Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Fixed instead of Freewheel?

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foxandsticks
01-03-13, 05:31 PM
Dumb question..
Hub is flip/flop, fixed/free, is it possible to mount just a cog on each side (correctly), or will the freewheel side only work with a freewheel?
Thanks
Nagrom_
01-03-13, 05:37 PM
The freewheel side will only work with a freewheel, but the fixed side will work with a freewheel as well as a cog. There isn't lockring threading on the free side.
If you ever buy a wheelset, get if fixed/fixed.
mihlbach
01-03-13, 05:41 PM
You can install a fixed cog on the freewheel side. Its not ideal, but it works. You can thread a bottom bracket lockring on there to help secure the cog, but if you get the cog tight enough its not going to unthread even without a lockring. Don't do this unless you run brakes. I rode a suicide hub for years with no problems.
foxandsticks
01-03-13, 06:00 PM
I'm only running a front brake and I'm not sure I'd want to risk it either way. Thanks!
mihlbach
01-03-13, 06:47 PM
I'm only running a front brake and I'm not sure I'd want to risk it either way. Thanks!
A lot of people (including on this forum) seem to think that running a fixed cog on a freewheel hub will result in certain and instant death, but in practice, its just not that dangerous. The same people do things everyday that are probably a lot more dangerous.
But, I hear you....not worth it if you can avoid it.
foxandsticks
01-03-13, 08:11 PM
I don't like the idea of running a freewheel and only a front brake very much actually, but I'll be using it on the 95% uphill return part of my commute so I'm less worried.
Why are fixed/free hubs even made? Can't a fixed/fixed take a freewheel or fixed cog?
Why are fixed/free hubs even made?
Because in those countries they drive on the wrong side of the road.
Dannihilator
01-03-13, 08:44 PM
I don't like the idea of running a freewheel and only a front brake very much actually, but I'll be using it on the 95% uphill return part of my commute so I'm less worried.
Why are fixed/free hubs even made? Can't a fixed/fixed take a freewheel or fixed cog?
Yeah, but one is not ideal for the other's threading even though it can be done.
The people that generally use a flip flop hub generally will have a rear brake on their bike so it can be flipped and still be able to stop safely.
ThermionicScott
01-04-13, 12:35 AM
Why are fixed/free hubs even made? Can't a fixed/fixed take a freewheel or fixed cog?
The freewheel side might be cheaper to manufacture (even if the end user doesn't see the cost savings). There's also a long tradition of equipping bikes with a fixed side for flatter riding, and a lower-geared freewheel for hillier portions (or when you get tired).
fixedgearworld
01-04-13, 04:24 AM
Hi! It depends on your use...why do you want to use fixed gear? For me, fixed gear is more natural, when you ride in fixed gear you control the bike with your legs (and in some cases with one break) but when you ride in freewheel you control the bike with you breaks...it's really different the feeling...
Scrodzilla
01-04-13, 01:59 PM
Hi! It depends on your use...why do you want to use fixed gear? For me, fixed gear is more natural, when you ride in fixed gear you control the bike with your legs (and in some cases with one break) but when you ride in freewheel you control the bike with you breaks...it's really different the feeling...
Somebody didn't read the actual question the op was asking.
Nagrom_
01-04-13, 02:00 PM
Somebody didn't read the actual question the op was asking.
He has yet to read anything.
Scrodzilla
01-04-13, 02:00 PM
There's also a long tradition of equipping bikes with a fixed side for flatter riding, and a lower-geared freewheel for hillier portions (or when you get tired).
Which can be done on a fixed/fixed hub just as easily.
ThermionicScott
01-04-13, 02:14 PM
Which can be done on a fixed/fixed hub just as easily.
Not disputing that.
Scrodzilla
01-04-13, 02:53 PM
But dude, you can put a freewheel on the fixed side.
Dannihilator
01-04-13, 05:58 PM
Flip flop honestly don't make sense to me, it's just a wasted side when you can put a freewheel on the fixed side. What would be nice is to have a single sided hub where it has the threading on the drive side, but have the non-drive side not flared out which means a wider hub body which would allow for a stronger wheel when built properly.
Scrodzilla
01-04-13, 06:20 PM
Aren't most (if not all) single-sided fixed hubs exactly as you're describing?
Dannihilator
01-04-13, 06:23 PM
May be, mind is a little scrambled up tonight.
Edit, definitely scrambled/punch drunk from a lot of wheel truing.
Not all of them are though, the new american classic hubs are not, still alot of axle showing on those.
Nagrom_
01-04-13, 06:24 PM
I like my hubs free/free.
Scrodzilla
01-04-13, 06:25 PM
http://www.bikers-stuffwholesale.com/catalog/LiveFreeOrDie.jpg
Muffin Man
01-04-13, 06:27 PM
I like mine without any threading. my bike actually rides a bit like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjxg1Y7q8w&feature=player_embedded
hairnet
01-04-13, 06:29 PM
I have had the fortune of seeing one those in person. The rider looked like a complete tooll doing it
But in a cyclocross race you just stand up and run. Win.
Dannihilator
01-04-13, 08:09 PM
But in a cyclocross race you just stand up and run. Win.
More of a lose, not sure if tire burn on the jewels would be worth it.
IthaDan
01-04-13, 09:18 PM
Bragging rights, bro.
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