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rollo
01-19-05, 07:30 AM
I’m considering a cross frame for next years winter/commuter bike.
My current ride (road bike) has this problem and I’d like to avoid it in the future. Plus I like to put full fenders on.
Are crossers more prone to because of their head tube angles?
Do any of you have a problem with this?

thanx

jfmckenna
01-19-05, 08:16 AM
I would guess that a proper cross bike would be designed to not have overlap. There are plenty of slow tricky turns in cross that you woud bail on if you had over lap. I doubt it would ever really be a problem with a road bike, I still wouldn't want to have it though.

noisebeam
01-19-05, 01:21 PM
I’m considering a cross frame for next years winter/commuter bike.
My current ride (road bike) has this problem and I’d like to avoid it in the future. Plus I like to put full fenders on.
Are crossers more prone to because of their head tube angles?
Do any of you have a problem with this?

thanx
I guess I have some overlap on my Lemond Poprad, but its a total non issue for me. I have ridden on very rough rocky twisty desert single track and yes I have bumped my toes on my front wheel three or four times when turning hard to avoid obsticals, but only when going very slow thru a tight/odd turn - in all cases it didn't cause me a miss or affect my balance in any way, kinda like when your foot bumps a rock thru a tight passage, but actually must less of an effect.

I also use this same bike for daily commuting and haven't come close to hitting my toes, you just don't turn the front wheel that much even on quick 90deg road turns.

Al

arctic hawk
01-19-05, 01:48 PM
I guess I have some overlap on my Lemond Poprad, but its a total non issue for me. I have ridden on very rough rocky twisty desert single track and yes I have bumped my toes on my front wheel three or four times when turning hard to avoid obsticals, but only when going very slow thru a tight/odd turn - in all cases it didn't cause me a miss or affect my balance in any way, kinda like when your foot bumps a rock thru a tight passage, but actually must less of an effect.

I also use this same bike for daily commuting and haven't come close to hitting my toes, you just don't turn the front wheel that much even on quick 90deg road turns.

Al
Same experience with the Trek X01!

x2mars
01-19-05, 04:59 PM
Does anyone know if the Surly CrossCheck has toe overlap?

phillybill
01-19-05, 06:18 PM
I have not notices the toe overlay on my Proprad like I have on my road bike and I got big feet.

noisebeam
01-20-05, 08:18 AM
I have not notices the toe overlay on my Proprad like I have on my road bike and I got big feet.
Well I am sure it is there on my Poprad. Its a 57cm frame. I am 6'2" with size 12 feet.
Al

noisebeam
01-20-05, 08:21 AM
Check out what Sheldon Brown has to say about it (look about 1 page down in this link):
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/upgrade.html

I agree that in practice it is a non issue, even on a CX bike.

Al