"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - rider test positive at Gran Fondo

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gsteinb
07-23-12, 09:25 AM
http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/david-anthony-tests-positive
what a ****ing tool.
johnybutts
07-23-12, 09:48 AM
Clown.
Creatre
07-23-12, 09:52 AM
A Gran Fondo has the resources to drug test? I'm impressed.
gsteinb
07-23-12, 09:54 AM
with several thousand riders at 250 a head far more so than a normal race.
echappist
07-23-12, 09:55 AM
effing idiot indeed.
had all the swagger in the world when he passes people in CP without care. all smokes & mirrors
echappist
07-23-12, 10:01 AM
sort of expected when so many in the city have the rat-race mentality
i didnt realize that a gran fondo was a 'race'
Fat Boy
07-23-12, 10:40 AM
Why doesn't anyone ever accuse me of doping?
I'd test positive for being cool!!!!
http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/david-anthony-tests-positive
what a ****ing tool.
happens all the time at real gran fondos.
hammy56
07-23-12, 10:55 AM
I'd test positive for being cool!!!!
you'd need some serious supplements.
you'd need some serious supplements.
Don't hate me cuz I'm cool inkman...
Back on topic, kinda like a Cat 5 taking PEDs (of which I know of some examples)... What's the point???
gsteinb
07-23-12, 11:10 AM
this guy wasn't a five. he had just upgraded to 2, and won battenkill as a 5, 4, and this year as a 3. Plus a bunch of great TT results and some stage race stuff.
this guy wasn't a five. he had just upgraded to 2, and won battenkill as a 5, 4, and this year as a 3. Plus a bunch of great TT results and some stage race stuff.
Sorry wasn't referring to him in particular but just have to question what's the point? To the person that I know it was said to me in confidence and now, based on his riding this year, may are asking me what is he doing different to make him so fast (many know that I have been directing his training this year), puts me in a tough spot.
johnybutts
07-23-12, 11:34 AM
Sorry wasn't referring to him in particular but just have to question what's the point? To the person that I know it was said to me in confidence and now, based on his riding this year, may are asking me what is he doing different to make him so fast (many know that I have been directing his training this year), puts me in a tough spot.
I would unfriend him. It's amazing inconsiderate to put you in that situation. I was in that situation, and while I didn't go totally public with it, I kicked him off the team and never rode with him again.
I would unfriend him. It's amazing inconsiderate to put you in that situation. I was in that situation, and while I didn't go totally public with it, I kicked him off the team and never rode with him again.
As you can expect it is a little more complicated than I outlined as he is also a friend (and a really good guy) just making some bad decisions in my opinion...
Creakyknees
07-23-12, 12:08 PM
That Gran Fondo was a Master's Worlds qualifier, yes? Meaning, UCI rules and dope testing, yes?
Anyway... can't say I'm surprised. I've long said, do the math. If a rider will pay $X thousand for bikes (multiple) and $X thousand for wheels (multiple) and $X hundred a month for coaching and massages and race travel and whatnot... then a small co-pay for some medical assistance is not so out of the question.
jsutkeepspining
07-23-12, 12:18 PM
I'd test positive for being cool!!!!
Dear fatty,
quit talking about me u stinky ape!
best wishes from your favorite junior,
jsut
merlinextraligh
07-23-12, 12:20 PM
Don't hate me cuz I'm cool inkman...
Back on topic, kinda like a Cat 5 taking PEDs (of which I know of some examples)... What's the point???
We had a 60 some year old Cat 5 down here refuse a random drug test and get sanctioned. They actually ran him down at home for a random test.
gsteinb
07-23-12, 12:22 PM
christ
http://www.prlog.org/11931719-two-cyclists-tested-positive-for-epo-at-gran-fondo-new-york-2012.html
We had a 60 some year old Cat 5 down here refuse a random drug test and get sanctioned. They actually ran him down at home for a random test.
The Florida Clean Ride Fund is helping to make this happen much more.
Best of luck all you PED users.
http://www.floridacleanridefund.com/
VA_Esquire
07-23-12, 12:29 PM
stick to cocaine.
I am taking a pee into a whole bunch of cups and sending them to each of you in case you want to test me, sorry for any spillover...
jsutkeepspining
07-23-12, 12:41 PM
I am taking a pee into a whole bunch of cups and sending them to each of you in case you want to test me, sorry for any spillover...
thanks just what i need! now i can use it at my next random drug test so no one will notice the epo, testosterone and illegal substances in my pee.
thanks just what i need! now i can use it at my next random drug test so no one will notice the epo, testosterone and illegal substances in my pee.
You'll still test positive for stupidestone though...
jsutkeepspining
07-23-12, 12:51 PM
ha ha ha mr rkwaki. I am pleased to inform you that i just took an iq test, and i scored a solid 82.....jk i scored a 69!
wanders
07-23-12, 01:23 PM
Does this mean he will be stripped of all of his upgrade points and downgraded back to Cat 3 or will he have to stay at Cat 2 and get his teeth kicked in without his go-go juice?
echappist
07-23-12, 01:42 PM
christ
http://www.prlog.org/11931719-two-cyclists-tested-positive-for-epo-at-gran-fondo-new-york-2012.html
i think i have an idea who the other guy might be. There were some seriously high VAM for the Bear Mountain climb.
I just find this incredibly depressing.
Fat Boy
07-23-12, 01:47 PM
I actually got pulled for a random test last year (not bike racing). It's nice to go to into one of those with a clean conscience.
topflightpro
07-23-12, 02:28 PM
Gee, I don't even think EPO could make me fast.
I actually got pulled for a random test last year (not bike racing). It's nice to go to into one of those with a clean conscience.
I have been drug tested more than anyone else in my company.
I actually have my own stall at the lab complete with couch, television, mini-bar and private parking space :)
Racer Ex
07-23-12, 05:09 PM
I hear some people are demanding Strava require a urine sample for all KOM's.
Right now over in the 50+ regular guy forum there's a thread on low "T". Have at the 60 year old guy who's tired all the time and lost his sex drive who rides the occasional century.
I raced against more than one guy using EPO. I would probably be very fast on EPO, if the way these guys killed me was any indicator. Zero doubt I'm racing against juiced guys right now.
But honestly when I hear one of the guys I raced against got popped my reaction is to shrug. Don't care. It's amateur bike racing, or in this case amateur bike riding for chrissakes. As silly as it is to take EPO or steroids to race in some industrial park I think it's equally as silly for some Cat4 to be making medical decisions based on WADA and whether or not he can get a TUE to race in some industrial park.
And it's the height of hysteria to test schlubs at a Fondo (and it wasn't a UCI qualifier BTW).
I sacrifice enough for this sport. If I developed an illness or condition where the best medicine was on the banned list, I get to either quit the sport or compromise my health. To race around an industrial park for a T shirt.
The list of things that are forbidden under WADA is long and somewhat complex. When I heard they were testing at the NYGF I shook my head. I bet 35% of the riders were out of compliance during the year, if not a lot more. And 98% didn't know what was even on the list. How many people you think had TUE's?
And if you weren't a licensed racer the punishment would be what? They take your bike away? Go stand in the corner?
I could do a shovel full (no relation to Shovel) of EPO and steroids and never get caught even if they tested every race I did. Look at how many pros were on a program and never tested positive, and that's when people show up at all hours of the day and night with bottles for them to fill. I'd bet that there were a bunch of juiced guys laughing their asses off about how these guys didn't know to avoid a positive. Testing at the races just tells you who the really stupid people are.
Folks who signed up for this Fondo agreed in the fine print that someone could come to their house and take their blood and urine. That's kinda depressing when you think about it.
A few weeks ago someone posted about having to lie to the investors about the condition of the company they worked for. The response was a lot more tepid than for this. That's pretty depressing.
But you know what's really depressing?
"GFNY raised money for Operation Smile, a charity that provides children with facial deformities a normal life through surgery"
I'm sure those kids didn't need the money they spent checking people's urine.
gsteinb
07-23-12, 05:50 PM
I thought it was a masters qualifier or some such thing. It was in 2011 at least.
echappist
07-23-12, 06:15 PM
it was for 2011 but apparently is not on the UCI "World Cycling Tour" this year
Racer Ex
07-23-12, 06:25 PM
The Strava testing has been confirmed. Anyone know Rkwaki's home address? I need to post this on the Strava blog so folks can send in their zip locks.
wait, a Grand Fondo? WTF is that and why is a doper riding it. do i need to be worried that this October at the Pumpkin Pie Century in Flatsville the "winner" could be a doper. later.
wanders
07-23-12, 06:43 PM
Is allspice on the banned substance list?
Is allspice on the banned substance list?
Racing would really stink without it...
Racing would really stink without it...
dial magnetic body wash has andro as an actual ingredient
http://www.dialsoap.com/3D-body-wash.html
Flatballer
07-23-12, 07:12 PM
I'm not even sure what a Grand Fondo is. From what I can tell it's some sort of fredly timed century ride with "winners".
Train more, dope less.
Enthalpic
07-23-12, 07:24 PM
"Andro" is slang for the testosterone precursor androstenedione, the soap has androstadienone a testosterone metabolite.
Racer Ex
07-23-12, 07:32 PM
"Andro" is slang for the testosterone precursor androstenedione, the soap has androstadienone a testosterone metabolite.
(I'm a mod. Must hold back...too good a set up...no, I can't...decorum....)
No wonder everytime
(No...don't...)
lathers
(must stop now)
I get
(noooooooo)
giant
(STOP!)
soapy
(aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggg)
Thirstyman
07-23-12, 07:38 PM
"Andro" is slang for the testosterone precursor androstenedione, the soap has androstadienone a testosterone metabolite.
while this may be an attempt at humor that is failing me, the ingredients, as listed on that web page, does not include either of those things.
Enthalpic
07-23-12, 07:40 PM
Only the magnetic scent has it.
Ingredients: WATER, SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE, COCAMIDOPROPYL BETAINE, PEG-8, FRAGRANCE, SODIUM CHLORIDE, ANDROSTADIENONE (PHEROMONE), GLYCERIN, PPG-2 HYDROXYETHYL COCO/ISOSTEARAMIDE, COCAMIDOPROPYL PG-DIMONIUM CHLORIDE, POLYQUATERNIUM-10, POLYQUATERNIUM-7, DMDM HYDANTOIN, CITRIC ACID, TETRASODIUM EDTA, RED 40, RED 33, BLUE 1.
tallmantim
07-23-12, 07:42 PM
(I'm a mod. Must hold back...too good a set up...no, I can't...decorum....)
[...]
(aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggg)
LOL.
...
At least I can blame it on the competitors PEDs getting them the win every time I get my ass handed to me in club racing now!
;-)
Enthalpic
07-23-12, 07:43 PM
(I'm a mod. Must hold back...too good a set up...no, I can't...decorum....)
No wonder everytime
(No...don't...)
lathers
(must stop now)
I get
(noooooooo)
giant
(STOP!)
soapy
(aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggg)
The claimed pheromone is a component of semen. With a little work you can make any soap "magnetic."
tallmantim
07-23-12, 07:45 PM
Only the magnetic scent has it.
Ingredients: WATER, SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE, COCAMIDOPROPYL BETAINE, PEG-8, FRAGRANCE, SODIUM CHLORIDE, ANDROSTADIENONE (PHEROMONE), GLYCERIN, PPG-2 HYDROXYETHYL COCO/ISOSTEARAMIDE, COCAMIDOPROPYL PG-DIMONIUM CHLORIDE, POLYQUATERNIUM-10, POLYQUATERNIUM-7, DMDM HYDANTOIN, CITRIC ACID, TETRASODIUM EDTA, RED 40, RED 33, BLUE 1.
Man - I gotta get me some of this soap!
from http://pherolibrary.com/androstadienone/430
Androstadienone, more commonly known as A1, is a very popular pheromone (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/pheromone.htm) within the pheromone community. One of it’s more remarkable effects is that it can elevate a woman’s mood, and even alleviate PMS stress! It has been known to increase intimacy and comfort, and can also increase caring feelings. It has been called the “love pheromone” because of the nature of the feelings and reactions it induces in women, and also because of it’s usefulness in more cozy relationship situations.
Enthalpic
07-23-12, 07:55 PM
When I develop a soap that smells like B.O I'm going to call it "Primal Attraction".
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