General Cycling Discussion - Any practical advantage to Fahgettaboudit over any other mini u-lock?

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ikeonabike
08-15-12, 02:06 PM
I know the Fahgettaboudit is thicker and will therefore take longer to cut with a power tool. But a couple more minutes probably won't make a difference if a thief is using a dremel.
Is there any kind of attack that a Fahgettaboudit will stop that a Mini Evolution or Bulldog Mini wouldn't also stop? I'm not talking about wheels (Pitlocked), just the frame.
Just trying to figure out if the only things justifying the extra weight/cost of the Fahgettaboudit are longer power tool cut time and beefy appearance.
Thanks!
fietsbob
08-15-12, 02:27 PM
Real data is gathered by destructive testing, put all candidates to the same procedures ,
and note who fails first. write it down , repeat for others in the sample batch.
Bike Radar did some destructive testing , see what they have.
They are in UK, so brand names differ..
ikeonabike
08-15-12, 04:00 PM
Bikeradar basically said they couldn't get through the Fahgettaboudit or the On Guard Bulldog Mini without a power tool. With a power tool there was about a two-and-a-half minute difference in cut time. The Bulldog got 4 stars and the Fahgettaboudit got 4.5. So according to them, no major advantage to the Fahgettaboudit other than cut time.
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks/product/review-onguard-bulldog-mini-ls-16552
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks/product/review-kryptonite-new-york-fahgettaboudit-mini-16565
SlimRider
08-15-12, 06:27 PM
The best three in the security game are Kryptonite, OnGuard, and Abus!
All three make anywhere from down right crappy to excellent locking mechanisms or devices. The New York Fahgettaboudtit U Lock I personally believe is the best in U Locks. That would be closely followed by the Onguard U Lock.
Here are just a couple of expert opinions:
Bike Lock Reviews and Buying Guide - by Galttech
www.galttech.com/research/sports/best-bike-locks.php (http://www.galttech.com/research/sports/best-bike-locks.php)
Avoiding the Bicycle Thief - by Scott Elder
www.slate.com/articles/life/shopping/2006/04/avoiding_the_bicycle_thief.single.html#pagebreak_anchor_4 (http://www.slate.com/articles/life/shopping/2006/04/avoiding_the_bicycle_thief.single.html#pagebreak_anchor_4)
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Basic Bike Thief Tools
Scott Elder says that a bike theft crew with the proper power tools and a van is absolutely unstoppable!
You must only settle for the very best in locks! Cable locks are worthless!
A simple hacksaw, the right blades, and enough time, are all the amateur bicycle thief needs...
mechBgon
08-15-12, 10:15 PM
I know the Fahgettaboudit is thicker and will therefore take longer to cut with a power tool. But a couple more minutes probably won't make a difference if a thief is using a dremel.
Is there any kind of attack that a Fahgettaboudit will stop that a Mini Evolution or Bulldog Mini wouldn't also stop?
The 18mm cross section of the Fahgettaboudit's shackle contains about twice as much steel as the Evolution Mini or the Bulldog Mini, at 13mm. The Fahgettaboudit also has a double-deadbolt mechanism that secures both ends of the shackle (as does the Bulldog Mini), so cutting the shackle in just one location doesn't effectively open the lock, unlike the Evolution Mini where one end of the shackle's secured by a bent foot. And the Fahgettaboudit has a double-walled crossbar to protect the locking mechanism.
For the record, I doubt any thief is going to attack a Faghettaboudit with a Dremel proper. A full-blown cut-off tool, perhaps. If I were a bike thief, and were determined to cut your Faghettaboudit, I'd be considering an oxy-acetylene torch. But first I'd see if I could just cut what you've locked up to, it's bound to be the weak link unless it's a gas main or a big electrical conduit.
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