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01-24-05, 01:23 PM
This little story is taken from Chicago author John Green's website, www.sparksflyup.com
Here's the specific link: www.sparksflyup.com/bikemessenger.html

Here's the full text, it's sure to get your little keyboards clacking....

The Bike Messenger

I got run over by a bike messenger last week at the corner of Clark and Division. Like all accidents involving bike messengers, this one wasn't his fault. Oh no. I was foolishly standing still at a crosswalk, thereby providing an excellent target, and I am deeply sorry for my carelessness. I'm sure that bike messenger has a very sore shoulder, on account of how the collision broke my nose and gave me a concussion. I wish he had waited around long enough for me to apologize and get his address. If nothing else, I owe him a deep tissue massage of that shoulder. Oh, yeah, and he owes me 4,000 dollars in hospital bills.
I think it's safe to say that most Chicagoans sort of, you know, hate bike messengers. By and large, they're a pretty unpleasant lot of people, what with their flagrant disregard for the sanctity of human life. I know I'm not supposed to say that, since bike messengers are young and poor and trendy like me. But a funny thing happened to me as I lay on the ground bleeding profusely from the face. I didn't care about defending the young and poor and trendy anymore. I just wanted to kill me some bike messengers.

So here's my question: Can I go after this guy even if I have to beat up a lot of innocent bike messengers on my way to the evil one? See, all I remember about the individual in question is that he was Caucasian and blurry, so in order to be good and sure I get him, I'll need to beat the holy living heck out of every white, male bike messenger in Chicago.

At first, I worried my plan might be either illegal or immoral, but then I remembered President Bush's exciting new foreign policy initiatives, which encourage me, so far as I can tell, to exact vengeance upon my iron-shouldered nemesis by any means necessary.

The President has argued that Saddam Hussein, the President of Iraq, poses a threat to the world and therefore must be toppled. Well, if you aren't convinced that the bike messenger who mauled me poses a threat to Chicago's pedestrians, let me invite you to gaze upon the festering pool of flesh that used to be my face.

Clearly, we have to eradicate the twin tyrannies of evil bike messengers and evil dictators. I can trust President Bush to take on Saddam, but if I don't take dramatic measures to make Chicago's streets safe for walking, who will? The wusses at the United Nations? They'll just debate over whether my nose is actually fractured for months before deciding that while my nose IS broken, it wouldn't be fair to hold thousands of bike messengers accountable for the misdeeds of one.

I would love to have broad support for my cause, but if I have to act unilaterally, I am not afraid. If necessary, I will defy the world to avenge my crooked nose, and I salute President Bush for sharing my vision of vigilante justice.

After all, Saddam Hussein IS a pretty bad guy. Not only is he a ruthless tyrant, he has also written three novels, each of which is by all accounts unimaginably horrid. I find it impossible to forgive the sentimental prose of dictators, and so I'm all in favor of doing away with Hussein and replacing him with someone who is either a better person or a better writer.

And I have no doubt that we WILL kill him. Look what we did to Manuel Noriega! Oh, wait. He's still alive. Well, Mullah Omar, then. Oh, yeah, still alive. And Milosevic is still alive, too. Bin Laden? Still alive, unless he died, in a stirring testament to the precision of American smart bombs, of kidney failure. So I guess maybe we aren't so good at killing the evildoers. But we're sure good at killing the regular folks, which is good enough for me, because secretly, I don't want justice for that bike messenger. I just want revenge.


dabern
01-24-05, 01:32 PM
ok, fess up, which one of you chicago boys did this?

powers2b
01-24-05, 01:44 PM
Like all accidents involving bike messengers, this one wasn't his fault. Oh no. I was foolishly standing still at a crosswalk, thereby providing an excellent target, and I am deeply sorry for my carelessness. [/I]

That says enough for me.
If he stood in the middle of the street and got his ankles taken out by a Corvette would he go around hating all vette drivers because he was too dumb to stay on the sidewalk until the light changed?
What a maroon.


pitboss
01-24-05, 01:45 PM
bah - dime a dozen. F him. So b/c a bike messenger hit him, all of them are bad. What a ******. Anything that happens to him at this point, he deserves.

Clark and Division - I'd be curious to know the time of day and what day it was.

"to make Chicago's streets safe for walking" - streets are for walking j^ckass...the sidewalk is though. Stay there.

trekkie820
01-24-05, 01:47 PM
Thats what he gets for not looking before crossing. I bet he was blabbing on a cell phone or something and not paying attention to what was happening.

ofofhy
01-24-05, 01:50 PM
']bah - dime a dozen. F him.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0525475060/qid=1095981386/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-1972927-0536030?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

A steal at $10.87

hammye
01-24-05, 01:57 PM
Or he may have just been standing there. I don't really believe this but you never know. I have hit a few pedestrians in my delivery days. Some were my fault and some were not. Unless I knew for a fact that they were not really hurt I would always stay and find out. It would be a funny thing if I took his outlook and just started smashing into folks for no other reason than their misfortune for using their legs and feet while out in the street.

Ya Tu Sabes
01-24-05, 02:04 PM
I definitely hit some pedestrians in my messenger days, though mostly 'cause they walked out in the street without looking. The thing is, they figure they're walking out only a little bit so it's OK, but that's the little bit that belongs to us. For what it's worth, though, the political commentary part of this essay is fairly amusing, and if we can respond by saying, "one accident with one messenger is a dumb reason to kill all messengers," then maybe we're subtly getting an important message about our esteemed president's foreign policy.

jfmckenna
01-24-05, 02:32 PM
That was one of the most advanced ADD articles I've ever read. Jeez the guy is all over the place. What a cry baby. Didn't his momma teach him to look both ways when crossing the street?

Fugazi Dave
01-24-05, 02:39 PM
His mind was made up before it even happened. I'll not give him my sympathy. Sort of reminds me of the guy from the CPD I dealt w ith after I got hit. Despite the fact that the taxi driver was standing there right next to me claiming responsibility, in this prick's eyes I was the only person who could possibly have been at fault, etc. His mind was made up before we came in the door.

jimv
01-24-05, 02:58 PM
I think this writer is a bit more nuanced than a first glance suggests. Sure he got hit and is angry. It may have been his fault too (I'm sure he'd say no), but I think he's taking this incident and the accompanied feeling of helplessness (not knowing who hit him) and anger and using it as a launch point for an attack on our present administration. That's why he seems to jump back and forth. It does appear that he holds messengers in low esteem and you can love him or hate him for that, but I don't think the article is really about beating up a 1000 messengers.

He probably should've sat on the story for a week or two....his point would've likely been clearer.

Or, I may have missed the point and given him too much credit.

Jim

Schiek
01-24-05, 03:55 PM
"flagrant disregard for the sanctity of human life..."

Love that line. Damn you and your healthy bike riding!!!!

Also, if you're getting laid out that easily, good luck beating up anybody. I'm not the guy, but if you want to go toe-to-toe Mr. young, poor, and trendy...I'm game.

Also, also, how did he know he was a messenger?

The guy's nose was broken for god's sake...so we know he couldn't have smelled him. Past that, how can you tell these days?

myxbyx
01-24-05, 03:56 PM
I thought his point was, right or wrong, it wasn't fair to blame a large group for the actions of one-reference to his 'good at killing the regular folk'.

I thought a lot of it was toungue in cheek (I hear a bad joke coming), and (I'm gonna get it for this) I believe his version had him standing still AT a crosswalk, not on one.

keevohn
01-24-05, 03:57 PM
My vote's with Jim: messengers just happened to be a clean launch point for a rant on the administration. Just substitute 'pie' for 'bike messenger' and maybe his point is a little more clear.

"...I don't want justice for that pie. I just want revenge."

habitus
01-24-05, 04:05 PM
another vote for the metaphorical argument. i bet he didn't even get hit, but it makes a good story.

crustedfish
01-24-05, 04:09 PM
I can trust President Bush to take on Saddam, bu [/I]

funking republicans

crustedfish
01-24-05, 04:09 PM
this article has been around for awhile. seen it here before.

raygunner
01-24-05, 04:14 PM
Okay, it was me. Plus I'm the one giving people cancer.

raygunner
01-24-05, 04:15 PM
Can't we just kill the young & trendy? Oh, wait...they're working at Reckless, Filter, Earwax, uh...(fill in the blanks) killing themselves slowly....

bostontrevor
01-24-05, 04:54 PM
Jesus, people, think a little harder about this.

Or read it, have a chuckle, and move on. Your choice.

ryan_c
01-24-05, 05:02 PM
Hey, trendy as it may be, I've never had a bad meal at Earwax. However, the one time I purchased a beverage at Filter was enough for me, f that noise.

I wonder if the assumed messenger yelled "look out! no brakes!" before the impact.

gravityhurts
01-24-05, 05:05 PM
*
Okay, it was me. Plus I'm the one giving people cancer.

* Now that's funny!

I also agree with jfmckenna's observations regarding ADD; he strays. His initial objective scattered, his thoughts diluted, any effort for appeal to his audience lost. A shame really, as he clearly demonstrates superior literary skills.

Perhaps the ADDs introduction is a direct result from the collision.

BostonFixed
01-24-05, 05:11 PM
I wonder if the assumed messenger yelled "look out! no brakes!" before the impact.

LOL! :D

absntr
01-24-05, 05:13 PM
John Green is a NPR/WBEZ radio commentator. He's also an avid writer type - read: McSweeney's intellectual type. He's a storyteller. He's pretty decent - I've seen him on stage and met him once when he was co-hosting a show here in at the Hideout (coincidentally he's doing another one with some writer type friends of mine - here (http://www.gapersblock.com/slowdown/archives/2005/01/26/#006835) , if you're interested, I'll be there this Wednesday). While I'm not quite fond of this piece, I put it down to hyperbole -- that sort of excessive exaggerated story to get laughs. No more, no less.

pitboss
01-24-05, 05:26 PM
hyperbole is good - at the expense of something completely non-sensical. Not at the expense of safety of cyclists. Some j^goff made a messenger tag comment last year on WGCI and that, while hyperbole, was not called for. Yes, it happens. No, it is not needed.
The parallels in the story are clever, but the pulp could have been focused on a different urban facet.
If it is true, I would love to see the full extension of the event, not just his perspective. And here I thought anything NPR associated was good. Next year, I will not even think about considering a notion to possibly investigate the off chance I might donate. Fockers...Cartalk can now officially kiss my ^ss

shiftlessbast-
01-24-05, 05:27 PM
Dammit, this Chi talk makes me miss the Windy City like all git-out. Earwax, Hideout, etc.--I'd like nothing better than to be standing at Clark and Division getting concussed by a messenger right now.

pitboss
01-24-05, 05:29 PM
I can help...

shiftlessbast-
01-24-05, 05:36 PM
']I can help...

I'm guessing you're not offering to buy my plane ticket!

absntr
01-24-05, 05:37 PM
True - I'm certainly not defending him, but what isn't played for laughs at the expense of something? It's a cheap tactic for sure - a clever storyteller wouldn't have to use that. I agree with you, but this happens a lot.

He does strike me as a bit of a pretentious fellow so I'm far from impressed.

As for NPR, he is an "occasional" commentator -- I don't know if he's on staff or not. I could ask around.

And if you want to talk to him about it - well this Wednesday at the Hideout. I will be there.


']hyperbole is good - at the expense of something completely non-sensical. Not at the expense of safety of cyclists. Some j^goff made a messenger tag comment last year on WGCI and that, while hyperbole, was not called for. Yes, it happens. No, it is not needed.
The parallels in the story are clever, but the pulp could have been focused on a different urban facet.
If it is true, I would love to see the full extension of the event, not just his perspective. And here I thought anything NPR associated was good. Next year, I will not even think about considering a notion to possibly investigate the off chance I might donate. Fockers...Cartalk can now officially kiss my ^ss

pitboss
01-24-05, 05:59 PM
no can do the Hideout absntr - would be cool though.
And NPR will always be good in my book. Maybe I should have added one of those smileface things...
I am just thinking that if this was meant as a diatribe vs. the current adminitration, there are other tactics to employ. Making it tougher on a group of people who have it pretty f-ing tough already is weak.
Enjoy the night and let me know how it goes. Hideout always delivers.

jpage
01-24-05, 06:11 PM
At least he can spell.

pitboss
01-24-05, 06:14 PM
so could Hitler. What is your point?

skitbraviking
01-24-05, 06:30 PM
Geezers, sensitive people. It seems that the guys is trying to make a point more about Mr. Bush and less about the messer.

Have said that: I, being a white guy who rides a bike typical of messengers, have felt the wrath of people out to maim messers. Let's face it. Plenty messers start **** and don't finish. They antagonize and lots of young urban motorists are out to get anybody on a track bike because some jackass or other or two or three acted the fool in the past. I've been threatened to be run over. Who f=cking needs it? I know that I don't. I sort of wish the guy who got clobbered clocked the messer (or biker, whoever it was) and got his petty revenge right then and there and then it wouldn't be anybody else's problem.

myxbyx
01-24-05, 06:31 PM
I never loved Eva Braun

bostontrevor
01-24-05, 06:35 PM
Under Godwin's Law, I declare this thread over.

skitbraviking
01-24-05, 06:41 PM
Under Godwin's Law, I declare this thread over.


Laws?!... huh!

Schiek
01-24-05, 07:53 PM
Under Godwin's Law, I declare this thread over.

Fascist.

skitbraviking
01-24-05, 07:58 PM
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Under Godwin's Law, I declare this thread over.


Fascist.

Counselor, can you clarify what this ninny's obscure references?

BostonFixed
01-24-05, 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Under Godwin's Law, I declare this thread over.
Counselor, can you clarify what this ninny's obscure references?

Godwin's law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Basically its an internet term, such as 'troll', except that this involves nazis or something.

junioroverlord
01-24-05, 08:32 PM
Lets give this guy credit, he's one step further down the totem pole than even us on the road. How many of us have been hit by a car and gotten super ticked off at motorists?

I hate motorists because they hit me with thier cars, and this guys hates messengers because they hit him with thier bikes.

Who here wouldn't be angry if a messenger rode by and broke thier nose and then RODE OFF?

Everyone generalizes from one example. I know I do.

skitbraviking
01-24-05, 08:50 PM
Who here wouldn't be angry if a messenger rode by and broke thier nose and then RODE OFF?

Everyone generalizes from one example. I know I do.


True but why would you want to be randomly nailed because of his generalizations?

skitbraviking
01-24-05, 08:52 PM
Godwin's law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Basically its an internet term, such as 'troll', except that this involves nazis or something.


Inneresting... Looks like that definition is made from our forum.

ostro
01-24-05, 09:01 PM
Under Godwin's Law, I declare this thread over.

the intentional invocation of Godwin's law is ineffectual considering Quirks exception

Fugazi Dave
01-24-05, 09:06 PM
the intentional invocation of Godwin's law is ineffectual considering Quirks exception

But then, you're forgetting Frank's constant.

ostro
01-24-05, 09:16 PM
But then, you're forgetting Frank's constant.

That statement fits quite well with Sturgeon's law

thechamp
01-24-05, 09:38 PM
when I first read this I thought of the Lucas B video ('drunken racing', or whatever) where he takes a right into a wrong lane of traffic because he doesn't get the light, hits someone and then tries to tell them that it's their fault. B**** will stop and challenge the driver, who has followed him, only when he is surrounded by his friends in the park. then takes off and rides to a bar to disappear into the crowd, surrounded by his friends, to avoid responsibility for his idiocy. I like the footage racing through traffic as much as the next guy but christ, if you hit someone, take some responsibility.

Then I thought about drivers ed where you learn that a pedestrian always has the right of way. even more so in a cross walk. And if he had the light, even moreso, though I guess that's meaningless because bikers don't pay attention to lights half the time anyway.

Most people who hate bikers on the street do so for reasons like this one. We want all the rights but none of the responsibilities. If the guy was a messenger, shouldn't they have insurance? If he was just a biker, and whatever, poor self-styled counterculture slob with no insurance, an apology and an offer to help in some way might have gone a long way.

but then I think about it, and the peice isn't about bikers at all, but rather the government, and phew, I'm glad I don't have to do any more self reflection!

ostro
01-24-05, 09:45 PM
Most people who hate bikers on the street do so for reasons like this one. We want all the rights but none of the responsibilities. If the guy was a messenger, shouldn't they have insurance? If he was just a biker, and whatever, poor self-styled counterculture slob with no insurance, an apology and an offer to help in some way might have gone a long way.


sounds like the Pareto principle to me

skitbraviking
01-25-05, 05:14 AM
You all know what laws of probability and statisical analysis are good for?

MKRG
01-25-05, 05:37 AM
If they are printed on soft paper I can think of one good use.

DKfix
01-25-05, 06:35 AM
You have to give that guy credit. It's amazing how he could write that story and BLOW ME at the same time! :D