Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Help Shogun Selectra to fixed gear

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cyberpunked
12-22-12, 09:23 PM
Ok someone please help!, i am trying to make my bike a fixed gear, its a shogun selectra, im not sure what year it is but to me it looks like 80s, its Tapered double butted tubing frame, i removed a sprocket from the cranks and replaced with washers to have a single chain ring. I removed the gear shifters and the derailleur and ajusted the chain length with a tool on the freewheel just for the time being and to see how it would look. Im about to buy some fixed/flipflop gear wheelset to throw onto my bike, THIS IS WHERE i could use a little help haha. because i noticed the front wheel bolt thing or axle was smaller in the front than in the back so would i be able to put this on my bike? ----->http://www.cyclingdealusa.com/Fixie-Freewheel-Single-Speed-Wheel-Wheelset-Black-p/zjs100e.htm
My current rims and tires are 26X1.375X1.24 i think
front/back 42/17
i know the one from cyclingdealusa is 16 but im okay with that

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IFPCL
12-22-12, 09:51 PM
Those wheels you linked are 700c, not 26". They won't work regardless of the axle size because they are much larger in diameter than the wheels that frame was built to use.

LesterOfPuppets
12-22-12, 09:53 PM
They'll probably fit tire clearance-wise Most olde MTBs I've had will fit 700x23 no problemo.

Hurdles are rear dropout width, which could be coldset smaller, and brake mounting, which can take a little digging through the olde nutted caliper bins.

EDIT: Just looked at all pics and that ain't no MTB, dunno where MTB idea came from.

EDIT: Oh, 26" wheelset on there. I'm too tired to think. But yeah, frame good to go for 700c clearance-wise.


cyberpunked
12-22-12, 09:54 PM
these are not original wheels, i think it fits 28"

Kayce
12-22-12, 09:55 PM
If you have a buddy with 700 wheels put them on and see if they fit, before buying. No one can tell for sure from a picture.

cyberpunked
12-22-12, 09:58 PM
what data would you need to make an accurate guess?

LesterOfPuppets
12-22-12, 09:59 PM
I've filed out 9mm fork dropouts to fit 10mm axles. Don't touch the top of the dropout AT ALL. I just removed material from the front face of the dropout 'til the wheel popped in there.

cyberpunked
12-22-12, 10:07 PM
fork dropouts still safe if they are are filedown???

LesterOfPuppets
12-22-12, 10:08 PM
Some people say you will die instantly but I've put over a thousand miles on a filed fork.

If you have cool shops in your town you might be able to pick up a fork for $20 or so.

We've got a decent chrome Tange in my shop for $15 ATM.

Bat56
12-22-12, 10:17 PM
what data would you need to make an accurate guess?

Take the pictures with the lights on.

europa
12-22-12, 10:17 PM
I've filed out 9mm fork dropouts to fit 10mm axles. Don't touch the top of the dropout AT ALL. I just removed material from the front face of the dropout 'til the wheel popped in there.

Wot 'e sed - it's no biggie, btdt and still able to post on the internet.:thumb:

cyberpunked
12-22-12, 10:19 PM
how long does it take to file down? what is 10mm and 9mm? my front is 9? and back 10?

LesterOfPuppets
12-22-12, 10:24 PM
I'm just guessing about your axles' diameters since you say front axle is thinner than rear (at least that's how I read what you said in first post). Some olde bikes have even smaller than 9mm axles.

I'd guess about 8 minutes filing per side on the Hi-Ten fork I worked on. Mangaloy fork might take a bit more, but not much.

cyberpunked
12-22-12, 10:29 PM
so mangoloy fork is safe to ride on when its filed? is it worth it to buy the wheels and file it down? or are there 9mm/10mm wheelsets for fixed gear around?

Scrodzilla
12-22-12, 11:25 PM
what data would you need to make an accurate guess?

The results of a Rockwell hardness test on the frame.


Take the pictures with the lights on.

And point at a few more things.

cyberpunked
12-23-12, 12:07 AM
I'm just guessing about your axles' diameters since you say front axle is thinner than rear (at least that's how I read what you said in first post). Some olde bikes have even smaller than 9mm axles.

I'd guess about 8 minutes filing per side on the Hi-Ten fork I worked on. Mangaloy fork might take a bit more, but not much.

would it be worth buying this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fixie-Freewheel-Single-Speed-Wheel-Wheelset-Black-/271069401813?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1cfed2d5
how easy is it to align the chainring/cog for the chain?

is it also possible to, maybe better?, file down the inner/towardhub axle?

europa
12-23-12, 12:23 AM
would it be worth buying this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fixie-Freewheel-Single-Speed-Wheel-Wheelset-Black-/271069401813?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1cfed2d5
how easy is it to align the chainring/cog for the chain?

is it also possible to, maybe better?, file down the inner/towardhub axle?
Point 1 - don't buy Stars rims, they're rubbish
Point 2- Quando hubs are made of cheese, don't buy them
Point 3 - Low spoke counts are bad news on fixed gear rear wheels because you're applying torque in both directions.
Point 4 - Low spoke counts only work with good quality rims and probably hubs as well.

In other words, these wheels are only good if you plan to sit and look at your bike rather than ride it ... only they're ugly so that wouldn't work either.

Not to be completely negative though, you would get a lot of practice replacing spokes and retruing wheels.

cyberpunked
12-23-12, 12:26 AM
what about this http://www.cyclingdealusa.com/Fixie-Bike-Wheels-p/zjs181cnc.htm
??

Bat56
12-23-12, 04:53 AM
Looks like exciting deals on a brilliant and always changing range, all at genuinely amazing prices.

http://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=87_172_173

cyberpunked
12-23-12, 01:10 PM
i want my bike to eventually look like this http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=21141&start=50#p379095
does it look like this guy filed down his fork dropouts??? or maybe front hub has a 9mm axle???
I sent him(X-Infinity) a message/inquiry but i dont know if he will respond. this post was from 2010

Bat56
12-23-12, 01:20 PM
You mean a ghost bike (http://ghostbikes.org/)?

I do not even know how to advise someone about setting up a bike - purchasing, building, stealing, whatever - whose foundation is an idea about what they want it to look like.

cyberpunked
12-23-12, 01:32 PM
You mean a ghost bike (http://ghostbikes.org/)?

I do not even know how to advise someone about setting up a bike - purchasing, building, stealing, whatever - whose foundation is an idea about what they want it to look like.

no just fixed, i dont care about the color, did you see my progress in my pics? look at the top of the post

Scrodzilla
12-23-12, 02:04 PM
Dude, you're making a a big deal out of nothing. Just about all track hubs have a 10mm axle in the rear and a 9mm in the front.

cyberpunked
12-23-12, 04:14 PM
Dude, you're making a a big deal out of nothing. Just about all track hubs have a 10mm axle in the rear and a 9mm in the front.

im buying a FIXED wheelset DOOD!! do any come with 2 different axles???? and if they dont what is the "BEST" option??? file down fork or replace 10mm axle with 9mm axle??? i really dont wanna buy a different hub after i buy a wheelset...get me?

hairnet
12-23-12, 04:26 PM
What he is saying is that most hubs will have a 10mm axle in the rear and a 9mm in front because that is the norm. Your frame follows that standard. Any 1/2 decent road or track wheel will follow that as well.

I dont see 10mm front axles very often and when I have it was with pretty cheap wheels.

Scrodzilla
12-23-12, 04:53 PM
im buying a FIXED wheelset DOOD!! do any come with 2 different axles???? and if they dont what is the "BEST" option??? file down fork or replace 10mm axle with 9mm axle??? i really dont wanna buy a different hub after i buy a wheelset...get me?

Can you not ****ing read?

LesterOfPuppets
12-23-12, 04:55 PM
Can you not ****ing read?

Freeking out is funner than reading

cyberpunked
12-23-12, 05:44 PM
What he is saying is that most hubs will have a 10mm axle in the rear and a 9mm in front because that is the norm. Your frame follows that standard. Any 1/2 decent road or track wheel will follow that as well.

I dont see 10mm front axles very often and when I have it was with pretty cheap wheels.

fine ill use my original hub but its not going to look nice :(

Bat56
12-23-12, 05:59 PM
Fine!

Scrodzilla
12-23-12, 06:02 PM
fine ill use my original hub but its not going to look nice :(

You just had a meltdown and said you were buying a new wheelset, now you're saying you'll use your old ugly hub. Which is it?

cyberpunked
12-23-12, 06:28 PM
You just had a meltdown and said you were buying a new wheelset, now you're saying you'll use your old ugly hub. Which is it?

whatever fits and doesnt cost me $200

sbs z31
12-23-12, 06:36 PM
Just bring your bike into your local bike co-op and have them fit a set of 700c wheelset to see if they'll work with your frame and fork. You could also just use a set of 650c wheelset.

Scrodzilla
12-23-12, 06:41 PM
whatever fits and doesnt cost me $200

See post #19.

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hairnet
12-23-12, 06:48 PM
fine ill use my original hub but its not going to look nice :(

You have a fairly nice frame. If you can save up just over $100 there are some good wheelsets available, like these at Velomine (http://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=87_172_176&products_id=531&zenid=bfv3ffu9jtsqcfiv01eiuucjj7)

cyberpunked
01-21-13, 01:16 PM
Heres the update :D

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tomatsu
01-21-13, 01:43 PM
Are the bars too big for the stem?

cyberpunked
01-21-13, 01:50 PM
they are but they are secured tightly...i will eventually change the stem, probably with a classic cinelli

sleepytor
01-21-13, 02:10 PM
That was a lot of freaking out over nothing.

I wish you didn't paint the frame.

cyberpunked
01-21-13, 02:19 PM
the frame was sanded down in areas before i bought the bike :/.... for $10!!! :D

LesterOfPuppets
01-21-13, 03:04 PM
they are but they are secured tightly...

That's not very nice. Often deforms bars a bit.

Scrodzilla
01-21-13, 03:23 PM
Yikes.

seau grateau
01-21-13, 03:33 PM
Needs foot retention too

solipsist716
01-21-13, 03:37 PM
they are but they are secured tightly

Don't do this.

cyberpunked
01-29-13, 01:37 PM
Found some old toeclips/straps I had lying around and I got a new stem today, for $2...gotta luv craigslist

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seau grateau
01-29-13, 01:42 PM
Good deal. NDS photo though, c'mon son

cyberpunked
01-29-13, 02:29 PM
cell phone...u wanted nikon?

seau grateau
01-29-13, 02:46 PM
NDS = non-drive side. Chain goes on the camera side.

cyberpunked
01-29-13, 02:50 PM
LOL i thought you meant Nintendo DS hahahahahahahaha

seau grateau
01-29-13, 03:49 PM
I didn't even know those could take pictures. Damn, Nintendo, goin' all out these days.

cyberpunked
03-22-13, 03:40 PM
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