Touring - Some questions on hygiene while on tour

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ak08820
10-19-12, 12:26 PM
I have not toured yet but have read many related books and journals and I don't recollect truck stops mentioned as a place to get a shower.
A relative owned a truck stop and he indicated that truck stops have paid showers.

Another question is that when stealth camping, one cannot shower/bathe unless next to a river or lake and weather permitting. I am habituated to shower every morning and and am uncomfortable with the idea of starting a day w/o a shower. I am sure many bike tourists have experienced the same and wonder how to manage. Guess such luxuries have to be left home!


seeker333
10-19-12, 12:38 PM
Touring is partly about expanding your comfort range. The world won't end if you don't bathe daily or smell a little. There's a billion dollar perfume industry that's exists mostly due to the reality that people often stink.

Avoid bathing in rivers/lakes - detergent is bad for aquatic life.

There are quite a few solar showers devices which are nothing more than black water bags with cord. These, or a water bladder made by MSR or Ortlieb will provide a neat, lightweight shower capability along with the obvious necessary water carrying capacity. Don't ruin the material with boiling-hot water. This water bag is nearly perfect with the accessory shower nozzle:

http://www.modernbike.com/itemgroup.asp?igpk=2126196988&TID=367&gclid=CM2q5crcjbMCFQsGnQodmmEAXQ

10 Wheels
10-19-12, 12:42 PM
Sponge baths in restrooms sinks will do the trick.


Machka
10-19-12, 01:08 PM
I am habituated to shower every morning and and am uncomfortable with the idea of starting a day w/o a shower.

Get over it.

Nothing horrible will happen to you if you don't get your morning shower every day ... you can actually go an entire week or more without a shower and be just fine. Bring some baby wipes to do a bit of a clean up if necessary, or use the sink and paper towels in a washroom.

Rowan and I lived in a small, rustic cabin in a rather remote area for a year after the Victorian bushfires. We were completely off the grid, and among other things, we did not have a shower. But we worked around it.


And yes, you can find showers in many places ... truck stops, airports, swimming pools, beaches, campgrounds, hotels, B&Bs, hostels ...

ak08820
10-19-12, 01:16 PM
Yes, the daily shower is a relatively new ritual in the history of mankind. I do remember reading about the Friday night weekly bath families had, sometimes in the same tub of water.

ak08820
10-19-12, 01:17 PM
Sponge baths in restrooms sinks will do the trick.

Sounds good!

TulsaJohn
10-19-12, 02:44 PM
While I grab a shower whenever I can, I have used truck stops, baby wipes, local swimming pools (always have showers) during the summer, a larger town's indoor swimming pool, fire stations, sinks, etc. If I have gone more than 2 days without a "real" shower, I will get one mid-day even if I am doing more riding. While I like truck stops since I can usually do laundry also, I do not come across them very often as they tend to be next to major roads which I rarely ride along.

The primary place to keep clean at least once daily is the crotch and bottom areas. If they get infected (that rash that won't be fixed by typical monkey butt ointments), it is very painful and takes a few days to heal up after you have started taking the antibiotic.

Niles H.
10-19-12, 02:49 PM
I have not toured yet but have read many related books and journals and I don't recollect truck stops mentioned as a place to get a shower.
A relative owned a truck stop and he indicated that truck stops have paid showers.

Another question is that when stealth camping, one cannot shower/bathe unless next to a river or lake and weather permitting. I am habituated to shower every morning and and am uncomfortable with the idea of starting a day w/o a shower. I am sure many bike tourists have experienced the same and wonder how to manage. Guess such luxuries have to be left home!

Keeping clean is a good thing. You can go for long periods without bathing --that much is true. But you can also keep your standards, or even raise them.

You don't need rivers or lakes (but you can use them when available, though it is most responsible to use soaps away from them, and even then to use biodegradable products) or showers. You can use water bottles, 1.5 liters for better capacity. The squirt tops are useful (for shampooing, among other things). You can sometimes find warm water to fill them with, or leave them in the sun for a while.

It also helps to be able to use cold or cool water happily. (After learning to do so I found this to be very liberating.)

A good compact microfiber towel is a godsend. These things are great. You can even find them in earth colors if you look around.

A small squirt bottle for the soap is handy if you are using liquid soap like Bronners (the smaller sizes of which come in just such bottles).

Microfiber towels are also good for sponge baths. They clean very well even without soap. Not kidding -- you can find studies online.

The other thing I have found to be very useful and effective is a spray bottle (mister, atomizer). Extremely useful. Just spray your face for example, or your hands, and then go over them with a microfiber towel, drying and cleaning at the same time. Very effective -- more so than you might expect.

These sprayers are also efficient -- good for conserving water. This can be useful, make it last, and save weight.

And they have many other uses as well -- showering, freshening up, cleaning various items, washing apples, pears and other fruit, etc.

A quick mister shower can be taken in a tent before going to sleep, and helps keep the sleeping bag clean. (I also find that I sleep better when clean.)

You can also mist the nylon fabric of a tent or sleeping bag (also certain clothing items and stains or spills) and then dry/clean with a microfiber cloth. Good for spot cleaning, freshening, and touching up.

These misters come in various sizes and spray patterns. You can find them all over the place. Dollar Tree sells body sprays in small misters that you can just empty out and use. The various misters sold for hair care and barbering can work. Cleaning and car care products come in useful spray bottles, as do many other products. Some salad dressing spray bottles are good. There is a wide array to choose from.

The Travel Bottle Kits at some stores (including DT) sometimes contain a good, compact mister bottle, along with some other small and useful containers. Good kits.

Rowan
10-19-12, 02:59 PM
Touring is partly about expanding your comfort range. The world won't end if you don't bathe daily or smell a little. There's a billion dollar perfume industry that's exists mostly due to the reality that people often stink.

Avoid bathing in rivers/lakes - detergent is bad for aquatic life.

There are quite a few solar showers devices which are nothing more than black water bags with cord. These, or a water bladder made by MSR or Ortlieb will provide a neat, lightweight shower capability along with the obvious necessary water carrying capacity. Don't ruin the material with boiling-hot water. This water bag is nearly perfect with the accessory shower nozzle:

http://www.modernbike.com/itemgroup.asp?igpk=2126196988&TID=367&gclid=CM2q5crcjbMCFQsGnQodmmEAXQ
Have you used one?

I have and it's not particularly practical for bicycle touring unless you intend to remain in one spot for 24 hours when there is intense sunshine -- the water takes about that long to heat up.

After the bushfires mentioned in Machka's post, I lived in a caravan by a lake for three or four months. Using the solar shower became a real nuisance and wasn't practical, even after heating and filling it with water from a pot.

I had more success using ordinary bicycle water bottles.


The primary place to keep clean at least once daily is the crotch and bottom areas. If they get infected (that rash that won't be fixed by typical monkey butt ointments), it is very painful and takes a few days to heal up after you have started taking the antibiotic.
Most of the issues relate to fungal growth related to ringworm or athletes foot, but in the groin and butt region.

Topical treatment with ointment with antifungal agents are preferred. There is a chance of bacterial infections, but they originate in sweat glands and broken skin caused by other issues.

Wiping your arse properly after a crap is a good first-line defence against smells. This is where wet wipes become really handy.

Western Flyer
10-19-12, 03:09 PM
I have used solar showers many times when kayaking and touring by bike if I am offered the use of someone else’s, but they will only work is they are left in the sun during the heat of the day and that mean hauling the water while riding. I don’t carry one on tour. I have a 1.5 liter wide mouth Nalgene bottle I carry in one of those oversize water bottle cages and a soft wide mouth 1.5 liter Nalgene canteen. I fill both to the top and then pour about 600 to 700 ml from one into a pot and bring it to a boil with my home made alcohol stove. I pour the boiling water back into the bottle and throw a jersey or something over it to keep the water warm. I repeat the process with the second bottle. I fashioned a shower spout with parts from REI and the local ACE hardware store and an extra Nalgene top. I get wet with the soft bottle and soap up (with my bike shorts on if I am in a crowded camp ground). Then I pour the hot water from the hard bottle into the soft bottle and rise. Three liters seems to be plenty of water.

The water doesn’t have to be potable, but it does have to be available. No water, no Shower!

staehpj1
10-19-12, 03:17 PM
Get over it.

I have to add a big +1 to that.

Daily bathing is a very recent thing. Through most of human history weekly bathing or less has been the norm. Even within my memory a weekly Saturday night bath was the norm for most folks.

Machka
10-19-12, 03:18 PM
The primary place to keep clean at least once daily is the crotch and bottom areas. If they get infected (that rash that won't be fixed by typical monkey butt ointments), it is very painful and takes a few days to heal up after you have started taking the antibiotic.


Topical treatment with ointment with antifungal agents are preferred. There is a chance of bacterial infections, but they originate in sweat glands and broken skin caused by other issues.


Yes ... and we usually carry Ozonol (or Polysporin) and an antifungal cream with us when we are on randonnees or tours, just in case.


But that rash can be prevented by having a bicycle that fits, a good saddle, decent shorts/pants (not necessarily cycling shorts), and by washing the sitting area with water and drying well with paper towels every now and then. If it does appear, then the Ozonol and/or antifungal cream ... or even zinc oxide cream will help clear it up.

seeker333
10-19-12, 03:19 PM
Have you used one? I have not and it's not particularly practical for bicycle touring unless you intend to remain in one spot for 24 hours when there is intense sunshine -- the water takes about that long to heat up.

Not the solar shower, for the exact reason you mentioned. Solar showers are a lot like solar panels for recharging devices - they work but take too long to be practical for bike touring.

I have used the linked Ortlieb water bag for showering, perhaps 30 times. I mix 50/50 hot/cold water, heated from pot/stove. The 4L bag is just a little too small for a decent shower, really need ~6L but Otlieb only makes them in 4 and then 10L, and I didn't want to pay for or carry the 10L bag. I got 4L bag on sale from Wiggle UK for ~$15 shipped to USA The Ortlieb bags are lighter than MSR, and cheaper, but not as durable. Mine actually weighed 87g with the shower nozzle added, which is super light for any 4l water carrier.

http://www.ortlieb.de/_prod.php?lang=en&produkt=waterbag

Carbonfiberboy
10-19-12, 03:52 PM
Yes, the daily shower is a relatively new ritual in the history of mankind. I do remember reading about the Friday night weekly bath families had, sometimes in the same tub of water.That's what we did when I grew up on a homestead in Alaska. I carry 2 pr. of shorts, one to wear, one in the pannier. I try to wash the used pair somehow every day. Doesn't always get dry, but that's OK. I know some folks can wear one pair for days, but that's too nasty for me. I don't want to give cyclists a bad name . . . A shower every few days is fine.

Clarabelle
10-19-12, 06:04 PM
I have not toured yet but have read many related books and journals and I don't recollect truck stops mentioned as a place to get a shower.
A relative owned a truck stop and he indicated that truck stops have paid showers.

Another question is that when stealth camping, one cannot shower/bathe unless next to a river or lake and weather permitting. I am habituated to shower every morning and and am uncomfortable with the idea of starting a day w/o a shower. I am sure many bike tourists have experienced the same and wonder how to manage. Guess such luxuries have to be left home!

I either sponge or shower at the end of the day rather than in the morning. Salt from sweating attracts moisture making sleeping less comfortable.

Machka
10-19-12, 06:05 PM
I'm one who will wear her cycling shorts several days in a row before washing them. I let them air out at night and they're good to go in the morning. :)

Rowan
10-19-12, 06:33 PM
That's what we did when I grew up on a homestead in Alaska. I carry 2 pr. of shorts, one to wear, one in the pannier. I try to wash the used pair somehow every day. Doesn't always get dry, but that's OK. I know some folks can wear one pair for days, but that's too nasty for me. I don't want to give cyclists a bad name . . . A shower every few days is fine.

I am not sure why there is this perception that cyclists have to stink after a day on the bike. The only area of concern is the butt, and careful attention to wiping after using the toilet can overcome much of that issue. If there is a strong BO smell from the armpits, I would suggest there is a fungal or bacterial issue there that washing won't necessarily clear up.

There are many hikers and backpackers who spend days in the bush and emerge smelling, well, not great, but for most the odour is bearable. And often it is the smell from shoes or boots that stands out most.

Touring cyclists who have been on the road for several days without "washing" haven't smelled any different, in my opinion.

saddlesores
10-19-12, 07:45 PM
easy solution.

2-liter soda bottle. filled with water, bungeed to your rear rack.
most racks have a black platform. if not, a black piece o' plastic under the bottle
to help warm the water. or paint the bottle black. whatever.

end of the ride, you have hot/warm water.

you brought extra soda bottle caps right? of course you did. now take one of
your sewing needles, warm the tip in the flame of your lighter. poke the hot
needle through the top of one of the extra bottle caps. repeat about 15 times.
now change bottle caps. crikey! you gots a hot water sqeezie-shower!

lucille
10-19-12, 08:36 PM
If the shower is that important, stay at hotels/B&Bs and regular campsites that have showers. If that's not available, you can clean yourself very well with a small bottle of water and a little soap, or baby wipes. I take a shower after arriving at the destination, to get rid of dirt and sunscreen, helps keeping the inside of the tent and sleeping bag clean.

I can wear the jersey and socks the second day, if I have to, but not shorts. That's just gross. I have to have clean shorts.

Myosmith
10-19-12, 08:41 PM
If you are going to bathe in a river or lake make sure you bring along the environmentally friendly body wash. It is non-toxic and rapidly biodegrades. You can get it at any camping store. Back in the day they used to recommend plain original Ivory bar soap as being the most biofriendly of the "regular" soaps due to the lack of oils, colorants and perfumes. Just going for a swim and washing using a handcloth without soap will get off the sweat and most of the dirt and will suffice for a day or two.

http://www.vermontsoap.com/press/press7.html

Beware of using a lot of deodorants, powders, etc to control odor as they can also become very irritating to skin when you are sweating alot and have limited chances to shower.

In addition to truck stops, many health clubs, swimming pools, campgrounds and other facilities will allow you to use their showers for a minimal fee. Check ahead with cycle shops or clubs along your route as they usually know of cycling friendly stopping spots with amenities.

Niles H.
10-19-12, 08:47 PM
YMCAs can be useful as well.

andrewclaus
10-19-12, 10:04 PM
www.warmshowers.com

Cycle touring can be anything you want it to be. You can plan your tour around a motel every night and have your daily shower if you really want it.

When I'm stealth camping, I try to wash up at a public restroom sink before I stop. On a warm day, I'll even wash out my clothes and put them on wet. They dry quickly. I carry a small universal sink stopper since many public sinks lack them. On cold days, I'm usually not that sweaty so it's OK to skip a day or maybe four. Like everyone else says, keep the crotch clean and pay attention to your body.

valygrl
10-19-12, 10:41 PM
Showering at night is better than the morning - go to bed clean, wake up clean enough, and it keeps your bag cleaner. I can't stand going to bed with road dirt and sticky sunscreen and sweat on me. Therefore, I strongly prefer camping in campgrounds with showers. If that's not available, sponge baths are a poor substitute but better than nothing.

Also, morning is absolutely the best time to be riding - light winds, light traffic, cool.... I wouldn't waste the best part of the day showering - I get on the road as early as I can.

I wash my bike clothes every night and dry them on the rack the next day. I don't care if people didn't bathe daily for millennia, I like to be clean and wear clean(ish) clothes. It's not that I care what anyone thinks I smell like, it's for me.

I care enough about this that I don't stealth camp unless there is no choice. In months and months and months of touring, I've stealth camped maybe twice, camped with out a shower maybe a dozen times.

I used to live in a van, and was able to shower way less frequently - because it wasn't under my control, it wasn't my van - and that was a source of much dis-satisfaction for me.

rekmeyata
10-19-12, 10:53 PM
Truck stops are good places to take showers, they cost about $10 give or take a dollar, and sometimes you have to wait your turn.

If you have to take a shower or bath outside then the best method is to collect water in a portable plastic container and wash at least 200 feet from a river, stream, lake, pond etc, and use Dr Bronner's 18 in 1 hemp pure Castile soap, this stuff is supposedly the least likely to have any effect on water and you can get it at Walgreens, Target, and Meijer. Then if you have any gray water after washing pour it on the ground at least 400 feet from any water source. Or unscented baby wipes or towelettes or sanitizing wet wipes which kill bacteria which causes odor, or washcloth and baking soda and hot water.

Western Flyer
10-20-12, 12:06 AM
easy solution.

2-liter soda bottle. filled with water, bungeed to your rear rack.
most racks have a black platform. if not, a black piece o' plastic under the bottle
to help warm the water.

Not so easy for me, that's 2 kilos (4.4 lbs) of extra weight I am not willing to truck for the two to three hours required to get it warm.

andrewclaus
10-20-12, 07:45 AM
Another cheap field shower I've heard about, but haven't done yet, is to use a 2 liter Platypus bladder with a spare cap you've drilled a few small holes in. You can carry water in the bladder away from the source, replace the cap with the holy one, and spray yourself down with it.

I agree with the futility of solar showers on a bike tour. I would not like a day where I have that much time sitting around in the sun waiting for water to warm up. And I'm sure as heck not going to carry two extra kilos on my bike, either.

fietsbob
10-20-12, 09:08 AM
I wash the sitzplatz on me, to keep the saddle sores from happening.

the morning cafe sponge wash and shave, Brekkies & coffee
are a good way to start the next day.

Rowan
10-20-12, 11:41 AM
Showering at night is better than the morning - go to bed clean, wake up clean enough, and it keeps your bag cleaner. I can't stand going to bed with road dirt and sticky sunscreen and sweat on me. Therefore, I strongly prefer camping in campgrounds with showers. If that's not available, sponge baths are a poor substitute but better than nothing.

That's why I used a silk bag liner. It's primary function is to keep the sleeping bag cleaner, and the added benefit is that I can use it separately as a cover if the temps rise, plus it adds another few degrees to the rating of the bag in colder weather.

Just to add a bit more discussion to the thread, what do people use for towels? I am finding myself increasingly disappointed with all the "technical" towels, such as the microfibre and such, because I am a wiper rather than a dabber. The towels virtually stick to my skin when I try to wipe them across it.

Plus the towels like this that I have used over the past 15 years or so take sooooo long to dry after use, smell really quickly because of the dampness, and entwine themselves with anything that's got polypro in it in the drier.

I am at the point of seriously considering a cotton tea towel as a lightweight, easier-to-dry and "wipeable" alternative.

Niles H.
10-20-12, 12:01 PM
Liquid soaps like Bronner's are mostly water. Chandrika Ayurvedic Soap is similar but without the water. I like it. Fresh batches are best -- the jasmine scent is fresher.

Niles H.
10-20-12, 12:44 PM
Some microfiber towels are a lot more effective and satisfying to use then the others.

It's similar to nylon fabrics. Some are very soft, with a brushed finish. Some are like windbreakers or tents. Some are like cordura or ballistic nylon. Some are like scouring pads.

The softest, most comfortable microfiber towels include those found in some of the large auto supply stores -- the ones that are specifically made for drying. Some of these are very soft, much more so than cotton terrycloth.

The ones found in kitchen and bath sections of many department stores are often similar to terrycloth. Some have different textures or weaves front and back.

The ones usually sold in backpacking stores are not so great.

There are also some that are made for tougher cleaning jobs, and those are too abrasive for frequent use on skin.

Most of them dry much more quickly than cotton.

They are more immediately absorbent when at least a bit damp.

If they are moderately damp rather than soaking wet, they clean hands and face (and other skin also) very well without soap. It's kind of counter-intuitive or counter-habitual thinking -- but it's true.

Rowan
10-20-12, 12:50 PM
Niles, I have been through just about every combination of towel, including the ones from automotive stores and kitchen sections in the supermarket, as well as the ones from camping and outdoor shops.

Maybe I just like the rub factor of a nice cotton towel. And I suppose that's what the question is: How many others opt for a simple linen kitchen towel instead of a terry towelling one, or a microfibre-type towel?

Niles H.
10-20-12, 12:54 PM
Just wanted to add that the ones mentioned that are made for drying are very absorbent, and that lighter and brighter colors show the dirt very rapidly (in part because the material picks it up so effectively).

Niles H.
10-20-12, 01:24 PM
Niles, I have been through just about every combination of towel, including the ones from automotive stores and kitchen sections in the supermarket, as well as the ones from camping and outdoor shops.

Maybe I just like the rub factor of a nice cotton towel. And I suppose that's what the question is: How many others opt for a simple linen kitchen towel instead of a terry towelling one, or a microfibre-type towel?

If you are open to the possibility that there might be varieties you are not yet familiar with, you might find something new. It sounds like you haven't done them all. You can't have. Some are quite high in the rub factor.

As to why others opt: most simply haven't experimented with the full range. Also, European and Australian shops, among others, usually don't have as wide a selection of a variety of items. USA consumerist extravaganza is legend. (Not saying it's all good necessarily, or not for that matter; but it has its perks.) I've had to do some real and persistent scouring, even here, to find the really good stuff.

The best microfiber towels I have tried blow cotton and linen out of the water.

There is also this factor that affects the opting: Some people, including me, prefer natural fabrics. But when I came across the exceptionally nice microfiber towels, their far superior functionality overrode the natural fiber aspect. It's not like I'm wearing them full time.

I know people who have such a strong dislike for anything manmade/synthetic that they are not open. Others just aren't aware of the more unusual or hard to find microfiber types and their advantages. Or they have tried a limited number and assume that's it.

Low on time here. Please excuse any typos. Later.

Peace to all. Have a great journey.

staehpj1
10-20-12, 02:43 PM
I'm one who will wear her cycling shorts several days in a row before washing them. I let them air out at night and they're good to go in the morning. :)
I do about the same.

Carbonfiberboy
10-20-12, 03:03 PM
A PackTowl is all you need for the getting dry part. My wife and I can both dry off with one that's about 1' X 2' or maybe smaller.

staehpj1
10-20-12, 03:28 PM
For towels I have found that a great alternative is to buy microfiber car towels from somewhere like Pep Boys. I think there were about four 12"x16" ones in a package for about $6. I think the brand was Peak. I find them just as good as the ones at REI for much cheaper.

andrewclaus
10-20-12, 07:45 PM
A PackTowl is all you need for the getting dry part. My wife and I can both dry off with one that's about 1' X 2' or maybe smaller.

Do you guys fight about who goes first?:)

I used something like a sham-wow on my last trip that a neighbor gave me--worked great.

Carbonfiberboy
10-20-12, 08:19 PM
Do you guys fight about who goes first?:)

I used something like a sham-wow on my last trip that a neighbor gave me--worked great.No. The woman should always go first. ;) You know that.

lucille
10-20-12, 08:28 PM
Yeah, those microfiber towels are not great, but good enough. Another reason to shower as soon as you arrive at the campsite, gives towels time to dry out.

jfowler85
10-22-12, 03:20 AM
Get over it.

Quality advice, Dr. Phil. :rolleyes:

rekmeyata
10-22-12, 08:36 AM
Kind of funny, but most countries the people only take showers once every 4 to 6 days because water is precious and expensive. You go to places like Iraq and all around that area those people stink, but they don't think they do, it's just the westerners that think that way. Having said that, since we are westerners living in a western society you don't want to offend people either, if you know your going to a public area like a store to buy supplies, or eat out, it's probably best to shower after riding all day if possible.

staehpj1
10-22-12, 08:54 AM
Kind of funny, but most countries the people only take showers once every 4 to 6 days because water is precious and expensive. You go to places like Iraq and all around that area those people stink, but they don't think they do, it's just the westerners that think that way. Having said that, since we are westerners living in a western society you don't want to offend people either, if you know your going to a public area like a store to buy supplies, or eat out, it's probably best to shower after riding all day if possible.

I will add that people in the more rural US seem more tolerant about such things than those from more urban areas. It seemed to me that in fly-over land it is just not so much of an issue.

My approach is to shower daily when it is convenient and to not obsess over it if it isn't for a few days here and there.

rekmeyata
10-22-12, 09:02 AM
I will add that people in the more rural US seem more tolerant about such things than those from more urban areas. It seemed to me that in fly-over land it is just not so much of an issue.

My approach is to shower daily when it is convenient and to not obsess over it if it isn't for a few days here and there.

Exactly, though the only people that I've run into here in America that have body odor most of the time are Amish, and country hill type of people - if you get my drift, no pun intended. The vast majority of people in America take daily showers, and the Japanese are more so then we are!

indyfabz
10-22-12, 10:07 AM
Get over it.

+1. I crossed the country with 12 people. Not one of them ever considered a shower in the morning. I actually find the idea of a shower before the ride odd since you often get sweaty early on. And if you tour in colder places, it's funny how the morning air will make the thought of stepping out of a campground shower stall in an unheated bathroom seem no so appealing. If you really feel unclean, heat some water and wash up with something like a pak towel.

staehpj1
10-22-12, 10:27 AM
Not one of them ever considered a shower in the morning.
+1
I shower at the campsites or lodging where it is convenient, but it wouldn't even occur to me to do so in the morning when on tour. Getting rid of sunscreen and road grit in the afternoon/evening before turning in is a really nice luxury, but is just that a luxury. Showering in the morning on tour seems pointless to me. Different strokes though.

rekmeyata
10-22-12, 12:52 PM
Plus 2 or 3. Why would you shower in the morning when you know you're going to be stinking by days end of cycling? If I'm at home I will shower in the morning if I'm not going to be riding till later in the day, then shower again afterwards, or ride in the morning without showering first then shower when I get home; but while touring it's just in the evening so I don't stink up my bag, or if I go out on the town and will be around the public. By shower I mean either shower or handy wipe or some such cleaning process. But most of the time I have to do some sort of cleaning or I start to itch from the salt on my body. More info then you wanted to know ehh? Really it's not all that hard to find a shower, or a road side rest stop with a sink works fine with a cloth and soap; wipes work in a pinch if no water is around; just have to be creative.

Machka
10-22-12, 01:23 PM
Kind of funny, but most countries the people only take showers once every 4 to 6 days because water is precious and expensive.

Even in Australia, when the country was in drought, people were being advised to cut back on the showers. Several people I know would shower every other day. Not long after I got there, the drought ended, but even so, I figured showering about 5 days a week (when we moved to a place that actually had a shower) was good enough.

ak08820
10-23-12, 04:53 AM
Kind of funny, but most countries the people only take showers once every 4 to 6 days because water is precious and expensive. You go to places like Iraq and all around that area those people stink, but they don't think they do, it's just the westerners that think that way. Having said that, since we are westerners living in a western society you don't want to offend people either, if you know your going to a public area like a store to buy supplies, or eat out, it's probably best to shower after riding all day if possible.

Most countries?
I grew up in India and I observed that people bathed according to water availability and economic condition. E.g., It was taught in secondary school ('60s) geography that Rajasthan is a desert state and people don't bathe daily, some even use sand to run their body with and cleanse. However, that is applicable when you are a member of a nomadic tribe tending to sheep and camels in the desert an living a lifetime in tents or you live in present day Mumbai in a slum sharing a room with a dozen other folks and have no access to or the leisure time to use a faucet (let alone a bathroom) every day. Normal city living folks do not abide by those norms. I have also read that some W. Europeans also do not bathe daily and have strong BO. Occasionally, I have come close to (in public places, not emotionally ;-)) some folks in the US, too who wear winter jackets that have never seen a laundry machine in its lifetime and are surrounded by a cloud of strong vinegar/sweat/piss like smell. They must be thinking that it is perfectly normal. Also, I hosted relatives from foreign countries and had to hand them a deodorant the day they arrive as the ride from the airport to home was suffocating with armpit BO in each case. The same BO was normal and acceptable in those countries. However, this is not the first quarter of the 20th century and most of us (those reading this) are perhaps not tilling a farm with a horse and with no one around for miles, so I think that some form of daily cleansing is required when cycling. The sponge bath at a sink or 2 liter water bottle cleansing seem to be practical alternates to a shower.

indyfabz
10-23-12, 07:47 AM
OP: Out of curiosity, if you are uncomfortable with starting the day without a shower, how do you feel when you, say, walk into a cafe for lunch or a store to grab some groceries after 40 miles in the saddle on a hot, humid day?

staehpj1
10-23-12, 08:29 AM
Maybe wandering off of the original topic a bit, but...

I am pretty tuned in to how people react to me when on tour and I have found that how you smell is way less of a big deal than other factors, like:


Do you have a warm and genuine for smile them. I find that if you do they return the same attitude. A cheesy fake smile does not suffice and may be worse than nothing.
Do you have respect them or have a condescending, disapproving, or otherwise bad attitude toward them. People can sense this and will react to you accordingly. You can disagree with their politics or religion or whatever and it is OK, but if you think of them as dumb hicks they will know and will treat you accordingly.
Do you take off your sunglasses and make eye contact when speaking to people. This makes a huge difference. I was amazed at the difference I observed on this one and it is a simple thing to do.