Bicycle Mechanics - Tubular Tires/Also at General Topics

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1960frejus
09-10-12, 07:25 PM
Hi Everyone I'm not getting much help at the other Blog/Gen. topics, so maybe I'll have better luck here as I need this info as quickly as possible, because I would like to purchase the correct tubular tire size for the wheels set I have now...
Need some help as it's been many, many years since my days riding with tubular tires. I just purchased these Wheel set and need the tubular tire size for them. I know they were listed as 700CC. On the rim it says HR 22... is this then the size tubs to get for these wheels... 700CC X 22 ??? Appreciate any help with this issue... Thanks... Just want to make sure I purchase the correct Tubular Tires...
Philo
HillRider
09-10-12, 07:41 PM
Are you certain these are tubular rims, not clinchers? Based on photo #4 showing the Velox rim tape, I can't believe they are tubulars. You can't glue tires to rim tape like that.
jamesdak
09-10-12, 07:47 PM
Yep NISI HR 22 show up as clinchers on a google search.
+1, those are 700c clincher rims. A tubular rim doesn't have side flanges, it's just a shallow curve which matches the curve of an Italian sausage.
dsbrantjr
09-10-12, 07:53 PM
Here's a Velobase enry which indicates that they are clinchers as well:http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=eeed2320-2379-4dc3-8337-4e8fd8f0799f&Enum=107
1960frejus
09-10-12, 08:00 PM
Thank you all so very much for clearing up what Clincher are for me... Even the seller sent me a message, but he didn't really go into length as to what clinchers are and that they are not meant for tubular tires, so it's back to the drawing board for me to find some wheels that are meant for tubular tires. I post these for sell, now to find out what they are worth... Thanks everyone...
Philo
ultraman6970
09-10-12, 10:32 PM
What kind of hub are u looking for?? 6 speed? 10 speed? campangolo? shimano??? I use exclusively tubulars and I put a wheelset together that I have used maybe 3 times.
Dave Mayer
09-11-12, 12:29 PM
Thank you all so very much for clearing up what Clincher are for me... Even the seller sent me a message, but he didn't really go into length as to what clinchers are and that they are not meant for tubular tires, so it's back to the drawing board for me to find some wheels that are meant for tubular tires. I post these for sell, now to find out what they are worth... Thanks everyone...
Philo
Yes, you now have a clincher wheelset that appears to be made for a 6 or 7-speed freewheel. So your rear stay spacing is probably 126mm. But you have to check that.
The good news is that vintage tubular wheelsets are worth between nothing and close to nothing. In fact good vintage hubs are worth more than the wheelsets because of the shipping expensive involved. The most I have ever paid for a 7-speed tubular wheelset was $100, and those had C-Record first generation cassette hubs, Omega V tubular rims, high-end spokes and good, almost new tires. And a fresh 7-speed Campagnolo cassette (yes, a cassette).
So send out an ad locally (Craigslist or equivalent) for an ex-racer with a stash of old wheels. At a minimum, you should be able to swap your new clinchers for an even higher quality set of tubulars - at par.
fietsbob
09-11-12, 12:40 PM
you buy tubs by the dozen not the each, since they are a PIA to mend punctures .
people go thru the mended ones , before doing a few days of sewing and patching ,
to mend he ones that dont hold air anymore
cranky old road
09-11-12, 01:47 PM
Just to be clear:
Clincher rims use tires with separate inner tubes.
Tubular tires are also called sew-ups and are glued to the rim. They have no separate inner tube.
Tubular tires are also called sew-ups
AKA singles in Oz.
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