Classic & Vintage - Vintage Bicycle or Rifle???

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randyjawa
08-27-12, 06:10 PM
It is not often that I get excited these days when I find an old bike. Recently however, the Dump has offered up a nice old Bottecchia Model Special, a lovely Falcon something or other, a clean Dawes Galaxy, another Falcon something or other, a Vitus 979 (believe it or not) and several other lesser bikes including an Allegro, a Giant, a LeMage, a Holdsworth, a Bianchi and a lovely yellow and blue Jeunet. But which one did I get excited about..?
Just picked it up, and I had to pay actual money for the bike, an hour ago. The bicycle is a double top tube rod brake Wondsor Winchester. I love it and a fellow walking down the back lane offered to triple my investment, if I would sell him the bicycle. Not a chance just yet.
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I need to move to Canada :p Nice finds indeed ! More photos of that please !!
Cheers,
Joe
10speedterror
08-27-12, 08:40 PM
lets see the holdsworth!
randyjawa
08-27-12, 08:49 PM
1971 Holdsworth Record in near original condition. I sold the bike last week but offered to throw in a set of 1971 Campy high flange Gran Sport to Weinmann wheels that I just assembled today. True tomorrow and ship on Friday. The fellow also wants to buy my Viking. Anyway, the Holdsworth Record...
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=259958&d=1341537786
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10speedterror
08-27-12, 09:59 PM
man do i love holdsworths! great color scheme and i really like them little fenders!
Captain Blight
08-27-12, 10:39 PM
I don't get it. Thunder Bay isn't that big a town and your riding season is really just 3 weeks of poor sledding. What is going on that so many nice older bikes are just getting dumped? Are you the northern terminus for a line of bicycle thieves or something?
puchfinnland
08-27-12, 11:06 PM
its that bike thief!!!
he just marks the bikes
and the thief takes them to the dump for him!
pretty nice arrangement.
randyjawa
08-28-12, 04:27 AM
its that bike thief!!!
he just marks the bikes
and the thief takes them to the dump for him!
Now that is offensive! I do not have anything to do with stolen bicycles and sincerely resent the implication.
Gravity Aided
08-28-12, 04:35 AM
its that bike thief!!!
he just marks the bikes
and the thief takes them to the dump for him!
pretty nice arrangement.
Not a very nice thing to say , under any circumstances .
Chrome Molly
08-28-12, 06:07 AM
Having been to Thunder Bay on numerous occasions, I think the volume of cast off's is due to their exceptionally good taste in many different things (including bicycles). I love to see these finds, both because I know they are out there, and I know there is good humanitarian work being done with so many other bikes that us C&V'ers might pass over.
oddjob2
08-28-12, 06:28 AM
I just think all the bikes dumped in the Great Lakes must wash ashore at Thunder Bay.:)
Ironically, the thunderbay craigslist has exactly one bike listed this morning! Maybe Randy has cornered the market by giving away bikes through the co-op!:thumb:
noglider
08-28-12, 10:01 AM
Now that is offensive! I do not have anything to do with stolen bicycles and sincerely resent the implication.
I know you're not a thief, and I don't know what puchfinnland is saying. But calling that place "the dump" implies to us on bikeforums that it's where people drop stuff off expecting it to be worthless. That's not true in your case, as I believe you've publicized the fact that you collect the drop-offs there and fix them and send them to Bikes for Humanity or some organization like that.
I think Puch was wisecracking.....ok, not the best choice of wisecracks, but I dont think he meant anything by it.
Also, yes, I thought you (Randy) meant DUMP, as in place where people drop of garbage and used up worthless stuff.......
Anyhow, lets all just lighten up and not let this thread follow an ugly tangent.
Cheers,
Joe
JunkYardBike
08-28-12, 11:18 AM
Anyhow, lets all just lighten up and not let this thread follow an ugly tangent.
Bike flipping is an ugly business.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
08-28-12, 02:05 PM
Bike flipping is an ugly business.
So True. I've seen some real Mingers selling old Bikes.
Bianchigirll
08-28-12, 02:14 PM
This is a great looking bike but I resent Bianchis being refered to as 'Lesser bike' in the company of Giants and Holdsworth Sheesh! ;)
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=269778&d=1346112502
Have you had time to do any research yet? Any relation to Winchester Repeating Arms?
Captain Blight
08-28-12, 02:21 PM
Now that is offensive! I do not have anything to do with stolen bicycles and sincerely resent the implication.
Sorry, didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest.
Really.
curbtender
08-28-12, 02:35 PM
Doesn't everybody get thier bikes from the dump??? Awsome finds. We have some aggressive metal scrappers that have really cut off the vintage flow.
Reynolds
08-28-12, 06:09 PM
I really like those bars on the Winchester.
Gravity Aided
08-29-12, 05:52 AM
Winchester seems to have had their name
associated with many things , flashlights and knives and things .
BrowninG sold 3 models of bikes in the 70's as well .
curbtender
08-29-12, 03:04 PM
Winchester seems to have had their name
associated with many things , flashlights and knives and things .
BrowninG sold 3 models of bikes in the 70's as well .
Yep, this fell out of a can in the early eighties along with another glove...
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/curbtender/003.jpg
noglider
08-29-12, 03:38 PM
Doesn't everybody get thier bikes from the dump??? Awsome finds. We have some aggressive metal scrappers that have really cut off the vintage flow.
I got my 1971 Super Course from the trash, one street away from my home. Later, I met the guy who had rebuilt the bike for the woman who threw it out. He had picked it from the trash a few towns over. Later, I met the woman who threw it out. She was glad it went to good use. I've ridden it more than any other bike in the past four years.
Gary Fountain
08-29-12, 07:15 PM
Ho Boy - Great place Canada. I would consider moving from sunny and warm Queensland, Aust. to be near a recycling 'Dump' like yours. What an interesting 'string' of great recycled bikes but I do like your final choice.
randyjawa
12-14-12, 03:18 PM
I finally managed to get some new articles published (http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/FREE_SITE_1/FREE_SITE_8_Whats_New.htm) on my website. Though some of you might want to see a bit more of this lovely old Windsor Winchester (http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/Feature_Bicycles/Roadsters_Traders/WINDSOR_WINCHESTER/Windsor_Winchester_1_Intro.htm)...
http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/Bicycles_Table/Raodster_Bicycles/Windsor_Winchester/Windsor_Winch_Fork_1.jpg
oldskoolwrench
12-14-12, 03:38 PM
Doesn't everybody get thier bikes from the dump??? Awesome finds. We have some aggressive metal scrappers that have really cut off the vintage flow.
Actually, where I live it's against the law to remove anything from a Landfill... of course, I presume that Randy is pulling bikes from a Recycling Center, and not from a Landfill or a trash dump.
I'm also sure that puchfinland's tongue in cheek reply was meant in jest, and not derogatory.
Lighten up a bit, guys... it's the Holidays!
randyjawa
12-14-12, 06:40 PM
I presume that Randy is pulling bikes from a Recycling Center, and not from a Landfill or a trash dump.
Nope - I get a lot of bikes from the Dump and, yes, it is illegal. However...
The manager is an environmentally conscious guy and allows me to take bikes. In fact, other Landfill sites, in the area, are considering allowing it also. One small town, near Thunder Bay, has the proposal before city council right now. And, let's face it...
Reusing is a step above recycling, is it not? We can all make a difference, if we try and go at it gently, as far as I am concerned.
CrankyFranky
12-14-12, 08:02 PM
Reusing is a step above recycling, is it not? We can all make a difference, if we try and go at it gently, as far as I am concerned.
Amen, brother!
Chris_in_Miami
12-14-12, 10:54 PM
That Winchester is a beauty. what a cool score!! I rarely find decent bikes at my dump, but oddly, I have picked up an astonishing collection of rifles there... Changes in lattitudes, etc...
krobinson103
12-14-12, 11:22 PM
I have picked up an astonishing collection of rifles there...
People throw away rifles? Back home in New Zealand owning a rifle is hard enough and they are all tracked. If you want to dispose of it you have to give it to the police who render it useless before recycling.Seems... foolish to throw away a firearm that could be used by anyone.
randyjawa
12-15-12, 05:12 AM
Seems... foolish to throw away a firearm that could be used by anyone.
Seems foolish to me to have firearms, in the first place, but that would be a topic for the perfect world, not the one we all live in:-(
I have found one, and only one, rifle at the Dump (Landfill Site) and that firearm was a flintlock muzzle loading wonder (sorry no pics of this event). I immediately gave the rifle to the fellow who was attending the disposal area, at the time. Though not positive, I am pretty sure that he just kept the rifle, rather than call the police. I should add that I was unaware of the legal requirements, regarding the situation, at the time.
One other time (just last July), my son and I found a whole bunch of bullets (high powered rifle bullets) in a dumpster at the Dump. It just so happened that I was chatting with the manager of the Landfill Site, at the time. He informed me that the bullets all needed to be collected and handed over to the police. He then posted one of his employees at the dumpster, informing him that the dumpster was not to be used and that no one was to be allowed to access it in any way. The manager then called the police.
My son and I said our "see ya laters", taking the load of bicycles, including a lovely Vitus 979 Campy equipped frame set(can you see it?)..,
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...off to our next errand, what ever that happened to be. Upon leaving the Dump, my son presented me with one of the bullets, that he had pocketed, before he was made aware of the legal issue. That bullet still sits on my computer desk, but it does occur to me that keeping it is about as stupid as stupid can get.
krobinson103
12-15-12, 05:38 AM
Like the bikes. :) I'm sure you can get some gems out of that pile. My father had a box of live .222 ammo that was so old the brass was green. I'm pretty sure the primer in the caps was more than unsafe. When I saw it and showed it to him he immediatly got rid of them. Bullets in the house with no purpose is an accident waiting to happen. Speaking of bikes all my projects are done... perhaps its time to go and find another in need of rescue.
Grand Bois
12-15-12, 07:10 AM
That exchange took place months ago.
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