Touring - Nashbar for Touring/Everything
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01-02-13, 11:18 AM
I've been reading, reading, reading, and I think I might have found a bike that I want to purchase. I want it to be a light tour bike, but mostly a bike to do commuting, pleasure, and a little trekking from time to time. I'm pretty sure the lack of gears will need to be changed. I would like the opinions from the forum experts....
01-02-13, 01:28 PM
Just to get a little more info to you guys I currently ride a 2011 Revel 2 that I put continental travel contacts, brooks b17, rigid salsa corrected fork, and I just ordered a butterfly bar. I ride a MTB because I live in Arizona, out of town, and the roads can be quit terrible. The reason I thought of getting a cyclocross bike. I just don't know how the 700 wheels will do on the very bumpy, crappy roads I have out here. I use to ride a Giant Rapid but the roads are what motivated me to sell it and pick up the Revel. I need a gearing set up that will spin nice in the flats but can climb serious grades. Arizona has nice flats but the roads climb in a hurry when you get into the foot hills. Thanks for the help!
01-02-13, 01:45 PM
Light bike and loaded tour equipped are polar opposites . so you get to pick a combination somewhere in between.
Gearing is about the range of ratios , being broadly apart 4:1, to 0.6:1, a good range..
like a 44:11 to a 22:34.. pretty much what you can get out of a new MTB drivetrain.
01-02-13, 02:30 PM
This is a better touring/commuter/trail bike: http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_522412_-1___
The bike is heavy enough for touring without being a tank. Tires clearance is marginal at 700x38, 700x35 will fit better. The 30 speed 105 drivetrain will better adapt to touring than the 20 speed drivetrain on the Cyclocross bike.
OdieInAz, Either the CX or the T bike from Nashbar will be fine, but with my nod to the T bike for it's drivetrain, it might come equipped with a rear rack (specs and picture differ) and it costs less.
PS If available in your size: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/tourist.htm?gclid=CNvw9M7dyrQCFUWnPAodwwMAVQ
01-02-13, 03:54 PM
I think some of those Nashbar bicycles go on sale every now and then. Performancebike is said to be owned by the same company as well.
lol, I was just looking around and found a unique touring bike, the GT Wheels4Life Peace Tour Commuter. http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10054_10551_1114703_-1_400306__400306
and this Schwinn Prestige City Bike is stunning... http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10054_10551_1115996_-1_400306__400306
01-02-13, 09:26 PM
I did look at the Nashbar Touring bike but I get into the dirt a lot of the times and felt that the Touring bike wasn't aggressive enough. However, the gearing is where I want it to be. I know I want steel. I do want the option of at least a 700x38 or bigger if I go above my 26" set up. I am spoiled that my 26x2 eats up the road imperfections very nicely. I am thinking that if I go to a 700 it will be way less comfortable than the 26" in any width. I have also considered a 26 LHT frame set. That way I could transfer my Giant Revel components right over to the LHT and have my steel frame, yet keep my single track capability.... I guess I'm not done researching by a long shot.....
01-03-13, 12:42 AM
26 inch wheels are harsher than 700 wheels. Tires are a big difference, so I get that, but you can't really say "in any width"
Of the options you mentions an LHT 26 sounds the best. The Nashbar stuff is OK, and they make some cool things. But there is also, always something wacky. The people who design their touring bikes and cyclo cross bikes, seem not to have the full memo, and may come at it from too much of a cheap MTB perspective.
OdieInAz, Don't expect the touring bike or the CX bike to work well in technical off road sections. The frames are too large, too long and the drop bars don't offer great control in those situations. From non technical single track to groomed unpaved roads they're fine.
I've used my T bike off road with 35 mm tires set to ~65 PSI and it did fairly well, but it can't replace my mountain bike. Coping with tree roots, semi rough trails and small drops (unloaded) have proven to be well within it's capabilities. Touring bikes don't have aggresive geometry as their primary role is to keep a possibly poorly balanced touring load stable, but they're not signifcantly different from the rigid mountain bikes of the late '80s and mid '90s.
Buying a Nashbar or Bikes Direct bike is a good plan, but the buyer needs to be aware that they're built at a very stringent price point. There's some sweat equity required, primarily in tuning the wheelsets and the buyer needs to know how to use a sizing chart for a proper fit. With proper attention to assembly these thrift tourers perform very well.
01-03-13, 09:38 AM
I am thinking that if I go to a 700 it will be way less comfortable than the 26" in any width...
If you think the 700 will be less comfortable than 26 inch, in some circumstances I think you'd be correct. At least when it comes to perception. Years ago I rode to work with a snow-mobile helmet and ski pants in the winter with cheap Canadian Tire mountain bikes and hybrids in the summer. Even with years of experience, for whatever reason, when I was rolling around in very light snow with 700x45 tires, I felt uncomfortable as is I was going to slide at any moment. I know I didn't fall or anything so people can tell me this is purely a matter of perception, maybe I'm the one who thought it might be unstable at any moment. But, I just felt like the bicycle was going to slide one way or another at any moment.
I was thinking myself of going 26 inch. (If you want to have a big laugh, I ordered a WDCycle Elite frame from eBay with almost NO AVAILABLE information on it. If or when I receive it, I want to make measurements on it so people searching Google on it find more adequate info. In any case, it says "recreational geometry" on one pic I saw. A more upright posture is what I want. Anyway, I plan to buy the wheels for it next summer then the suspension forks next winter.)
01-03-13, 06:47 PM
hybridbkrdr (http://www.bikeforums.net/member.php/180838-hybridbkrdr), That is as upright as I have seen. Please let us know how things turn out.
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