Foo - Question for people on Unemployment Benefits

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RubenX
08-07-12, 03:36 PM
Did they change the thing?

It used to be that you would claim 2 weeks, every 2 weeks. By that method, this week we would be claiming:

* July 22 to July 28
* July 29 to Aug 04

But the system now only lets you claim 'July 22 to July 28' and says the next day to claim is on Aug 14, which is 7 days from now, not 14.

So... seems they change the claiming process from by-weekly to weekly. I'm I correct?

UPDATE: Mystery Resolved

They were skipping a week. The state does not want to process weeks on the same dates as the everybody else. So they skip a week and it's now back to 2 weeks per claim.


no1mad
08-07-12, 03:39 PM
On my first round of UI. It's always been weekly for me here in OK, though I do have the option of filing for previous weeks if I missed the deadline to file for that week.

spry
08-07-12, 03:44 PM
The 1 week thing is for Florida residents only.With all the retired people they hope some will drop dead before they can collect another week of benefits:)
















*just kidding,it's 1 week at a time now.You file online Sunday each week.


mikeybikes
08-07-12, 04:59 PM
Florida right? Don't forget the drug testing.

ahsposo
08-07-12, 06:30 PM
Get a job...

ahsposo
08-07-12, 07:12 PM
But they're not easy to get or worth much when you get one.

Best to work in the 'black' economy.

I like to hit this inconvenience store that has these illegal slot machines on a late Friday myself. They know me and stand back, so far.

Couch
08-07-12, 07:28 PM
Get a job...



Don't you think he would if he could?

Couch

DannoXYZ
08-11-12, 01:35 PM
Don't you think he would if he could?

CouchYou can always get A job! It's just a matter of pride and ego. With the dot.com bust in 2000, many high-flying starlets had to give up their "Head-honcho of Imagineering Extraordinaire" titles for something more mundane such as "Marketing Director" and a 25% pay-cut. But hey, that's the natural business-cycle and pay-cuts allow employers to stay out of bankruptcy and continue to keep people employed. That was one of FDR's blunders that made The Depression much worse, not allowing employers to make pay-cuts. Instead, companies went belly-up by thousands along with millions of employees.

Heck, I consult for a nationwide employment firm with over 1000 offices and their job-listings have increased exponentially in the past couple years. The jobs are out there, but you may be splitting the same budget amongst a larger number of positions. The extra trillions of dollars the Fed have been printing is staying at the top, hiding M3 was a part of keeping that hidden.

RubenX
08-11-12, 03:09 PM
You can always get A job! It's just a matter of pride and ego.

It has nothing to do with pride an ego. How far away is the job? How much it's gonna cost to get there? Is it possible to find day care services at those hours? How much is the day care gonna cost? Is the salary good enough to pay for transportation and day care? There's a gazillion factors you have to take into account.

DannoXYZ
08-11-12, 05:40 PM
Well, what I'm really saying is that most people's financial decisions have emotional motivations. Pride and ego is just one of many possibilities. Greed and fear are also common.

Those gazillion factors are always there. For your entire life. They never go away. Are you willing to do what it takes to make ends meet?


1. get a more fuel-efficient car? Take public transit? Here, a vast number of people take BART into S.F. and it's very cost-efficient over a car.

2. move into smaller housing? Rent instead of own? The break-even point around here for mortgage versus rent is about $250-350k. Less than that, you're better off bying because the mortgage will be lower than renting it. Conversely, if you have a house that's more than that, you're better off renting it for half of what the mortgage would be. Put the extra money into your future retirement. If it was purely objective number-crunching, a large number of people wouldn't be suffering financially and just sell their costly house and rent a smaller one. That can easily put +$1000 or more into their accounts each month. But they don't want the stigma of renting. HAH! Owning a home has outright expenses that renters never have to deal with. My property-taxes alone are more than my entire year's rent a couple years ago. Add in insurance, repairs and I'm looking at 2x more per month than renting. And I don't even have mortgage on the damn place.

3. Day care? Do people actually examine the numbers of what it would cost to raise a kid from birth to flying the coop? If they did, how many people would actually have kids when they compare to what they can comfortably afford? If "A job" and cost-of-living is such an issue, there are plenty of government programmes available for support. Rent & mortgage subsidies. Many employers offer day-care, but give a lower salary in exchange. Many cultures have solved this problem thousands of years ago with extended families. My dad lives just a couple miles away, and he comes over to take care of our dogs & cats whenever we're away.

4. future planning. How much money do you need to live a certain lifestyle when you retire? Do you have a plan to get there? Are you implementing that plan each and every single day? Every week, month and year? Given real inflation figures (not what the government reports) from the past couple of decades show that a couple at 40-years old needs to have saved up $500k in order to retire comfortably at 65.

5. time management. What are you getting for your time spent? Most people think "time is money" and that they are interchangeable. That's fine if you want to trade a fixed amount of your time for a limited amount of money. I see them as opposite, time is the most valuable thing you have in life. It's finite in amount and once it's gone, it's gone forever. You can't make more, you can't buy more. Money is almost irrelevant. Sure you need a minimum amount to live in our exchange economy, but one doesn't have to trade a fixed amount of time for a fixed amount of money. You can learn ways to leverage your time to make money that's not tied to you spending a certain amount of time. I used to pull engines in my racecar, bore and hone the cylinders, turn pistons on a lathe, make my own wiring-harnesses and program the EFI myself because it would cost me more in dollars than what my time can earn. Now, I don't bat an eye at cutting a cheque because my time is worth more than that.

Most people know the gospel that CPAs and CFPs are paid to teach:


1. save 10% of your income
2. have a 6-month emergency fund
3. spend no more than 25% of income on housing
4. etc. etc. etc.

But for how many people does this knowledge actually produce results? It's not for lack of jobs, but is based on emotional components.

RubenX
08-11-12, 07:53 PM
I think the break-even point of owning vs renting is a lot lower here. A house 2 blocks away was sold last week for 30k. Same house is for rent right now at $950 a month. How much is a 30 year mortgage on a 30k house + taxes + insurance? I don't know. Last home I owned (a decade ago) was a 60k property and I was paying $420 a month, total.

spry
08-12-12, 10:07 PM
I think the break-even point of owning vs renting is a lot lower here. A house 2 blocks away was sold last week for 30k. Same house is for rent right now at $950 a month. How much is a 30 year mortgage on a 30k house + taxes + insurance? I don't know. Last home I owned (a decade ago) was a 60k property and I was paying $420 a month, total.

All the defaults on rent in Florida raise rents while defaults on mortages lower real estate prices.
I still think Los Vegas is #1 in this situation but Wintergarden Florida could still take the Bronze medal:)

vesteroid
08-13-12, 03:58 PM
all I can tell you is if I can buy a house for 30K and rent it for 950 a month, sign me up for a thousand of them.

mikeybikes
08-13-12, 04:38 PM
all I can tell you is if I can buy a house for 30K and rent it for 950 a month, sign me up for a thousand of them.

This. That is just super crazy. 20% down on that would be the 3.5% I put down on the house we just purchased. I paid rent at $950/mo for a house that sold for $190,000 after I moved out.

bigbenaugust
08-13-12, 04:40 PM
I am pretty sure I could buy 3 30k houses and have them shipped here for the cost of even a dumpy townhouse here in the Silicon Valley.
The land, however, is a different story. I wouldn't be able to get land to put them on.

genec
08-13-12, 06:00 PM
You can always get A job! It's just a matter of pride and ego. With the dot.com bust in 2000, many high-flying starlets had to give up their "Head-honcho of Imagineering Extraordinaire" titles for something more mundane such as "Marketing Director" and a 25% pay-cut. But hey, that's the natural business-cycle and pay-cuts allow employers to stay out of bankruptcy and continue to keep people employed. That was one of FDR's blunders that made The Depression much worse, not allowing employers to make pay-cuts. Instead, companies went belly-up by thousands along with millions of employees.

Heck, I consult for a nationwide employment firm with over 1000 offices and their job-listings have increased exponentially in the past couple years. The jobs are out there, but you may be splitting the same budget amongst a larger number of positions. The extra trillions of dollars the Fed have been printing is staying at the top, hiding M3 was a part of keeping that hidden.

First go into the offices and kick the snot out of the HR people until they understand that a Head-honcho of Imagineering Extraordinaire can fill the role of Marketing Director... 'cause right now you have a lot of snotty HR people telling folks that they would be under employed and probably leave within some imagined period of time.

The biggest impediment to hiring good people to fill open positions is HR having a mindset that they can't put well qualified people in other roles.