Well I'm sorry, but no I don't have a clue as to what that phrase means.

Try KaZaA.

Gotta say it: I laughed to

The explanation is much better than the original insult which was just crap. A crap insult followed by a funny explanation.

If you can't handle being called a fag at least 10 million times then bmx is definitely not the sport to you. I ride flatland, I know what being called a fag is all about. :)

Ok, I'm very sorry that I misunderstood your post Beerman. And I thought that he was a she because he has queen in his name, so I'm sorry for the gender confusion. But you still didn't anwser my question, are you on 'his' side? You just posted 'I laughed' , that doesn't really express your intention.


queens new york dickhead

you are such an idiot.you consider the word fag perverted.you feel insulted when bmxtrix said to go on a diet and lose 5 pounds .you get upset when you are called a "kid" .you cant be 15. if you speak like that in high school, people would beat the **** out of you every day.and by the way, head is when you put your mouth on somebodys genitals.

If you can't handle being called a fag at least 10 million times then bmx is definitely not the sport to you. I ride flatland, I know what being called a fag is all about.

I know what a ****** is, and I can handle it because I don't care what people call me. But the thing I don't get is why they feel the need to call people that, even ones they don't know.

you are such an idiot.you consider the word fag perverted.you feel insulted when bmxtrix said to go on a diet and lose 5 pounds .you get upset when you are called a "kid" .you cant be 15. if you speak like that in high school, people would beat the **** out of you every day.and by the way, head is when you put your mouth on somebodys genitals.

I was not insulted by BMXTRIX when he said to 'go on a diet and lose 5 pounds', I thought it was an insult at the time, but I wasn't insulted by it. And I don't consider the word ****** perverted, I consider the people that say it all of the time perverted, kind of like you. And I don't know where you got the idea that I was upset because Beerman called me a kid, why would I be upset, I am a kid. Duh. I bet you feel really cool walking with your loser freinds around in your highschool, talking the way you do and insulting people you don't know. And the if you feel the need to repeadidly call me an idiot, then you're the one that's the only true idiot.

And I don't consider the word ****** perverted, I consider the people that say it all of the time perverted, kind of like you.

Yes, because calling someone a fag makes you a pervert, just like Michael Jackson or a Catholic priest.

Can we end this?

I don't think we should. This thread is a veritable comedy goldmine.

who cares who's agy and who isn't anyway? it's their choice.

cromoly faggets are better then aluminum fags... that is what this thread's about right? or was it cranks? hmmm...

cromoly faggets are better then aluminum fags... that is what this thread's about right? or was it cranks? hmmm...

It was originally about cranks until queenrider whats his face called me and someone else a ******, which was totally unessecary and wrong. He doesn't know anything about the people he's calling faggets, which shows him up to be pretty stupid.

Can we end this?

I would like to end this, it's getting annoying talking to a person who insults people they know nothing about.

I don't think we should. This thread is a veritable comedy goldmine.

You know Beerman, it is actually pretty funny, but what we're argueing about isn't funny because I don't like being insulted by someone I don't know, and who doesn't know me either. But I try to be as nice as I can, so I'm just going to laughing it all off, and let that loser queenrider keep insulting me. His insults don't bother me, it just shows how stupid he is. Why should I waste my time with this perve when I could be riding my bike? I mean come on! LOL

It was originally about cranks until queenrider whats his face called me and someone else a ******, which was totally unessecary and wrong. He doesn't know anything about the people he's calling faggets, which shows him up to be pretty stupid.


i said to justin time "you two are straightup homos". I was surprised that you would know right away that you were the second homo.

You know Beerman, it is actually pretty funny, but what we're argueing about isn't funny because I don't like being insulted by someone I don't know, and who doesn't know me either. But I try to be as nice as I can, so I'm just going to laughing it all off, and let that loser queenrider keep insulting me. His insults don't bother me, it just shows how stupid he is. Why should I waste my time with this perve when I could be riding my bike? I mean come on! LOL


this is exactly what i mean. you say that you dont like being insulted by me, yet you also say that my insults dont bother you .make up your mind. how am i a perv. because i called you a fag.most people have heard way more perverted things than fag, but not you. you are not familiar with the phrase "giving head"

Ok, I'm very sorry that I misunderstood your post Beerman. And I thought that he was a she because he has queen in his name, so I'm sorry for the gender confusion. But you still didn't anwser my question, are you on 'his' side? You just posted 'I laughed' , that doesn't really express your intention.


if you dont like being insulted by a person you dont know, then why would it matter if you have somebody you dont know on your side.But its also okay for you to flirt with someone you dont know, justin time

You know Beerman, it is actually pretty funny, but what we're argueing about isn't funny because I don't like being insulted by someone I don't know, and who doesn't know me either. But I try to be as nice as I can, so I'm just going to laughing it all off, and let that loser queenrider keep insulting me.

If you were just laughing it off, you wouldn't have posted the six (seven?) paragraphs defending and explaining yourself thus far.

And if anyone wants my actual opinion on the matter, I called in a team of BMXBoard experts into here (including, but not limited to, the one and only LJWunder) to look into the matter with me. After careful examination and analysis of the posts, the timing of the posts, writing styles, grammatical and spelling errors, we have come to believe that Just In Time and FlyBoy are not only the same completely uniformed person, but are, in fact, none other than Standard Bykes' very own Rick Moliterno. Nice try, Mr. Moliterno. I'm still waiting for you to announce the release of Standard's OX-Platinum cranks, which will cost ninety dollars more than they're really worth, just like every other welded Standard product.

i said to justin time "you two are straightup homos". I was surprised that you would know right away that you were the second homo.

Hmm duh, I'm not stupid. But there was no need for you to say that, since it's definetly not true.

If you were just laughing it off, you wouldn't have posted the six (seven?) paragraphs defending and explaining yourself thus far.

And if anyone wants my actual opinion on the matter, I called in a team of BMXBoard experts into here (including, but not limited to, the one and only LJWunder) to look into the matter with me. After careful examination and analysis of the posts, the timing of the posts, writing styles, grammatical and spelling errors, we have come to believe that Just In Time and FlyBoy are not only the same completely uniformed person, but are, in fact, none other than Standard Bykes' very own Rick Moliterno. Nice try, Mr. Moliterno. I'm still waiting for you to announce the release of Standard's OX-Platinum cranks, which will cost ninety dollars more than they're really worth, just like every other welded Standard product.

No I'm sorry, I wasn't just laughing it off at the start, but I decided that's the best aproach to this because it's stupid to continue to argue about all of this. And I don't know who Mr. Moliterno is, I havn't even heard of him! What are you talking about! My name is Nathaniel, and I don't know why you think that Justin Time and me are the same person. I don't even know who Justin Time is! And I havn't even heard of those cranks you mentioned either! This whole thing is getting really stupid, and I don't want to have anymore to do with this subject.

Queensrider86, I don't know why you called me a fag, but I don't want to continue this insulting defending thing anymore. I don't care if you think I'm a fag because I know I'm not, and that's good enough for me. And I also appologize to anyone in this thread that has gotten insulted, there was no cause for the whole insulting bit that Queensrider86 started. I also want to appologize to you Queensrider86 for the things I said about you and your freinds, there was no need for me to say those things to you. And I forgive you Queensrider86 for insulting me, and I hope that God forgives you too. Goodbye, and thanks to everyone who tried to anwser my original question on this thread.

No I'm sorry, I wasn't just laughing it off at the start, but I decided that's the best aproach to this because it's stupid to continue to argue about all of this. And I don't know who Mr. Moliterno is, I havn't even heard of him! What are you talking about! My name is Nathaniel, and I don't know why you think that Justin Time and me are the same person. I don't even know who Justin Time is! And I havn't even heard of those cranks you mentioned either! This whole thing is getting really stupid, and I don't want to have anymore to do with this subject.

what beerman said was a joke. rick moliterno is the owner of standard bykes,and ox platinum is what standard products are made of.

Queensrider86, I don't know why you called me a fag, but I don't want to continue this insulting defending thing anymore. I don't care if you think I'm a fag because I know I'm not, and that's good enough for me. And I also appologize to anyone in this thread that has gotten insulted, there was no cause for the whole insulting bit that Queensrider86 started. I also want to appologize to you Queensrider86 for the things I said about you and your freinds, there was no need for me to say those things to you. And I forgive you Queensrider86 for insulting me, and I hope that God forgives you too. Goodbye, and thanks to everyone who tried to anwser my original question on this thread.


you're making a big deal about this.nobody has to apologize for ****.you act like you never made fun of somebody.i'm going easy on you. i'm just writing insults. i would love to see you in a ghetto. people wont hesitate to fu(k you up. i can tell just by reading your posts that you are a pus*y

i prefer chromoly, but some alum. cranks can handle almost the same amount of riding.
flyboy just stop, your making us 15 year olds look bad

aluminum is better becuase its lighter and stronger, cromoly is a little bit heavier and not as strong.

aluminum is NOOOOOTT stronger than chromoly

you're making a big deal about this.nobody has to apologize for ****.you act like you never made fun of somebody.i'm going easy on you. i'm just writing insults. i would love to see you in a ghetto. people wont hesitate to fu(k you up. i can tell just by reading your posts that you are a pus*y

Ok, fine.

i prefer chromoly, but some alum. cranks can handle almost the same amount of riding.
flyboy just stop, your making us 15 year olds look bad

Right, I have already stopped. And there's nothing us 15 year olds need to prove to anyone.

aluminum is NOOOOOTT stronger than chromoly

Cromoly has more flex than aluminum, aluminum is more brittle, but there's some very strong cranks on the market made out of aluminum. I still like cromoly though.

Flyboy - Quit while you are behind. You don't need to make individual posts for every single comment - just one post. You can do multiple quotes if you want, but even that you don't need to do. Just say your bit and move on.

A good rule of thumb is that when someone calls you a fag, simply agree and change the subject. It has been established that all bike riders are fags, especially ones who are pompously proud of the city they live in or the websites they run and it doesn't matter if they are married and have kids... they are still fags.

Aluminum is not brittle.. It's not like a rusty cracker or something. The deal is that by definition, steal is stronger than alluminum; but when you're talking about cranks, that really doesent matter. I have profile race cranks, I am a very big guy and have had them for over three years. I broke one cranks arm once, but I sent it back to them and had a new free one in under a week... its garunteed for life, so why get heavier cranks. As long as the cranks are designed well for your purpose it dosent matter steal or aluminum, especially if they're garunteed for life. Differences in flex and all that dont really effect street riding, if thats what your doing, it may play into racing where flex may win you or loose you a race, but not really freestlye riding. Philly, what what.

Aluminum is not brittle.. It's not like a rusty cracker or something. The deal is that by definition, steal is stronger than alluminum; but when you're talking about cranks, that really doesent matter. I have profile race cranks, I am a very big guy and have had them for over three years. I broke one cranks arm once, but I sent it back to them and had a new free one in under a week... its garunteed for life, so why get heavier cranks. As long as the cranks are designed well for your purpose it dosent matter steal or aluminum, especially if they're garunteed for life. Differences in flex and all that dont really effect street riding, if thats what your doing, it may play into racing where flex may win you or loose you a race, but not really freestlye riding. Philly, what what.
Brittleness of metals is all relative. Compared to to 4130, aluminum has much less flex. As a general rule, any metal with less flex, must absorb any abuse directly into the metal itself. Eventually the metal just snaps. This is typically referred to as how brittle the metal is. So, in comparison to 4130, aluminum is brittle. Aluminum actually has a greater strength to weight ratio than 4130, but the flexibility of 4130 makes it a much better material for street riding. The abuse of coming down hard on a big gap, stairs, or landing gone wrong causes incredible stress on cranks. This is where 4130 really shines because the cranks flex an imperceptible amount to act like a shock absorber. It prolongs the life of the cranks.

Steel also has different flavors that make it stronger, but more brittle, or weaker and less brittle. 4140 for example is stronger than 4130, but it is more brittle which makes it less suitable for frame building, but better for axles and perhaps cranks. Frames, forks, and bars really need a tiny bit of flex to survive the rigors of street use.

I rode a GT Show for a little over a year. It was an aluminum frame and I rode it the same as I had any other frame. In one day, the frame developed a crack. By the end of the day, the frame had developed about a dozen more cranks and broke in a completely different area than where the original crack appeared. When aluminum fails, it fails pretty much completely. I wouldn't trust aluminum on street, even if the cranks will last a year or two, when they break, I probably wouldn't have any warning. Chromoly is much more likely to show cracks and give you at least a little warning.

Besides, Profile cranks kick butt.

Flyboy - Quit while you are behind. You don't need to make individual posts for every single comment - just one post. You can do multiple quotes if you want, but even that you don't need to do. Just say your bit and move on.

A good rule of thumb is that when someone calls you a fag, simply agree and change the subject. It has been established that all bike riders are fags, especially ones who are pompously proud of the city they live in or the websites they run and it doesn't matter if they are married and have kids... they are still fags.

Ok, that has to be one of the dumbest rules I have ever heard of, but I see your point because I don't know if this will ever end. Thank you for the pointer on just dropping it.


When aluminum fails, it fails pretty much completely. I wouldn't trust aluminum on street, even if the cranks will last a year or two, when they break, I probably wouldn't have any warning. Chromoly is much more likely to show cracks and give you at least a little warning.


That is right, when aluminum decides to take a 'break' you'll be the one who's taking a break for the next three months. And also BMXTRIX, doesn't cromoly bend before it breaks?


Besides, Profile cranks kick butt.


Yeah, they definetly do! If my new Redline Monster cranks ever break, I'm going straight to Profile! I mean how can you beat that lifetime warranty?!! Oh by the way, I did finally get my Monster cranks in the mail... and they are as cool as a new car interior!! Nothing like a new crankset huh? No, but really, they look awesome and I think they'll definetly last me awhile.

Chromoly doesn't necessarily bend before it breaks. Typically this has to do with areas where 4130 is welded. Welds increase brittleness due to the intense heat/cool down cycle that goes on around the steel at that point. With cranks, it is very unlikely that chromoly cranks will break in the middle of the crank arm. It is much more likely that they will break right at a weld due to brittleness. Cranks not only have welds at both ends, those are also the major stress points for a set of cranks so likelihood of breaking them there increases.

Heat treating and stress relieving can all allieviate brittleness though. Use of 4140 can also help reduce breakage due to increased strength.

Heat treating and stress relieving can all allieviate brittleness though. Use of 4140 can also help reduce breakage due to increased strength.

Oh cool, 'cause my cranks are heat treated!

Cranks not only have welds at both ends, those are also the major stress points for a set of cranks so likelihood of breaking them there increases.

Aluminum cranks aren't welded; they're made from a solid hunk of metal, which is why they're durable. I've seen plenty of people break and bend Profile Race cranks, but I can't say that I've ever heard of a snapped or bent Primo Powerbite. However, the pedal bosses on aluminum cranks invariable suck; if they have a threaded steel insert, it generally ends up threading out, and if they have threads cut into the crankarm, they often end up stripping or crossthreading.

Aluminum cranks aren't welded; they're made from a solid hunk of metal, which is why they're durable. I've seen plenty of people break and bend Profile Race cranks, but I can't say that I've ever heard of a snapped or bent Primo Powerbite. However, the pedal bosses on aluminum cranks invariable suck; if they have a threaded steel insert, it generally ends up threading out, and if they have threads cut into the crankarm, they often end up stripping or crossthreading.

So are Profile cranks bad then? I'm just curious because lots of people here have recomended them. Thanks.

No, they're perfectly fine. Just don't land one-footed out of a roof drop or anything.

No, they're perfectly fine. Just don't land one-footed out of a roof drop or anything.

LOL, I don't think I'll ever do that with any crankset, but thanks. LOL

Cromoly has more flex than aluminum, aluminum is more brittle, but there's some very strong cranks on the market made out of aluminum. I still like cromoly though.



you started this thread asking the question"are chromoly cranks stronger then aluminum?"how would you know that you like chromoly better than aluminum if you never rode either.

you started this thread asking the question"are chromoly cranks stronger then aluminum?"how would you know that you like chromoly better than aluminum if you never rode either.

What the hell is wrong with you?!! You get on my back with every post I make! I now know the anwser to my question 'is cromoly stronger than aluminum' , and I never said that I liked cromoly better than aluminum! Were did I say that I liked cromoly better than aluminum?! Huh, where did I say that?!! I said that I still like cromoly, that does not mean that I like it more than aluminum. I don't know if I like cromoly better than aluminum or not, but if I bought any parts I'd prefer they'd be made of cromoly. And what makes you think I havn't ridden either, how would you know! I have cromoly cranks on my bike right now, I just wanted to know wich was stronger! So before you start off again on your little persecution bit, get you facts straight.

Ok metal is not somthing to argue about. Chromoly is stronger than aluminum. THeir are places where Aluminum is better to use. Likewise for Chromoly. Some people will say they like alum. cranks better. Others crml. What material your cranks are is quite pointless to argue about. If you ride well and your cranks dont bend than you have found your cranks.

i've snapped some powerbites.

What the hell is wrong with you?!! You get on my back with every post I make! I now know the anwser to my question 'is cromoly stronger than aluminum' , and I never said that I liked cromoly better than aluminum! Were did I say that I liked cromoly better than aluminum?! Huh, where did I say that?!! I said that I still like cromoly, that does not mean that I like it more than aluminum. I don't know if I like cromoly better than aluminum or not, but if I bought any parts I'd prefer they'd be made of cromoly. And what makes you think I havn't ridden either, how would you know! I have cromoly cranks on my bike right now, I just wanted to know wich was stronger! So before you start off again on your little persecution bit, get you facts straight.

Jesus f*cking Christ, just stop posting.

i have had both profiles and primo powerbites and they are both strong enough for the masses. Its the design of the cranks that make them strong.
personaly i dont like the profiles because they never stayed tight, once they get lose and you ride home the arms are f**ked, they will never be the same again. the powerbites on the other hand have pinchbolts so there are three bolts holding them tight, its a fit and forget design, never had a problem (my cranks have a steel insert for the pedal thread)


What the hell is wrong with you?!! You get on my back with every post I make! I now know the anwser to my question 'is cromoly stronger than aluminum' , and I never said that I liked cromoly better than aluminum! Were did I say that I liked cromoly better than aluminum?! Huh, where did I say that?!! I said that I still like cromoly, that does not mean that I like it more than aluminum. I don't know if I like cromoly better than aluminum or not, but if I bought any parts I'd prefer they'd be made of cromoly. And what makes you think I havn't ridden either, how would you know! I have cromoly cranks on my bike right now, I just wanted to know wich was stronger! So before you start off again on your little persecution bit, get you facts straight.


Now that sounds like an insult!
You must have lead a very shelterd life, this is humor. Take it on the chin with a smile, give some back and get over it. LIGHTEN UP

Wow, I can't believe I missed this thread the first time.

Pack, I salute you.

Now that sounds like an insult!
You must have lead a very shelterd life, this is humor. Take it on the chin with a smile, give some back and get over it. LIGHTEN UP


well, nobody has replied to this thread for about 2 months, so now flyboy is calling people names

There are probably 50%+ of Primo owners that would disagree with you. I have only known about half a dozen people who have ever owned Powerbites.... every single pair of them failed. 2 broke, the rest had pedal/thread issues. I love Primo tires and seats, but their cranks are VERY dubious for quality and reliability.




I have PRIMO Hollowbites that havent given me and trouble ive had them since Christmas this year and they are only 1 ounce heavier than the Profile cranks that everyone has....but i have never had trouble with them so far.

im not saying that im smarter than you BMXTRIX but i think that the PRIMO cranks are really nice...

well, nobody has replied to this thread for about 2 months, so now flyboy is calling people names



Yeah, I know. Why are all of these peopls repying to a dead thread?! Son-of-a-*****es.....