Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - advice on all-weather fixed hub

Howdy Folks,

I'm looking for some advice on a quality fixed hub that is NOT designed for track cycling.
I'm looking for:
-good seals (i.e. grease won't turn black in two days of city riding)
-high quality bearings, cups & cones

people tell me that most good fixed hubs are designed for clean environments, and that the crappy ones are, well, crappy

thanks!

read a couple of posts first and if you still have this question, maybe try to phrase it so it doesn't sound like all the other 'which hub' questions. seriously, one in twenty post asks this same questiuon.

Forget cups and cones, go for cartridge bearings. Sealed up better than any of the loose bearing and when they are toasted, you just pop new ones in.

do searches for

surly
iro
suzue promax sb
paul
phil wood

I'd go level.
www.levelcomponents.com

I've heard from a friend (vegan dave) that level component hubs have a tendency of throwing a wheel out of true, any one else heard about this? or has he heard some bad info? it's an awesome idea, but if there is a physics type problem with them, then someone else should pick up this idea... sorry if this is jumbled, I've been drink..

Phil Wood hubs. Why go farther? They last forever, they can be rebuilt ad infinitum, and you can get any drilling, any width, choice of black or silver, choice of one sided/twosided/fix-fix/fix-free etc. etc. Phil will sell them direct and I always get them within a couple days. Get them with the allen-head BMX nuts and all you need is a 6 mm wrench (the Pedro one with a handle on it for $8.95 works great) to remove them, while making sure that theft is just that much harder. There are other sealed bearing hubs (Suzue, for example) but the weather durability just isn't there. Figure on overhauling the hubs in about 12 years, and otherwise forget them. A++++

i was really super excited about level hubs when i first came across them, but i'm a little put off by them now just because if that company goes under, good luck finding a cog.

you're then stuck with a 200 dollar paperweight.

phils, on the other hand, are around the same price, and (if you install the cog/LR right) just as likely to withstand skids/stripping...and you'll be able to use it even if phil somehow went under.

... sorry if this is jumbled, I've been drink..
wait, wait... "I've been drink"
ya lousy drunk!
don't make me come back across the country and kick yr ass before i die from a burst appendix!!!!!

"it's rather unpleasantly like being drunk"
"well, whats so wrong about being drunk?"
"ask a glass of water"

What spacing are you looking for?
If 135mm are any good to you Kogswell might be worth a look.
www.kogswell.com

I've heard from a friend (vegan dave) that level component hubs have a tendency of throwing a wheel out of true, any one else heard about this? or has he heard some bad info? it's an awesome idea, but if there is a physics type problem with them, then someone else should pick up this idea... sorry if this is jumbled, I've been drink..I don't know where he heard this, but I can't even make sense of how this could be claimed - unless someone built their own wheels, didn't know what they are doing and are trying to place the blame elsewhere. I've been running a Level for many months and lots of miles, doing everything from road riding to off-road riding to loaded touring on a rooty, rocky dirt canal path. The hub is solid.

I was thinking the same thing. Unless the hub is actually flexing (seems unlikely don't it?) under load, the fault lies with the rim and spokes.

Goldtec. Us brits know how to make weather proof hubs!

Howdy Folks,

fixed hub that is NOT designed for track cycling.

thanks!

Level Hubs, Designed for Street / Off Road / Track.
Definately not track specific, but they work on a track too.

I was thinking the same thing. Unless the hub is actually flexing (seems unlikely don't it?) under load, the fault lies with the rim and spokes.

Yeah the Levels are Beefy, no chance at all ever would they flex with out applying a torch and sledgehammer. Someone defending a bad builld musta told that fella that.

My vote would be for IRO. Good price for a sealed hub designed for street use. They will be my next wheel set (as soon as my suzue fails...been waiting for a year now)