Manufacturer, Retailer, Survey and Consumer Feedback - Bike Fitting App - Would you buy it?
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I have been practicing and instructing Bicycle Fitting at the top level of the industry in both the USA and the UK. After three years of research and practical experimentation I am convinced that there are ways for a cyclist to use their own body awareness to accurately fit themselves to their own bicycles. I believe that a smart phone app would be a very good vehicle to lead the motivated cyclist to the point of total bicycle/body awareness and fit optimization.
I am working with a Graphic Design Student. This is their final year project. I am helping to collect marketing data to support my belief that people (you) think that a bike fitting app of this nature is an awesome idea....or not. So before we present the idea to people who could make it a reality, we want to know if the world is ready.
It will take you 5 mins to answer ten questions by following the surveymonkey link below.
We are planning to use the info collected to guide what the app includes and who its geared towards. We may also use it in a later business proposal if there is enough interest.
We will be posting the results here for all and any one to see.
Please follow the link below. One click should take you straight to the survey:
Thank you so much for participating, everyone who has seen the outline for this project has been very exited. I hope that we can get it into production.
Once you have completed the survey please leave all comment and feedback in this thread.
11-27-12, 02:16 PM
shoe size? I certainly would be interested in knowing more about your app
thanks for following the forum rules for surveys, we appreciate it.
Having never had a pro fitting, I had to leave that blank. There should be a don't know/not sure option for some of these. I obviously don't think they're of paramount importance or I'd be rushing to get one done. But I can't really answer intelligently as to where they fall on the relative scale. I'd kind of like to get one, but don't want to spend the cash right now. Someday I will. Similarly, I have no idea if I'd buy your app as no one has marketed it to me so I have no basis on which to make the call about relatively likelihood.
11-27-12, 04:07 PM
With regard to "what" I would want such an app to provide, I could only indicate the four majors of saddle height, set back, reach and drop. Unless you know quite a bit more than me, I find it hard to believe that a phone app is going to be able to address the rest of the list of fit issues.
I've been professionally fit on my current road bike and have then compared my measures to several of the online calculators (Zinn, Wrench Science, competitive cyclist). I've also used those calculators to ball park the fit for my wife and one of her friends. In all three cases I would suggest that the two biggest variables were, the quality of the measurements taken and the need to adjust for personal 'issues'. The thing most lacking from those calculators and which I would love to see is a comparison of ones fit to a large database of similiar users (size, experience, performance, expectations) similiar to what can had from Retul as an example. That's where there is value that isn't already address by numerous free calculators.
I find it hard to believe that a phone app would be able to determine that I have a difference between the lengths of my femurs, that the ball of one foot is further from my heel than the other and that between my rocked hips from the femural issue, a curved back as the result of braking it and an arm length discrepency, I have a real challenge running my bars square. Those are the sort of issues that I expect a 'fitter' to help solve.
Thank you so much for filling out the questionnaire and for some great feedback.
unterhausen - Good eyes. Shoesize and Manufacturer/Model is well within the scope of an app. Although I didn't expect many people to tick that box. Actually only 3 out of the first 65 wanted an app to help them with shoesize and model. Its something that could be a very cool app all of its own and here is an example of how technology can help http://shoefitr.com.
Bigfred - Thanks for bringing up a very pertinent point. Namely that Calcularors already exists and are too impersonal to be much more than a starting point.
We are not proposing to make another calculator.
"Unless you know quite a bit more than me, I find it hard to believe that a phone app is going to be able to address the rest of the list of fit issues."
I think your comment quoted above will be our biggest hurdles. Very few people have come across, understand or believe in the effectiveness of carefully directed body awareness techniques. I'm not going to explain them here and now, but believe me when I say I am more exited by the bike fitting potential of these techniques than any technological advancement I have seen to date. One of the benefits of these techniques is that they are entirely based upon the individual in question and are therefore inherently personalized.
I have used them to very effectively analyse and define all the adjustments necessary to set a bike for all the individual fit issues you describe about yourself (and many more). In fact I have been able to achieve a much greater degree of accuracy using these techniques than any other method learned within professional bike fitting.
If this project gets enough interest, I will obviously spend the time describing the techniques proposed.
So If you have any influence, please encourage others to partake in the questionnaire.
Thanks again for the input.
Nice Survey and thanks for following guidelines about surveys!
I've had full Serotta fitting and it was an eye opener for me.
I think an app with plug in values (inseam, shoe size etc.) could work
you might want to take in femur length if you follow up on this.
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