigh 230 and have short legs (32.5" inseam). I was 215 when I raced. If you can call only being good at descending and sprinting racing... Tall riders with long legs that are narrow and skinny-as-f*** are simply better-built for this sport.

I feel your pain... 6'2 1/2" 31" inseam 215-220lbs.

If I can hang with someone to the top of a climb, I'll roast them on a descent... However... getting to the top of that climb may make my heart jump out of my chest.

Perhaps the worst part of being all torso like us, is finding a jersey long enough that my backside isn't hanging out!

LOL? Really? There is no country in the world in which the average male height is 6'1".

The average male in the Netherlands is 6'0".
Not that far off.

6'1" 195 slow as $h1t. 34" inseam doesnt help. Cant lose the extra 10-15 lbs.

6'1" 195 slow as $h1t. 34" inseam doesnt help. Cant lose the extra 10-15 lbs.

+1

6'3" at 200lbs and I can barely drag my ass over hills. Of course being 45 doesn't help either. Stupid laws of time and gravity.

LOL? Really? There is no country in the world in which the average male height is 6'1".

Who said anything at all about countries &.their populations height, please show where I said such? I said no such thing. As relation to the tour(which I was referring to, even said as much), yes, Im sure there are more riders in the 5 '10/5'11"/6'0" range, as there are guys 6'3"+(which AGAIN isnt really the norm or.common on tour),Im sure even a handful(if.that) or less of riders in the 6'4"+ range. So yeah, its more common to find riders in the 6' ft range, than it is 6'3"/6'4"+ range, which was what I said earlier.

Please feel free to post a list of 6'4"+ riders, to further prove my point.

Who said anything at all about countries &.their populations height, please show where I said such? I said no such thing.

You seem to have trouble connecting dots. Let me help you.

1. You said, "Lol, 6'1" isnt "tall", its pretty avg, even for the tour".
2. chasm54 said, "There is no country in the world in which the average male height is 6'1""
3. If no single country in the world has an average male height as tall as 6'1, then collectively, the world certainly doesn't have an average male height anywhere near 6'1.
4. If the world doesn't have an average male height anywhere near 6'1, then 6'1 is in fact, tall, and not "pretty avg".


Please feel free to post a list of 6'4"+ riders, to further prove my point.

Nobody here's arguing that 6'3 isn't tall. In fact, the OP specifically mentioned that Wiggins at 6'3 is quite tall. So what exactly are you trying to accomplish here?

Please see a psychiatrist ASAP to treat your borderline personality disorder.

You seem to have trouble connecting dots. Let me help you.

Let me help you "connect the dots" ok?


I was simply saying that as relation to TDF riders, it would be more common to see "taller" riders in the 5'11/6'0'/6'1 range, than it would be guys 6 ft 3/4 and above. Not every rider is 5'7 and 150.


1. You said, "Lol, 6'1" isnt "tall", its pretty avg, even for the tour".

As opposed to riders 6ft3 or 4 and above, yes, it is more common to see guys under that heighth, of course this is just my opinion.


2. chasm54 said, "There is no country in the world in which the average male height is 6'1""

and AGAIN, NO ONE said anything about countries, and the heighths of their population, right? of course not, we were specifically talking about the TDF, right? of course we were, so yeah, REGARDING THE TOUR DE FRANCE(and not how tall folks in Zimbabwe are), what I said fit the question/comment.


3. If no single country in the world has an average male height as tall as 6'1, then collectively, the world certainly doesn't have an average male height anywhere near 6'1.


Again with the countries, where did I or anyone else mention anything about countries & the heighths of their populations? Reading comprehension isnt one of your strong suits? i get that.

4. If the world doesn't have an average male height anywhere near 6'1, then 6'1 is in fact, tall, and not "pretty avg".

I dont see the entire world, or the poulations from EVERY single country racing do you? Nope. Maybe they're all dressed as bikes or something? How again does the heighth in Zimbabwe or any other country, have anything to do with the TDF's couple hundred riders and their collective heigths? It doesnt, so Admittedly, Im failing to see the corrolation, care to enlighten us?

Please see a psychiatrist ASAP to treat your borderline personality disorder.

Please see one for your delusions of grandure.....

I'm 6'1" with a 34" inseam at 165 lbs andI do very well on climbs

There are plenty of tall guys - all pretty skinny or at least lean. Millar is also 190+ and a beanpole for instance. Not to mention Hyjdahl. Heaviest is around 85 kg I think.

There are plenty of tall guys - all pretty skinny or at least lean. Millar is also 190+ and a beanpole for instance. Not to mention Hyjdahl. Heaviest is around 85 kg I think.

Kind of proves my point, that there are more taller riders on tour, than one would think.

Kind of proves my point, that there are more taller riders on tour, than one would think.

What is doesn't prove is that the average height is 6'1", as you suggested. It clearly is not.

However, as in other sports, there appears to be a trend towards taller athletes. What this means for stage races is that one begins to see extremes in terms of physique. If you want to be a top climber you'd better not weigh much more than 2lbs per inch of height.

The average male in the Netherlands is 6'0".
Not that far off.

And we ride bikes all the times... But still no win in the TdF...
So I guess height not an advantage :-)

And we ride bikes all the times... But still no win in the TdF...
So I guess height not an advantage :-)

It's an interesting point, though. All those great Belgians, and so few Dutch? Apart from Marianne Vos, of course. Any theories as to why?

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Blah blah blah. You're arguing with yourself.

You have TWO psychiatric problems. Borderline personality disorder and clinical narcissism. I know somebody with the same condition... he's a very unhappy man, always has been, always will be.

Good luck.

Kind of proves my point, that there are more taller riders on tour, than one would think.

Your "point" is meaningless, considering you're unable to discern the difference between "average" and "more than one would think".

And we ride bikes all the times... But still no win in the TdF...
So I guess height not an advantage :-)

Joop Zoetemelk won the TDF in 1980.

Joop Zoetemelk won the TDF in 1980.

You're right. And I forgot about Jan Janssen, too.

Blah blah blah. You're arguing with yourself.


2 things:


1) I thought I was "arguing" with you, since YOU got so butthurt over what I said?

2) if indeed I am"arguing with myself" as you claim, then that would mean my initial post you took offense/issues with, and got butthurt over, wouldve been correct from the get go, right? of course. So why would I argue with myself about something I knew was right from the beginning?



You have TWO psychiatric problems. Borderline personality disorder and clinical narcissism.

As do you apparently,especially the latter of the 2 you mentioned. But thanks for your clinical opinion Dr. Thank you for re-affirming I'm the man!!


I know somebody with the same condition... he's a very unhappy man, always has been, always will be.


Im assuming thats you? which explains your hostility/and subsequent rantings here? You seem to have quite a number of issues, and should NOT be posting on any boards. Touched a nerve I guess? my bad. I'm Not in any way "Unhappy", but YOU must be, since you continue mentioning it(along with other psychological issues you have). Its ok though, vent away.

Your posts are filled with "blah blah blah".


Good luck


Well thank you, good luck with your self doubt, and dont let it interfere with plans to improve your life. Unhappiness/depression are bad, you should seek medical help for your troubles. Now that you've brought your problems out,I wish you the best in getting the help you deserve.

Your "point" is meaningless, considering you're unable to discern the difference between "average" and "more than one would think".

Actually,it's not, but thanks for your input.

Actually,it's not, but thanks for your input.

You got owned, give it up bro.

6' 1" is tall no matter what or where.

OK, we have found an area where 6'1" is an average, but it is a geographic area, not a country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinaric_Alps

"The people of the Dinaric Alps are on record as being the tallest in the world, with a male average height of 185.6 cm (6 ft 1.1 in) and a female average height of 171.0 cm (5 ft 7.3 in)"

:D

OK, we have found an area where 6'1" is an average, but it is a geographic area, not a country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinaric_Alps

"The people of the Dinaric Alps are on record as being the tallest in the world, with a male average height of 185.6 cm (6 ft 1.1 in) and a female average height of 171.0 cm (5 ft 7.3 in)"

:D

Don't they make up about half the peloton?

You got owned, give it up bro.

6' 1" is tall no matter what or where.
Thanks "bro" but thats.what i said, that.Taller riders on tour are more common than you think. I just saw a stat that said in 2005, the avg tdf rider was 5'"10.5 inches tall, unless its changed in the last 7 yrs, that proves my point, that TALLER riders are more common on tour than one would think.

I just saw a stat that said in 2005, the avg tdf rider was 5'"10.5 inches tall, unless its changed in the last 7 yrs, that proves my point,

Actually that contradicts your point that 6'1 is "pretty avg".

Forgot what you wrote already?

Actually that contradicts your point that 6'1 is "pretty avg".

Forgot what you wrote already?

Actually Corky, it doesn't, it only adds to what i said..."more common/avg" are pretty much the same thing. There are more taller riders on tour, than shorter ones.....I dont "get" how you cant comprehend that Corky, well, actually I do, now that you mention it.

Right on Mong!!