Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - NEWBIE from So California Dianne Kavanagh what's my Marinoni worth?
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09-08-12, 09:55 PM
Hi: I'd be grateful for help placing a value on this bike.
First two numbers of Serial are 71
Signed by Marinoni on the top cross bar
Cinelli Campione del mondo handlebars (sorry if my lingo is wrong!)
Shimano 105 braking system
Other Shimano parts
Specialized Pro (France) Tires Mavic MA40 700 x 23C size /construction 60 tpi/aramid bead, all weather performance compound
Regal Leather Seat with Copper Brads (looks orig)
Frame is Large approximately 63-64 CM
Shimano Biopace Computer Designed Drive System
09-08-12, 10:45 PM
This is one time I would advise removing the pedals.
Nice frame, big size, tall guys are cheap.
Little recognition in Southern California.
Locally, I think you would have a hard time finding a buyer at $350.
Nationally, potentially more but subtract the shipping ebay fees and the net may be the same.
This bike can easily be expensive to ship too due to the size.
Taken apart, it will most probably garner more, but one needs the tools and knowhow to do it carefully, and you have much more staging/marketing effort.
If you do attempt to sell it whole, images of the drivetrain side of the bike are superior.
For your reference, the top cross tube is called the top tube. The signature is just a graphic transfer, this was a marketing tool started by the Italians decades ago, it does make one feel the "builder" has signed the work though.
09-08-12, 10:46 PM
09-08-12, 10:48 PM
Your personal valuation? If not, please explain your comprehensive thought process.
Need a full sized pic, taken from the drive side, on a neutral background. Will need it to sell anyway. Component parts are lower end, but OK. Value really is all about the frame. Pedals are discount store level, so I would not highlight that aspect. Tires don't matter, other than their condition (old, dry rotted, versus newish).
As far as Columbus frame, take a picture of the decal.
Hard to tell, frame looks a little tweaked to me.
Value is all about the frame, and its condition: paint, decals, scratches, scrapes, any dings or dents.
Bike looks very clean, which is quite unusual for a thrift store (I have never seen a clean one at a thrift store, and I have bought a lot of bikes at thrift stores over the years).
09-09-12, 04:18 AM
Welcome to the Bike Forums.
Marinoni is a Canadian made bicycle and one of the most respected of any of the high end vintage road bicycles of Canadian origin. The bicycle is made from Columbus SL tubing and likely has Campagnolo drop-outs, features which suggest high end quality.
As for value, there are many things that impact Vintage Bicycle Value (http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/FREE_SITE_VALUE/VALUE_1_Start.htm), and some of them have little to do with the bike itself. Size, time or year, your marketing skills and location all play a very important part. So...
Determining value will be a hit or miss thing. $50.00 is hardly a serious evaluation, in my mind, but people are certainly entitled to their opinions. For my money, and I am very cheap when it comes to buying bicycles, I would not feel uncomfortable paying $350.00, if I were to keep it for myself. If I were to purchase it to sell, I would want to pay a good deal less - say $200 tops and then hope to be able to get $500.00 for the bike. And, I am pretty certain that, even in my horribly depressed market, I would get it.
09-09-12, 05:10 AM
Welcome to the fourms! great looking but big bike.
I would have to agree $300-350 sounds right but you need to wait for the right buyer. I am sort of looking for a bike "kit" and if this was close to me, I would try and buy it for $275 or so and then strip the parts and resell the frame for $100-150
09-09-12, 08:29 AM
Almost every college student who grew up with a mountain bike now wants a road bike. If priced right, they fly out the garage.
If you're selling and near UCLA, USC, UCI, CalTech, or Pepperdine, you should be able to get $275+/- $25 pretty easily. A Shimano 105 group (derailleurs, shifters, brake levers, crankset) indicates a well appointed bike. You should offer delivery if needed. It can be a wasted drive if it doesn't pan out, but after a phone call and a coupe of emails, you can seperate out the real buyer from the pretender.
Take better photos, like the ones the guys here post, and show the derailleurs, the Columbus tubing stickers, the wheel hubs. Make sure to state the frame tubing type in the title of the listing.
+100 on removing those $10 pedals. They belong on a cruiser bike, not a lightweight bike. It's not uncommon to sell a high end bike without pedals.
09-09-12, 11:46 AM
Just missed a neat Marinoni with eyelets, fenders and full Shimano tri-color the other day for $250.
Bright blue and clean, so I certainly would not pay much more than that for that one.
Should be a nice rider tough.
09-09-12, 01:46 PM
That is one huge Macaroni! I just sold my Reynolds Macaroni frame (small size though) for $240. I think $300 - 350 for that whole thing would be reasonable given the huge size and lower end components. The 105 components aren't worth much so no point in splitting it up.
EDIT: That does not include the shipping charge, so I guess they are technically paying over $300 for it.
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